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orangebird 11-05-2004 13:19

It's official - women are better!!!!!
 
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...088080,00.html


:angel:

Chimaera 11-05-2004 13:24

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There OB - just confirming what we knew all along! :D

Paul 11-05-2004 13:25

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but their clean record is slowly eroding, a Government report has revealed.
:erm:

It doesn't say what percentage of drivers actually are women - it's all very well saying (for instance) that only 17% of speeding offences were women - but if only 10% of all drivers are women then that actually makes them worse.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics ...... :angel:

Nemesis 11-05-2004 13:27

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but their clean record is slowly eroding
better, but not for long :D

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But women's share of speeding offences rose from 13% in 1998 to 17% in 2002.
Speed Freaks

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The category in which women committed the highest number of offences was obstruction
Aint that the truth, and not just on the road :D

orangebird 11-05-2004 13:29

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Originally Posted by Pem
:erm:

It doesn't say what percentage of drivers actually are women - it's all very well saying (for instance) that only 17% of speeding offences were women - but if only 10% of all drivers are women then that actually makes them worse.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics ...... :angel:

How does the percentage of drivers make any difference? It's not about the amount of women drivers total, it's about the percentages of offences that each gender are responsible for..... :shrug:

ian@huth 11-05-2004 13:32

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Originally Posted by Pem
:erm:

It doesn't say what percentage of drivers actually are women - it's all very well saying (for instance) that only 17% of speeding offences were women - but if only 10% of all drivers are women then that actually makes them worse.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics ...... :angel:

It's not just the percentage of drivers that are women but also the number of miles they drive compared to how many men drive.

There is no mention in the statistics of how many backseat women drivers were responsible for male committed offences. :D

Jon M 11-05-2004 13:38

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If we take 100 drivers 90% of which are male and 10% female

The percentage of say 20 offences committed by the whole could be 50/50 .. but that would mean an equal number of each which would therefore work out at 10 women and ten men.. Therefore the other 80 men not included in that are ignored. It therefore would be more realistic in that hypothetical situation to say (roughly)10% of men and 100% of women offended.

I hope thats clear.. because I'm not so great at maths anymore

Pierre 11-05-2004 13:39

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As recently quoted.

" the difference between men and women drivers is: If a woman is going to visit her friend, she doesn't feel the need to have to beat her personal best time to get there."

Chimaera 11-05-2004 13:40

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Tut tut tut!! :rolleyes:
Methinks the males on here are running scared!! :D
And you do get the occasional woman driver who does more that the school run - I drive over 16,000 miles a year! ;)

Defiant 11-05-2004 13:44

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It's official - women are better!!!!!
At parking maybe ;)

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Maggy 11-05-2004 14:07

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OB you should have realised that posting about this on a MALE DOMINATED forum like this would get such responses.

Frankly just leave 'em in ignorance.You and I know how the land lies when it comes to car insurance anyway.It's why the family car is in MY name(he drives my car on sufferance)and thus the insurance is in my name.Cheaper that way.

However when it comes to back seat driving why is it I'm always invited to do the driving in town but on the motorway I get no look in?:D

Incog.

homealone 11-05-2004 14:14

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Originally Posted by Incognitas
However when it comes to back seat driving why is it I'm always invited to do the driving in town but on the motorway I get no look in?

that's interesting, It's pretty much the same in our household, I prefer 'open road' driving & can concentrate for longer, but my wife is a far better driver, than me, round town, as she has more patience:)

Colin 11-05-2004 16:04

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I will put my hand up and say that i am a Crap Driver, I am very nervous on the road. And yes i am Male

Russ 11-05-2004 16:15

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Doesn't change the fact that most women are crap at parking :D

Defiant 11-05-2004 16:22

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Originally Posted by Russ D
Doesn't change the fact that most women are crap at parking :D

How true. I now some will say there are men that park bad and there are but just the amount of women that have problems parking is unreal. Why do hey have to leave the car 20 miles away from the curb :erm:

Bifta 11-05-2004 16:31

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I think women take a lot less risks than men, hense the lower accident figures, but there are a few women I know that are very nervous drivers and are very lucky to not have been in an accident.

iadom 11-05-2004 17:24

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Speaking as a mature;) professional driver, I wonder how those stats would look if the "men" ( I use that term loosely ) aged between 18 & 25 where removed.

