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downquark1 01-05-2004 19:31

New Sex Laws
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3675057.stm

I wonder if this will be a thread we can all agree on? :rolleyes:

Russ 01-05-2004 19:32

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Personally I can't wait for Graham to turn up :D

Alanmelon 01-05-2004 19:37

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Quote:

anti-child sex abuse
What's an anti-child, is it like the anti-christ?

Damien 01-05-2004 19:38

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someone called?

Russ 01-05-2004 19:40

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Originally Posted by Alanmelon
What's an anti-child, is it like the anti-christ?

Oh noooo....you'll know when he hits town :D

Actually, no you won't... :erm:

Back on topic....although I agree in principle with some of these laws, they'll be a nightmare to police.

Paul 01-05-2004 19:44

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Updating incest offences to cover not just blood relatives but also foster and adoptive parents and live-in partners.
Does this mean that someone dating a mother and her daughter will be classed breaking the law (incest) :erm:

zendawn 01-05-2004 19:48

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Yay! Men can B**g** each other without fear of prosecution.

Under the act, men who have previously been convicted of b**g**y and indecency between men with a consensual partner aged over 16, will have their names removed from the sex offenders' register.

I didnt know you'd be convicted as a sex offender if you got caught before.

:Yikes:

Russ 01-05-2004 19:50

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Originally Posted by zendawn
Yay! Men can B**g** each other without fear of prosecution.

I thought they could anyway?

Damien 01-05-2004 19:55

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I think it was illegal in public...so what have they made legal :O

Damien 01-05-2004 19:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pem
Does this mean that someone dating a mother and her daughter will be classed breaking the law (incest) :erm:

oh crap

zendawn 01-05-2004 19:59

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A new offence to protect the public from unacceptable sexual acts in public toilets.
Bestiality and necrophilia become specific offences for the first time.
Now they are just trying to spoil our fun.
No more gerbils for me, eh Russ? :D

Russ 01-05-2004 20:01

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Originally Posted by Damien
I think it was illegal in public

As were all sexual acts, were they not?

And necrophillia is illegal? I always found that to be dead boring. And incest? Relatively boring ;) :D

zendawn 01-05-2004 20:03

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Originally Posted by Russ D
I thought they could anyway?

I think it was a case of 'out of sight, out of mind'.
But if caught (normally by someone telling the police) or the police decided to take offense (as it often depended on what mood the police were in) they would prosecute.

Maggy 01-05-2004 20:08

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See the last few postings prove how confusing this whole area has been for a while now.

Sadly however it won't stop those who will continue to find a way to work around these updated laws.

Damien 01-05-2004 20:09

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Originally Posted by Russ D
As were all sexual acts, were they not?

And necrophillia is illegal? I always found that to be dead boring. And incest? Relatively boring ;) :D

ALL SEXUAL ACTS ARE?

oh crap

I mean woohoo.....i have to leave now on a totally unrelated topic to o with a monkey :monkey:

Damien 01-05-2004 20:11

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Originally Posted by Incognitas
See the last few postings prove how confusing this whole area has been for a while now.

Sadly however it won't stop those who will continue to find a way to work around these updated laws.

yeah, for example they say so sexual acts inside a public toilet but not inside a public company tolet woohoo! loophole

punky 01-05-2004 20:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
As were all sexual acts, were they not?

And necrophillia is illegal? I always found that to be dead boring. And incest? Relatively boring ;) :D

lol :)

Maggy 01-05-2004 20:14

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Originally Posted by Damien
yeah, for example they say so sexual acts inside a public toilet but not inside a public company tolet woohoo! loophole

More info than I needed!! :shocked:

Actually
I was thinking more about the updated lawsa on grooming and consentual sex.

Incog

zendawn 01-05-2004 20:17

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Necrophillia!

Will it make a difference if the person gives permission for someone to have sex with their body when they die??
Or is it just the act itself???

Damien 01-05-2004 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
More info than I needed!! :shocked:

Actually
I was thinking more about the updated lawsa on grooming and consentual sex.

Incog

I agree

Damien 01-05-2004 20:19

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Originally Posted by zendawn
Necrophillia!

