Amd 64
 

Wish me luck, going to get one later today if novatech have it in stock

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Good luck. I may get one of those myself when they start making software to support it ;)

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They already do, you're running it now :pp

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Good luck :) can I have your old stuff?? :D no?? well was worth a try wasnt it :D

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I'm sure you already know, but don't forget you need a Athlon 64 motherboard to match.

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No I'm running Windows XP. The 32bit version. Most software,app & games are 32bit.

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Yup, socket 754 isn't it?
Off to novatech in a tick to see what they have in stock.


Sorry ZrByte, but my Athlon 1800+ is going to a nice new home with a sexy lady I know up in Newcastle.

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It is.

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Exactly, which supports the AMD64 :pp

I know I know, you mean its 64bit powers :D

Well I've only got an Athlon 1800+ so it's in need of updating anyway, and the AMD64 is up there if not supasing the P4s running 32bit apps plus the advantage of 64bit when microsoft finally stabalise XP64 and it hits the P2P networks (did I say P2P networks? I meant the shops ;) )

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Yes there's a 32bit Xp and a 64bit version too so of course the 64bit version would be better for that in order to get the full benefit. Problem then is I think it will be a longtime before you start getting the benefit from other stuff

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im not so sure about the whole 64 bit thing - but im easy going id wait a few months till i got one mind its a big step and they may change everything u cant trust them amd or intel lads as soon as u buy ur sparly 64 bit out pops a 256bit chip ..
but i would like a dual 64bit pc.

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Your right there. When the PS3 and XBOX2 come out I think were going to see allot of change's in the pc hardware market.

Sony and Microsoft are spending some serous money on cpu research

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Yup, unless you're getting the Athlon 64 FX-51 which is socket 940, damn i'd love one of those :drool:

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Is there any rush to buy now? If I remember correctly, AMD are moving Athlon64 from socket 754 and AthlonFX from socket 940 to socket 939 in a few months.

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I normally take the line of unless you need to upgrade, don't bother.
Well a friend of mine really needs to upgrade (can you believe she's running a 266MHz?) so I'm giving her the guts of mine (plus a new powersupply) and upgrading mine
The advantage of the AMD64 is that it runs 32bit apps fantastically but is future ready (if things go 64bit)
So it's not a 64bit struggling to run 32bit, it can do both without emulation.

Just downloading any drivers I might need as going to do a rebuild to clear out any rubbish on my system.
I just know I'm gonna forget something tho!

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The Athlon 64 is a great processor

Been running it for a few months with a Gigabyte Motherboard, it is amazingly stable with Windows XP Pro, hasnt crashed yet and offers plenty of power for games and general apps aswell as dual channel DDR and Hypertransport. Ive never seen Windows boot so quick :)

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But again in order to run any 64 bit apps etc you will need the 64bit version of XP too ;)

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/

So if your running the normal XP your computer is emulating nothing. As far as XP is concerned you have a 32bit cpu. When they were designing this CPU they made it so it would run fine as a 32bit cpu for this reason.

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Yep - and if you have the 64bit xp you need 64bit comp. drivers for all your hardware !! Not easy to find !!

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I had a copy of Windows XP 64 Bit edition for a year or so now....

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Cheers for the link.
That's why I think the AMD has the advantage over Intel's offering, by extending a 32bit to 64 you get the best of both worlds.
So when I get hold of a finished copy of XP64 any future 64bit applications will run luverly, as will any 32bit applications as the CPU can handle both zonkingly well :)

Update: tracked down a copy of srv03sp1_usa_1069_amd64fre_pro.iso which should be active for 360 days so I can play with it now :D

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Intel has been caught out reverse engineering an AMD 64 bit processor to make its own.

source: extremetech

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...129TX1K0000532

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Right, got me a copy of XP64 and currently installing it (why does formatting 156GB still take so long? :D )

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feck tell me about it. I thought it was bad enough doing 120GB :disturbd:

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FYI: Alienware is now offering systems with the awesome AMD 64 FX53:
http://www.alienware.co.uk/system_pages/aurora_ddr.aspx

I want one... :romance:

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You guys do know by the time the software come's out that supports this so you get the full performance the price will have come down anyway

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Yup, but I can play with XP64 now (which will be handy for work) and as a 32bit processor it's stonkingly good (which I needed anyway) and motherboard was only £80, memory £60, the memory might drop in price but motherboards don't normally.

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Yeah but check out the benchmarks.
If you have the money then that is the best CPU you could possibly buy for gaming right now.