Stuart 11-05-2004 19:19

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I personally think it's a case of Swings and Roundabouts.

The worst drivers I know are women, and so are the best..

punky 12-05-2004 02:38

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That report isn't as detailed as the one the was in the Evening Standard earlier (see here). Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that good driving comes down to high speed.

In my opinion: People think drivers are good because they can drive slowly, when it is fact the complete opposite. Men are normally better drivers because they can drive faster (much faster normally) in the same area that women can drive. For example, it takes virtualy no skill to drive at 15mph, but if you can drive 60 in a 30, without killing yourself or anyone else, you must be a pretty good driver. This is why Schumacher is one of the world's best drivers. He can cope with driving 200mph around a track. If he drove at 30mph around it, I doubt people would have as much respect for him, except for women maybe. My dad who was an driver for an IRV for the Met Police is a brilliant driver, because he could drive at speeds I simply couldn't.

Also, it acknowledged that men drive on average over 6500 miles and for women it is just under 3000. Therefore, you have to normalise the figures to get a fair comparison. You have to halve the male figures straight away - Men will get caught speeding more (and have more accidents) if they drive twice as much. We still have a worse record, but not anywhere near as much as we did before.

Oh, also, it seems like women seem to hit inanimate objects, and objects in a carpark a lot. When you halve the men's figures (or double the women's) it looks even worse. How on earth you can have an accident at 5mph or drive into a post is beyond me. Sorry ladies. :)

Sorry [/rant]

xaq141175 12-05-2004 07:47

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http://www.inet-link.com/downloads/hose.jpg

ok, now i've stoked the fire a little bit i can get to my opinion :PP:

I don't think it really has anything to do with gender itself, but rather the cultures that we live in due to them, which are different due to us segregating ourselves.

As woman become more masculine and men more feminin, our abilitys will also homogenise.

abailey152 12-05-2004 10:44

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Originally Posted by Defiant

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Defiant 12-05-2004 10:58

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Originally Posted by xaq141175
As woman become more masculine and men more feminin, our abilitys will also homogenise.

Speak for yourself there :erm:

No being serous now I've got to say there are far too many women drivers I've seen who look scared while driving. They hold the wheel like the world is going to blow up if they slacken there grip. They just need to chill more. They will be able to judge the space around them more for packing problems and just better driving in general.

parking mostly though :D

http://picture.funnyjunk.com/pics/suckyfemaledriver.jpg

punky 12-05-2004 12:03

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The funniest one i've ever seen is where the parking space is huge, like in a V shape with lights, and skid marks going everywhere. Can't for the life of me find it though.

Edit: Not the one I was trying to find, but a classic nonetheless. Sorry Debsy :)

http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Eracer-1/Hum...s/image002.jpg


Gotta love being a chauvanist pig :D :)

Marge 12-05-2004 12:13

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How rude of you chaps :nono: parking is my forte and I'm a good driver overall. I get a discount on my car insurance for being a lady driver :D. However I am a crap passenger as Xaccers found out to his cost :erm:

Maggy 12-05-2004 16:52

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You know this attitude really ticks me off.

My husband WON'T turn right at junctions.He'd rather keep going left in the hope that he can eventually get to where he wants without ever crossing traffic!!!Also the only reason he won't drive in town(he'd rather catch the bus-and has done so frequently) is because he hates parking.It's the only reason I get to drive in town or up to the DIY.HE CAN'T PARK!!!!!

