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stamp92 06-04-2004 19:06

help - poor dvd-r media
 
hi,

ive gone and purchased some dvd-r media from a company 2 find my drive wont write it at the speed stated (x4) but it will write it at (x2) but its unreadable in my PS2, dvd player or computer.

i've done some research on the disc i got (DATA WRITE READ V2) and it turns out its a cheapy make made by a company called PRINCO.

I am angry and frustrated at the predicament im now in. I have 50 of these useless pieces of plastic and if i try and return them 2 the place i got them http://www.cd-rmedia.co.uk i fear they are gonna tell me they will refund but i will have 2 pay the postage. im angry that ive paid for something useless and should never be sold. can i complain 2 trading standards. any idea what i can do? i got these discs because i was using the yellow datawrite classic disks (sometimes associated with the name BULKPAQ) and i thought these discs would be fine because from same manufacturer.

any advice appreciated or stories of people who've been in a similar predicament would be encouraging.

Neil 06-04-2004 19:10

Re: help - poor dvd-r media
 
What are you using to burn the disks, & what are you burning on to them?

stamp92 06-04-2004 19:37

Re: help - poor dvd-r media
 
I HAVE A NEC2500A
I AM BACKING UP MY DVD FILM COLLECTION.
DVD-VIDEO
I use most if not all of the available space on disc

darkangel 06-04-2004 19:47

Re: help - poor dvd-r media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stamp92
hi,

ive gone and purchased some dvd-r media from a company 2 find my drive wont write it at the speed stated (x4) but it will write it at (x2) but its unreadable in my PS2, dvd player or computer.

i've done some research on the disc i got (DATA WRITE READ V2) and it turns out its a cheapy make made by a company called PRINCO.

I am angry and frustrated at the predicament im now in. I have 50 of these useless pieces of plastic and if i try and return them 2 the place i got them http://www.cd-rmedia.co.uk i fear they are gonna tell me they will refund but i will have 2 pay the postage. im angry that ive paid for something useless and should never be sold. can i complain 2 trading standards. any idea what i can do? i got these discs because i was using the yellow datawrite classic disks (sometimes associated with the name BULKPAQ) and i thought these discs would be fine because from same manufacturer.

any advice appreciated or stories of people who've been in a similar predicament would be encouraging.

used to use those disk with no problems they are rated for 4x,it could well be a firmware issue with your drive, have you check u have the latest firmware?
i recommend ritek media it comes in various brands and is thought to be the best around

Neil 06-04-2004 19:54

Re: help - poor dvd-r media
 
Is your dvd burner caable of burning at 4 x speed?

Charlie_Bubble 06-04-2004 20:01

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stamp92, do you know the firmware of your DVD burner. I have the NEC2500 too. Mine came with 1.05. I have flashed it up to 1.06. I'll try and dig up the link for you.

You may find some DVD players can't play -r and some can't play +r. Have you played other -r disks on your player?

Charlie_Bubble 06-04-2004 20:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Is your dvd burner caable of burning at 4 x speed?

The NEC 2500 is an 8x burner.

Charlie_Bubble 06-04-2004 20:05

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Look under the "Firmwares that work" section. About halfway down the page:

http://tdb.rpc1.org/

Go for this one:

RPC1 and Rip Lock firmware based on Windows 1.06.

Charlie_Bubble 06-04-2004 20:07

Re: help - poor dvd-r media
 
I can recommend the Memorex -R disks from Play.com. Fairly reasonable at 25 for £17.99 with free delivery. They are 4x.

DrAwesome 06-04-2004 20:14

Re: help - poor dvd-r media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stamp92
I HAVE A NEC2500A
I AM BACKING UP MY DVD FILM COLLECTION.
DVD-VIDEO
I use most if not all of the available space on disc

I have a Nec 2500A (its just a pioneer A07/107 in a different case) the firmware i have atm is 1.06 link there is an update for the NEC 1300A but not for the 2500A.

If your having speed problems when writing, makesure that your data transfer mode is set to DMA mode & not PIO mode.

Access Device Manager by right-clicking My Computer in Windows (look under the Hardware tab under Windows XP).
In Device Manager, double click ATAPI/IDE Controllers & double click 'Primary IDE Channel' or 'Secondary IDE Channel' according to the connection of your DVD writer. If the transfer mode is set to PIO, change to DMA.
Quote:

Originally Posted by darkangel
i recommend ritek media it comes in various brands and is thought to be the best around

Good call yes Ritek dye is a safe bet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble
The NEC 2500 is an 8x burner.

Charlie_Bubble you know your cutters :)

Charlie_Bubble 06-04-2004 20:16

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BTW when you flash it, make sure you have taken any media out of the burner. :)

iron25 06-04-2004 20:26

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I once bought 25 BULKPAQ dvds and I reckon I had to throw away 50% of them due to read errors. The trouble with these cheaper dvds is that they are usually overprints, what this means is that they failed the quality control checks first time round and so get reprinted.