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That's some serious speed, shame about the 500 quid price tag though :(

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Right, going back to Plan A re XP64, the trial version can't even open zips so I'm gonna head back to XP Pro and wait til XP64 is finished.
Boots quickly :)

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Wish I knew what you were talking about :rolleyes: :spin:

Anyone take pity and enlighten me :D I'm always willing to learn ;)

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Confused ... I didn't think you had the 64 bit chip yet? Which begs the question, why use Windows XP 64 bit?

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The question isn't really 64/32, it's 'what's the best CPU price/performance ratio I can get' and since the A64 architecture kicks sand in the P4's face (the memory system more than the CPU design) and the prices are more than reasonable, A64 is where it's at. FX chips are way off the scale considering the limited life of Socket 940.

If you're looking for a 64bit OS, may I suggest dual-booting Linux on it? Plenty of full 64bit ports out there now.

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Went out yesterday and bought an AMD 64, hence downloading the trial version of XP64 which loads mega fast, but isn't finished enough for me to want to stick with it.
So now I've installed XP Pro (32bit) and things are running luverly although I have to go and get me a new 120mm case fan as mine had died (which would explain the slight increase in temp of my old CPU)

As for linux, if it did everything I wanted I'd use it, it doesn't, so I don't use it :)

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I'm tempted to build a shuttle and get hold of another A64 and stick Linux on it .. just for the craic :D

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mmm AMD64, me has been thinking once the rent is paid, I will be going the route of AMD64, anyone no the lead time on ms finally rolling out a fulll version for the AMD Processor?

Thinking of going for a bundle deal from novatech, anyone got any good reasons not to?

It seems a few pence cheaper...

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Windows Server 2003, omes with the option to do a quick format, which is nice and speedy and pretty good for everyday use, wonder when it will be available in all there OS's

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I can't think of any reasons not to, also, there's only a minute difference in the benchmarks between the Nforce 3 and Via boards so it doesn't really matter which one of them you go for, though personally, I'd pick the Nforce as ever since the KT266 I've personally had nothing but trouble with 'em.

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It is in XP Pro

I got me the Asus KV8 SE delux
I'm impressed with the little things you get with it, like a MB layout sticker to go on the inside of your case so you don't have to dig out the manual.
Also get Asus PC Probe so I can check my fanspeeds and CPU/Case temp and disk and Physical memory usage all with one click.
Been running my TV card all night and the CPU is up to 44C, case is 33C, which is a heck of a lot cooler than my Athlon 1800+ with a zalman flower!
This is using the AMD H/S/F that came with the CPU

Re the bundles, they appear to be using ECS MB's which I've not had trouble with in the past (but then I never had trouble with my KT266-E)
Don't know if they're using OEM CPU's, so you might not be getting the AMD H/S/F but a cheap and cheerful one.
Other than that I can't think of any reason not to go for a bundle unless you want a different mother board.

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ECS? Used to be cheap and nasty, I owned a K7S5A for about 3 days before ditching it and buying a Gigabyte 7VAXP

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You really havent' had much luck with motherboards have you?
My K7S5A was fine.
Might be having problems with my new one, either that or it's the RAM so back to novatech they shall go after the weekend (so lucky living practically next door to them).

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Same here My K7S5A is fine. I even put a hacked bios on it so now I can overclock the CPU (runs just fine after):D

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Try Linux! They are already numerous Athlon 64 distros!

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Er no thanks. Check here,

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=10822

:angel:

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Well, in all fairness, it wasn't just me, friend of mine had one in one of his first PC's, he dumped it for an original Nforce board after a week or two. But yes, you're right, I am pretty unlucky with hardware, particularly motherboards, the fan died on my Gigabyte, the first asus I got from Ebuyer was DOA, the ECS kept crashing, the MSI board I had was RMA'd, the only 2 decent boards I've ever had was the A7N8X Deluxe I'm using at the moment and an Abit IC7-G (which I sold to get the MSI Athlon 64 board and processor, which I then sold about 3 weeks later and bought new bits with).

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Isn't there a Windows XP 64bit Edition out for this processor?

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Welcome back Wayne, I see your holiday did nothing for your ability to read threads from the beginning ;)

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LOL

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I won't poke fun at you like the others wayne :)

There is a trial version, its far from finished, and of course as its not finished there are very few drivers for it.

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Well i did read it from the beginning, its just that there is a Win XP 64 Bit Edition and i wondered wheather it was made for the 64 bit processors. I must have been getting confused with the pocket PC Edition. :)

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There is an unfinished XP64 which isn't worth touching yet.
There's Pocket PC 2003 which I use on my ipaq and very luvely it is indeed

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Huh?