Will it make a difference if the person gives permission for someone to have sex with their body when they die??
Or is it just the act itself???

It cant be that common though, I mean where do they get the body? and what of sick idiot would give permission

zendawn 01-05-2004 20:23

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Originally Posted by Damien
It cant be that common though, I mean where do they get the body? and what of sick idiot would give permission

Perhaps people could carry a 'necrophillia donor card'

In the event of my death, I give permission for my body
to be use for sexual acts.

Signed .............

Damien 01-05-2004 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zendawn
Perhaps people could carry a 'necrophillia donor card'

In the event of my death, I give permission for my body
to be use for sexual acts.

Signed .............

I cant decide if thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard

I mean I have watched the marks and spencer ads

Russ 01-05-2004 20:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zendawn
Necrophillia!

Will it make a difference if the person gives permission for someone to have sex with their body when they die??
Or is it just the act itself???

Why on earth would you ask?

On second thoughts, don't answer that.....

homealone 01-05-2004 20:28

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Originally Posted by Damien
I cant decide if thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard

I think it was meant to be humorous, well it made me laugh :)

Damien 01-05-2004 20:29

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Why do topics to do with necrophillia and sex in public places always fill up quickly :)

sir_drinks_alot 01-05-2004 20:33

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ah no matter how many new laws you pass there will always be loophole's
for People to go Through ;)

Maggy 01-05-2004 20:34

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Originally Posted by Damien
Why do topics to do with necrophillia and sex in public places always fill up quickly :)

Well it fills up with those who just have to joke about it even when it is about a serious issue.We are still at the Carry on stage when it comes to discussing sex issues. :rolleyes:

Incog.

Damien 01-05-2004 20:34

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Dirty joke alert

Graham 01-05-2004 20:36

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Originally Posted by downquark1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3675057.stm

I wonder if this will be a thread we can all agree on? :rolleyes:

I doubt it.

Under the new act it redefines "an indecent picture of a child" as being one of anyone under *eighteen* instead of sixteen as previously, so an eighteen year old looking at a picture of a 17 year old could be classed as a paedophile, even though they can engage in consensual sex with them!

It also effectively criminalises all sexual activity with an under sixteen year old, whether it is consenting or not, and thus makes it a *criminal offence* for two under sixteen year olds to even *kiss* in public although it notes that, provided they both appear to be enjoying it, it's unlikely action will be taken!! (I can see the headlines now "14 and 15 year olds arrested for playing 'kiss chase'!")

As regards recent threads on prostitution, the government claims they are trying to protect victims by introducing new offences covering "commercial sexual exploitation" and targetting pimps and others who force children and adults into prostitution, which is all well and good, however it also adds extra penalties for running a brothel regardless of whether those employed there are consenting or not.

Finally this reform *still* does nothing to clarify or rectify the contradictions in the laws or interpretations of the laws regarding BDSM and related activities (preferably by eliminating them altogether where consenting adults are concerned) which is most certainly a missed opportunity :(

So, my initial reaction is 6/10, could do better...

(PS sorry for being boring by talking about the issues, rather than making weak jokes...!)

Damien 01-05-2004 20:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
Well it fills up with those who just have to joke about it even when it is about a serious issue.We are still at the Carry on stage when it comes to discussing sex issues. :rolleyes:

Incog.

Yeah but the serious issues have been discussed to death, all of us will agree on them

So we will joke about the rest of them

Graham 01-05-2004 20:38

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Originally Posted by zendawn
Now they are just trying to spoil our fun.
No more gerbils for me, eh Russ? :D

Err, not quite, it means that you'll risk getting a fine or six months in jail instead of a mandatory life sentence!

Obviously this government didn't have the bottle to do what the Danish government did in the '70s and put it under "cruelty to animals" legislation instead (ie if you weren't hurting the animal, there was no offence!)

Maggy 01-05-2004 20:40

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Originally Posted by Damien
Yeah but the serious issues have been discussed to death, all of us will agree on them

So we will joke about the rest of them

Then bow out and go back to one of the threads like this http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=7174

Maggy 01-05-2004 20:45

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Fine I'll leave then before I'm rude to you.Carry on being puerile.

zendawn 01-05-2004 20:50

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Originally Posted by Graham
Err, not quite, it means that you'll risk getting a fine or six months in jail instead of a mandatory life sentence!

