15 year old arrested for child pornography ?
 

can someone explain to me how a 15 year old girl who infact sent and posted pictures of herself over the internet, in various states of dresses and provocative incidents has been charged with:

source:
post-gazzete.com

http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp

somethings wrong here........

she posted pictures of herself no one forced her so why all the fuss with the cops, sure its underage but this is the internet and after all its about freedom of ones self ?

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A child, posting sexual pictures of herself on the internet...Kronas please tell me you're not serious claiming there's nothing wrong with it in the name of "freedom of one's self"?

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dissemination = distributing, if she was spreading pictures of herself as a minor, she is breaking the law.

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what happend to freedom, possible modeling prospects ?

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How did she sexually abuse children? :dozey:

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my point exactly :dozey:

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Hmmmmm, its a tricky one. maybe it has something to do with creating a market for that kind of thing?

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market ? she was spreading pictures of herself so what ?

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I've often wondered about this, if you took pics of yourself at 14 naked "in hand" is that illegal?
Is this one of those strange legal situations like with 16 year olds being able to make love as long as they don't look? (can't look at porno's but can do the deed)
If a married couple of 16 year olds filmed themselves, would it be illegal for them to view the tape before they are 18?

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All of these "victimless crimes" laws need to be repealed. And the laws concerning sex and pornography and age of consent too. It is just a big mess here in Canada.

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Surely they police would have just been better to have brought it to the attention of her parents and let them deal with it?

Are these police likely to arrest someone who self harm's with a charge of assault? Or charge an attempted suicide with attempted murder?
Is this not a case of the state claiming rights over your body and dictacting what you can and can't do with it?

I bet if someone had coerced her into doing it then the police would not be arresting her.

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<boggle!>

Whilst I think what she did was probably pretty stupid, the charges that have been made against her are downright ludicrous!

Sexual abuse of children?? That's as sensible as the guys from Operation Spanner who were convicted of aiding and abetting assaults *on themselves*!

Frankly I think the Police in this case are going to come out looking more than a little ridiculous.

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As she is a minor, why have the charges been bought against her & why have her parents not been bought to book?
(I'm not saying they knew, but they are legally responsible for her so would be the ones to be charged for something surely?).

Has Kronas been looking for links to her pics? :D

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Was just a suggestion.

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I can't believe that you think it's perfectly reasonable for an underage girl to spread pictures of herself performing "sexual acts" to people in chat rooms .. that's sick.

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She did encourage child pornography by adding to the Internet photograph library of unclothed underage children.

I don't think any charges should have been brought though. Just being pulled up for doing it would probably have been enough to stop the girl from doing it. It should have been more a case of sitting down with her and the family to discuss, or point out, the pitfalls of the action.

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Err, I don't know what she was planning to model, but she took photos of herself "in various states of undress and performing a variety of sexual acts". Unless of course she was planning to start making Porn films..

Freedom on the Internet is a good concept. It has one flaw in this case though. Paedophiles. If the mean she talked to were Paedophiles, then she is encouraging them. Which is wrong.

If they were not, and they genuinely thought they were chatting to someone older, then they have (without knowing it) broken the law as they have downloaded nude pictures of a Minor. Asumming they are not Paedo's, this is hardly fair on them.

Having said that, I am surprised she was charged. Surely her parents would be..

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Assuming that they were not paedophiles, it would be highly unlikely that any charges would be brought against them, and I think the Traci Lords case will most likely have set precedents for that type of scenario.

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True. It was a bit of an extreme example.. Actually, I wasn't suggesting they would be charged. It's just not fair on them..

:notopic: Actually, seeing as the law states that children cannot give consent for sex,sex without consent is Rape (statutory rape), depending on the acts she performed on herself, they may be able to charge her with raping herself.. :Yikes:

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They could probably charge her with distribution of pictures of an obsecne nature of a minor. Because she is only 15 years old, she does not have the right by law to make decisions like this for herself, as she is considered a minor. At the same time, who do you blame for the girl deciding to do what she did, i bet her parents had no knowledge of what she was doing, so therefore, how can they be accountable, i dont know, but im quite sure it is there responsibility to protect there daughter and they have failed in this duty.

As the girl is a minor, it will be treated as abuse of her. Also, it would depend on the conversation if done in a chat room, based on how the other people in there responded to her, did she just take them and send them, was she coaxed into doing it, etc etc etc. All these questions would need to be asked if the case came to trail.

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The problem is you cannot allow her to do this otherwise you are saying that for some ages its all-right which its not!

Who was receiving them? Also it encourages pervos and worst of all if you make an allowance there will be people taking advantage of the loophole in the future. If we want to stop this sort of thing then we should stop all of it. Consent or not

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I'm not sure how one boggles one's mind but take it from me mine is definitely boggled.

Well I hope you can keep us up to date as to how this turns out kronas.It's one to keep an eye on.:)

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What was that then?

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I remember this. Traci Lords became a very successful porn "actress", and made millions, as did those who used her in their films. One problem. What they didn't know was that she was under-age when she "starred" in many of her early films. It was a massive scandal.

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Ah rings a bell now you mention it, or was it a film I saw, something about the timing of her tattoo...

Did the porn industry get charged or was she for deception?
I would assume these films are banned now.

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She disappeared. The porn industry nearly got totalled. I *think* they got off because she had also got a passport or something, and as that is a legal document from the government, they had to accept that she had deceived everyone.

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Traci Lords is still around, she has appeared in many TV series and a few films (such as Blade).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords

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Was she now? So she's gone legit? Didn't know that....

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Quite interesting...
Get yourself well known, then just before setting yourself up to make your own movies, make all the ones that got you popular illegal, make your own, get monopoly on yourself.

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sexual acts it was 'provocative' clothing as well could mean anything swimsuit ?

why, shes choose to do it, i believe the person when he or she does something like that at that age knows what they are doing, i still dont see a valid reason to take those pics down, and charge her.

nope :angel: :D

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Because the people who made the law don't think that someone of her age knows what she is doing

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if it was forced i would agree, but its done on her own time and will to do so.

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Yup I know what you mean kronny
I think it was crazy to charge her.
Bring it to the attention of her parents, let them deal with it. if they don't, and there is still concerns, deal with the parents not dealing with it.