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Matth 29-04-2004 12:49

Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Unmetered dialup up from £10.00 to £12.49 (up 25%)
- alright, it's still not bad for an unmetered that doesn't have a "LITE" amount of hours

The real whammy for light to medium dialup users, is the LOSS of the 1p/min anytime tariff.

Weekends = 1p/min (unchanged)
Evenings = 2p/min (up 100%)
Weekdays = 3p/min (up 200%)

And no speed increase either!

Chris 29-04-2004 12:55

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Looks like they're not really interested in dial-up any more. They'll screw every penny they can out of those who won't upgrade to Broadband, while hoping that you will eventually want to jump ship and get a cable modem.

Have you thought about making the switch? You'll wonder how you ever coped with 56k ...

zoombini 29-04-2004 15:42

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
I'm not following this, are you saying that there is no longer a 56K dialup service that I only pay for by a penny a minute through my phone bill. ??

I just signed up for something "dialuppy", in the hope of being able to keep my NTL email account names when I leave BB.

quadplay 29-04-2004 15:45

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
It's still PAYG, but will be at the standard 3-2-1 tariff instead of flat-rate 1p/min.

SMHarman 29-04-2004 18:15

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zoombini
I'm not following this, are you saying that there is no longer a 56K dialup service that I only pay for by a penny a minute through my phone bill. ??

I just signed up for something "dialuppy", in the hope of being able to keep my NTL email account names when I leave BB.

Even if your on dialuppy connection, you will still be able to pick up your NTL mail accounts over a new Broadband connection, just your send address will need to change from sptp.ntlworld.com to smtp.newbroadbandprovider.com

zendawn 29-04-2004 18:23

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
I've just got the new pricing list and was disgusted to see the price rise for dialup but didnt realise that PAYG was goinig up too.
It's the same thing they did with TV Internet, upping the price for no reason, in the hope of getting people on to another platform.
How can they justify an increase when other ISP are lowering their prices?
The least they could do it take of the 2hr limit.

Matth 29-04-2004 20:33

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
The worst thing, is if you aren't sharp, (though you SHOULD read the glossy), the first you'll know about the PAYG increase is when your next bill arrives.

Can you use www.211surf.net on an NTL line? - do you get the same 2/1/1 rate?
It's an 0844 09 number.

What rate do NTL charge 0845 at - I believe the evening rate went down on BT

Maggy 29-04-2004 20:38

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
You cannot use a cable phone for any of the cheap dialup services that REQUIRE a BT line.AOL is the only ISP apart from NTL that I was able to use in the end with a cable phone.

homealone 29-04-2004 21:35

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Even if your on dialuppy connection, you will still be able to pick up your NTL mail accounts over a new Broadband connection, just your send address will need to change from sptp.ntlworld.com to smtp.newbroadbandprovider.com

absolutely - zoombini doesn't have to worry, I still have a 'pay per minute' account, I never use it, but I can still use the e-mail address to receive mail, as you say I can use another account to send. Interestingly the webspace for this account also works.;)

Marge 29-04-2004 22:42

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
absolutely - zoombini doesn't have to worry, I still have a 'pay per minute' account, I never use it, but I can still use the e-mail address to receive mail, as you say I can use another account to send. Interestingly the webspace for this account also works.;)

Just to make you aware they are looking to cancel payg accounts that aren't being used, can't remember the exact criteria of what defines a "used" account. It's either the email address being used or the account actually being used to physically dialup.

Maggy 29-04-2004 22:54

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Debsy42
Just to make you aware they are looking to cancel payg accounts that aren't being used, can't remember the exact criteria of what defines a "used" account. It's either the email address being used or the account actually being used to physically dialup.

You positive about that Debsy?Can you find out for definite?I'm keeping mine going by accessing through BB and using the webmail from time to time.Haven't had to use dial up for a few months.As my PAYG account is my spam & online ordering addy I'd hate to lose it.

Incog.

ian@huth 29-04-2004 23:30

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
They will probably do the same as Freeserve, sorry, Wanadoo, and make you dial up every 90 days or so.

danielf 29-04-2004 23:40

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth
And no speed increase either!

Even if they wanted, they can't increase the speed as it is determined by your dial-up modem (56k)

homealone 30-04-2004 08:11

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Debsy42
Just to make you aware they are looking to cancel payg accounts that aren't being used, can't remember the exact criteria of what defines a "used" account. It's either the email address being used or the account actually being used to physically dialup.

ooh - missed that last night, thanks Debs - like Incog said, any more info you have on this would be welcome :)

zoombini 30-04-2004 08:21

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Not arf!