My advice is to buy Arita dvds by Ritek, about 75p each. Burnt over 100 disks and could count the number that I have thrown away on one hand, to be honest I can only remember throwing 1 away.

stamp92 it seems strange that you can't even read the disks especially from your PC, usually the disks will read fine it's when you start to get to the end of the disk that the read errors occur. What software are you using to burn the dvds and are you closing the disk? I take it you are burning movies, have you created the correct dvd structure?

Neil 06-04-2004 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron25
<snip>

I use Bulkpaq DVD-r's all the time (never had one issue)

I pay about £13.00 for a spindle of 25. I know that is cheap, but like I say, I've never had an issue.

Bifta 06-04-2004 20:34

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Always use Ritek, I've never known anyone go wrong with them (the ones with the purple dye)

DrAwesome 08-04-2004 23:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stamp92
hi,

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Did you solve your speed problem?

andygrif 13-04-2004 11:05

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I did read in one of the PC mags recently that there have been major problems with blank DVD media piracy. By that I don't mean that people are copying movies, but that pirates are making blank media that claims to be Verbatim, Maxell, etc. Tens of thousands of these discs have got into the supply chain, even from legitmate suppliers that are not aware they might be selling forged blank media.

The particular issue was that data was fading after a very short time, but I suppose that it might be possible that it is causing your problems too.

Unfortunately the article didn't draw any conclusions as to where to buy your media to ensure that you're getting the genuine article. I suppose you could try some of the professional agents such as ProTape, Stanley Productions, HHB etc.

In fact HHB do manufacture their own Pro DVD-Rs so I guess you would know you're getting the real thing if you bought direct (albiet at a hugely expensive premium!)

mrmassive 03-05-2004 23:49

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i have one of these writers with hacked firmware and write on most blank dvd's at 6x. Stay clear of G04 dye cos there great at 4x but anything faster there crap. I use the datawrite classic the yellow beasts cost £27 for a hundred there a nice pale purple underneath and they burn great no blemishe's. Not like datawrite red they will burn at 6x but the burn is not very good

Bifta 04-05-2004 00:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmassive
i have one of these writers with hacked firmware and write on most blank dvd's at 6x. Stay clear of G04 dye cos there great at 4x but anything faster there crap. I use the datawrite classic the yellow beasts cost £27 for a hundred there a nice pale purple underneath and they burn great no blemishe's. Not like datawrite red they will burn at 6x but the burn is not very good

27 quid for 100? DVD's? Where?

mrmassive 04-05-2004 00:07

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computer fair try this site they are the bizz.

www.bigpockets.co.uk they deliver in 48hrs or less

Bifta 04-05-2004 00:10

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erk no thanks, they charge 15 quid to ship to Northern Ireland, hardly worth bothering. I've seen some Datawrite Reds with the purple dye going for £30.99 per 100, might get some sample ones first.

mrmassive 04-05-2004 00:18

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http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/ .This is a great site and are very cheap and they stock the datawrite yellow and also 8x media a bit pricey but will drop when 16x media and writers become more available.

mrmassive 04-05-2004 00:21

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stay clear of version 2 datawrite red blotchy on burn

Bifta 04-05-2004 00:23

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V2's wont work properly with my NEC unless I update my firmware, that's a whole handling with no floppy drive :(

mrmassive 04-05-2004 00:28

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what version of firmware are you useing may i ask????????????

Bifta 04-05-2004 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmassive
what version of firmware are you useing may i ask????????????

I have no idea, how would I find out?

mrmassive 04-05-2004 00:35

Re: help - poor dvd-r media
 
when you reboot pc it tells you or clonecd tells you

Bifta 04-05-2004 00:40

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damn, just uninstalled Clone CD too :|

mrmassive 04-05-2004 00:43

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blindwrite tells you lol

Bifta 04-05-2004 00:46

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Info on CDWriter:
Manufacturer: _NEC
Product: DVD_RW ND-1300A
Revision: 1.05

Jonboy 04-05-2004 01:19

Re: help - poor dvd-r media
 
I Use BulkPaq Dvd - R Have Not Tried Any Others Yet 4X Speed But I Only Write At 2X Dont Know If That Makes Any Differance I Have Never Had A Coaster Yet In The ^Months I Have Had The Burner But Then Daddy Allways Did Say More Haste Less Speed Works For Me
Also I Use Nero6 Retail Version And Dvd Shrink

kronas 04-05-2004 02:32

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if your looking for quality media then i suggest these:

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=49373

having said that they work perfectly in my pioneer 105 although not on a mates 107 :shrug: but the quality of the discs are 100% perfect!

also infiniti white tops are great for reliability and compatibility.


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