Chimaera 12-05-2004 17:38

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Yep I have done a Park and Reverse lesson with the Institute of Advenced Motorists and at the end only one participant had scored the maximum 12/12 - ME!!!!!!! And I was the only woman out of 10 taking the lesson. Even now I have to park in a straight line with the wheels perfectly straight - I don't want some bloke walking past thinking 'I bet a woman parked that!' :D

punky 12-05-2004 21:31

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Originally Posted by Incognitas
You know this attitude really ticks me off.

I'm sorry I upset you, but I only thought it was a bit of harmless fun. They say men won't ask for directions, can't read maps and are terminally lost. I know that doesn't apply to me, but i'll still laugh along with it. Ditto with farting and belching national anthems etc.

When you stereotype there'll always be exceptions, but you can't really have a joke without it.

Chimaera: Good job passing the test. I've often thought about going for the IAM test myself. But i'd never live it down if I failed, especially as my dad passed.

swoop101 12-05-2004 21:49

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I must admit to being impressed by some of the women drivers around here, They can put on make-up, talk on the phone, chat to the kids, do their hair, eat their breakfast and still manage to speed past the local primary school all at the same time.
But if you say anything about it they tell you to **** off because they are quite safe. :disturbd: :disturbd: :disturbd:

kronas 12-05-2004 21:50

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come on guys lay off the women!!!!!

*gets overprotective :mad:

Defiant 12-05-2004 21:53

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Originally Posted by kronas
come on guys lay off the women!!!!!

*gets overprotective :mad:

I think you should watch the cars in the he morning more. Whether it be men or women and then come back and say something

kronas 12-05-2004 21:54

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Originally Posted by Defiant
I think you should watch the cars in the he morning more. Whether it be men or women and then come back and say something


i have.........

the men speed........

the women drive carefully!

ZrByte 12-05-2004 21:55

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Originally Posted by kronas
come on guys lay off the women!!!!!

*gets overprotective :mad:

They started it :pp and since they always seem to enjoy pointing out how immature we are aswel I think we should carry on this immature behaviour :D

BTW someone owes me a new keyboard for that pic with the petrol pump as i have just spat half a glass or orange juice over my keyboard laughing at it :eek:

ZrByte 12-05-2004 21:58

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Originally Posted by kronas
i have.........

the men speed........

the women drive carefully!

Yes and if watch closeley women speed and men drive carefully aswel.
I have had three seriously close calls on my bike with stupid drivers 2 where taxis (Doesnt seem to matter what gender a taxi driver is since the driver owns the road :rolleyes: though I do admit they where men) and 1 women driver (In a 4x4 of all things, why do tiny people insist on driving off-road cars, esp women I have noticed)

Defiant 12-05-2004 21:59

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Originally Posted by Chimaera
Even now I have to park in a straight line with the wheels perfectly straight - I don't want some bloke walking past thinking 'I bet a woman parked that!' :D

But doe's that not tell you something. Why do you think so many men say these things in the first place. I'll tell you its because thats what we see. I'm not having a joke here I have laughed out loud of some of the parking I've seen. Some really have been in the middle of the road and its not just unsafe its stupid. How in the hell after all do you get a licence if you can't park a car :erm:

Maggy 12-05-2004 22:11

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Originally Posted by ZrByte
They started it :pp and since they always seem to enjoy pointing out how immature we are aswel I think we should carry on this immature behaviour :D

BTW someone owes me a new keyboard for that pic with the petrol pump as i have just spat half a glass or orange juice over my keyboard laughing at it :eek:

Who started it?OB just posted a link to a news story and all the males instantly poo,poohed the idea and came out with the usual stereotypical rubbish.Especially Defiant!!! :pp
I have not given out any stereotyping at all.I've been telling the truth about MY husband,whom I may add is the worst backseat driver in the world.I at least keep my mouth shut when he is driving. ;) I just close my eyes instead. :D