Obviously this government didn't have the bottle to do what the Danish government did in the '70s and put it under "cruelty to animals" legislation instead (ie if you weren't hurting the animal, there was no offence!)

EH?? Did beastiality(sP?) mean you got a life sentence before??
I didnt know that??
I find it funny (not funny haha mind) that we kill animals to eat but can't have sex with them. After all a mouths, amouth. (funny haha)

Graham 01-05-2004 20:55

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Originally Posted by zendawn
EH?? Did beastiality(sP?) mean you got a life sentence before??

Yep, it was classed under acts of "gross indecency" (the same ones that used to include homosexuality IIRC)

zendawn 01-05-2004 20:58

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Originally Posted by Graham
Yep, it was classed under acts of "gross indecency" (the same ones that used to include homosexuality IIRC)

I assume the implication was that 'having sex with animals is just as bad as having sex with the same gender'??

I'm so glad I wasnt born any earlier than I was. altho I still think Im a head of my time on issues like this.

downquark1 01-05-2004 21:39

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Originally Posted by Graham
I doubt it.

well, we're getting closer;)

Book cover, Proof of pudding yada yada yada. We'll see what things we see in the next few years. Perhaps the 'kiss chase' law will be 'ignored' like the homosexual one was, unless of course the situation genuinely merits it.

zendawn 01-05-2004 22:03

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On the subject of 'sex in public toilets' i'm always reminded of what George Michael said when he was caught in the LA toilets.
I paraphrase 'If it was a beautiful woman offering to have sex, I doubt most men would refuse.'

danielf 01-05-2004 23:14

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Originally Posted by zendawn
I assume the implication was that 'having sex with animals is just as bad as having sex with the same gender'??

The phrase 'all men are animals' comes to mind :erm: ;)

Julian 01-05-2004 23:24

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Originally Posted by danielf
The phrase 'all men are animals' comes to mind :erm: ;)

Very true m8....

And today Matthew I am going to be a rabbit. :D

Russ 01-05-2004 23:32

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Originally Posted by Julian
And today Matthew I am going to be a rabbit.

Spose that's better than

Quote:

today Matthew I am going to do a rabbit

Graham 02-05-2004 00:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian
And today Matthew I am going to be a rabbit. :D

Hmm, "Bonks like a bunny"...! :D

MovedGoalPosts 02-05-2004 00:51

Re: New Sex Laws
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pem
Does this mean that someone dating a mother and her daughter will be classed breaking the law (incest) :erm:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
oh crap


Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
And necrophillia is illegal? I always found that to be dead boring. And incest? Relatively boring ;) :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zendawn
Will it make a difference if the person gives permission for someone to have sex with their body when they die??

In the event of my death, I give permission for my body
to be use for sexual acts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian
And today Matthew I am going to be a rabbit. :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham
Hmm, "Bonks like a bunny"...! :D


I dont think this forum needs moderators and admins, It needs good councillors and therapists :eeek::disturbd: :confused: :D

Paul 02-05-2004 01:05

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Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts
I dont think this forum needs moderators and admins, I needs good councillors and therapists :eeek::disturbd: :confused: :D

I wonder if that was a mistake or an admission .... ;)

MovedGoalPosts 02-05-2004 01:10

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Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts
I dont think this forum needs moderators and admins, I needs good councillors and therapists :eeek::disturbd: :confused: :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pem
I wonder if that was a mistake or an admission .... ;)


:o I edited that post once to deal with the fypos, but having had a :beer: or four and thus I am a little :drunk: I find myself :dig: :blush:

*edit changed it to read what it should have done :dunce:

Xaccers 02-05-2004 02:04

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at least we can still shag in our backgardens right?

Are orgies now alowed?
What about men and women together at Ann Somers parties?

Damien 02-05-2004 08:47

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LOL

I love this forum

or is that illegal now? oh well off to jail for me....


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