Go Debsy go...

Derek 30-04-2004 08:36

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
I think it was if it wasn't accessed via dialup at least once every 60 days it would be cancelled.

It's in the T&C of the dialup right now if I remember correctly but isn't currently enforced.

Paul 30-04-2004 09:11

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Debsy42
Just to make you aware they are looking to cancel payg accounts that aren't being used, can't remember the exact criteria of what defines a "used" account. It's either the email address being used or the account actually being used to physically dialup.

It had better be the "e-mail being used" that is checked.

My NTL e-mail is linked to a PAYG account. I started my "NTL life" on the free dial-up service and then moved onto BB. When the free dial-up stopped I was advised to convert it to a PAYG account in order to retain my e-mail address(es). I have never dialled into it.

GazzaB 30-04-2004 09:15

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Hi Pem,
I'm in the Nottingham office if you want I can move your dialup e-mail address over to your b/band account if you have any concerns and don't use the dialup account? :angel:

Paul 30-04-2004 09:16

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GazzaB
Hi Pem,
I'm in the Nottingham office if you want I can move your dialup e-mail address over to your b/band account if you have any concerns and don't use the dialup account? :angel:

Sounds good to me - Thanks - PM me what details you need. :)

Derek 30-04-2004 11:16

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
I've just checked and currently the T&C state.

Accounts will be terminated automatically if not accessed through the designated dialup number for a continuous period of 6 months.

If you want to switch dialup E-Mail accounts to broadband you can call tech support who will be able to do this for you.

Chris 30-04-2004 11:48

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Brilliant, a change they haven't bothered to tell us about. When ntl abandoned the free dial-up service they specifically encouraged people who had gone on to Broadband to sign up for the pay-as-you-go dialup service to use as a back-up and in order to retain their email addresses. I still get incoming mail to the two addys I set up in my dial-up days. I have never used any of the mailbox allocation I received when switching to Broadband. Am I now to understand that those two mailboxes are liable to be deleted at any time, because I have never needed to dial up since going BB? :Yikes:

Derek 30-04-2004 12:53

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Well if the accounts are deleted you can move the e-mail addresses over to your broadband account by calling tech support.

zoombini 30-04-2004 13:09

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Yeah but I want to keep my email addresses when I'm not with NTl because I'm a lazy sod & dont want to be bothered with going through my address book & mailing change of addresses... :D

Chris 30-04-2004 13:27

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
:pp
Quote:

Originally Posted by zoombini
Yeah but I want to keep my email addresses when I'm not with NTl because I'm a lazy sod & dont want to be bothered with going through my address book & mailing change of addresses... :D

You want to rely on ntlworld email? :shocked: ;):pp

Maggy 30-04-2004 15:09

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Debsy pm'd me last night about this saying she would check on this today.I'm assuming she is still at work. :)

Incog.

Graham M 30-04-2004 15:18

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
Even if they wanted, they can't increase the speed as it is determined by your dial-up modem (56k)


LoL Increase the speed of dialup... :dunce:

zendawn 30-04-2004 16:37

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph
LoL Increase the speed of dialup... :dunce:

LOL :) they may not be able to increase the speed but it would be nice if they upped the cutoff limit to 4hrs or higher.

zoombini 30-04-2004 16:40

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Yes but it would be increased for free :D

Maggy 30-04-2004 19:56

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Anyone seen Debsy today?

Incog.

Matth 30-04-2004 23:49

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
My dialup and BB Emails are very close, and to be honest, I've forgetten which was which.

I was being sarky about the speed increase, but if they put V92 on, it might increase throughput ... V92's compression iis apparently better than V90 - or you could go for scamware like OnSpeed - crucify the image quality for a bit of extra speed.

Marge 01-05-2004 01:11

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
Anyone seen Debsy today?

Incog.

Sorry went out from work so not long since been in, have pm'd you

zendawn 01-05-2004 01:32

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
So does anyone know how NTL justify the 25%(hope thats right) increase in the price of dialup?
Other than trying to force people onto BB.

Derek 01-05-2004 07:47

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Because it is still cheaper than almost (all?) other unlimited dialup packages?

Mick The Gwailo 22-05-2004 22:37

Re: Dialup internet, the forgotten price rise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzo
Because it is still cheaper than almost (all?) other unlimited dialup packages?

...and FASTER than ..... :)

AND hasn't gone up for a fair while ....

/Sorry, I'm beginning to sound like an NTL 'Fan' ;p ... I'll stop now :D


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