Chimaera 12-05-2004 22:17

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Well ladies just pick yourself a lovely man who can't drive! :D
Problem solved! ;)

kronas 12-05-2004 22:18

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Originally Posted by Chimaera
Well ladies just pick yourself a lovely man who can't drive! :D
Problem solved! ;)

*points at himself

:pp

right then ladies......... :D

ZrByte 12-05-2004 22:21

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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Who started it?OB just posted a link to a news story and all the males instantly poo,poohed the idea and came out with the usual stereotypical rubbish.Especially Defiant!!! :pp
I have not given out any stereotyping at all.I've been telling the truth about MY husband,whom I may add is the worst backseat driver in the world.I at least keep my mouth shut when he is driving. ;) I just close my eyes instead. :D

Ahem!
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...29&postcount=2
Post #2 in this thread
if thats not throwing petrol on a fire I dont know what IS :D

Paul K 12-05-2004 22:28

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Originally Posted by Chimaera
Well ladies just pick yourself a lovely man who can't drive! :D
Problem solved! ;)

Or someone smart enough to keep his mouth shut ;) After years of biting my tongue in spite of my fathers driving I can vouch for Elaine's prowess behind the wheel :D As can Stu Castle LOL

Chimaera 12-05-2004 22:49

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Originally Posted by ZrByte
Ahem!
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...29&postcount=2
Post #2 in this thread
if thats not throwing petrol on a fire I dont know what IS :D

ME????
Well speaking personally all I can say is I have driven 3 forum members at various times - one more than the others - and they have not complained at all?
(Mind you that could have been blind terror silencing them I suppose!) :D

Maggy 12-05-2004 22:53

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Originally Posted by ZrByte
Ahem!
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...29&postcount=2
Post #2 in this thread
if thats not throwing petrol on a fire I dont know what IS :D

:D ONE COMMENT??? :D I noticed that the men changed their tune about women being bad drivers to being poor at parking pretty damn quick too.Possibly because they can't argue with insurance companies that reward women drivers with lower premiums. ;)

Incog.Anyway you keep your myths and legends if it makes you feel better. :tu:

punky 12-05-2004 23:09

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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Possibly because they can't argue with insurance companies that reward women drivers with lower premiums. ;)

Incog.Anyway you keep your myths and legends if it makes you feel better. :tu:

I shouldn't rise to the bait, but I will. The reason women get lower insurance premiums has nothing to do with how good their driving is.

Premiums are set on previous statistics. Let's have a look shall we... Firstly, women drive less. According to that article, it is under half as much. Anyone who drives less is liable to have less accidents, so lower premiums. Secondly, women tend to go for small, older cars. When they do have an accident, when an F reg Fiesta hits another car, it is going to be much cheaper to settle the claim, than a bloke who has a new 3 series BMW (no accounting for taste though :))

You can't say women get lower insurance premiums because they are better drivers. Like I said, surely the faster someone can travel without hitting something, the better the driver they are. That's how Schmacher is bloody good driver, as opposed to a terrible one. Driving at 5mph, in my mind takes no skill. Now bear in mind, if you look at the statistics from that Evening Standard article, women are more liable to hit things in car parks, even without normalised figures.

And thirdly, it's just one of those things - it affects men so noone cares. If women or black people were automatically surcharged on their insurance, there would of been outrage years ago. If I had the time, i'd love to try and fight this blatant sex discrimination. You can choose a powerful, or slow car, or live in a high/low risk area, but I have no choice in my gender. It shouldn't ever come into the policy.

Stuart 13-05-2004 09:46

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Originally Posted by Paul
Or someone smart enough to keep his mouth shut ;) After years of biting my tongue in spite of my fathers driving I can vouch for Elaine's prowess behind the wheel :D As can Stu Castle LOL

Yep! I can!. Although we did get a bit lost a couple of times, although that's due to my lack of skill as a navigator..


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