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SMHarman 26-03-2004 00:02

Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Reformetted HDD
Reinstalled W98
Got the screen and LAN drivers installed and its online!

Need to run windows update, but getting lots of script errors. I imagine because I am currently on IE4 SP1.

Can i upgrade this directly to IE6? The MS site seems to throw me out.

Next steps / thoughts?

philip.j.fry 26-03-2004 00:04

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Bit of a hack I know, but have you got something like an NTL or Freeserve installer CD lying around the house, they usually have a copy of IE5 and above on them so it may get you that far.

Chris W 26-03-2004 00:08

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
if you have the ntl installer cd to hand, browse to setup -> IE5.5 -> locate the installer file and bob's your uncle!

Alternatively, somewhere on MS's site there is a download for IE5.5 as well, but is quite hidden (and i am too lazy to find it for you!) because the like people to go straight to IE6 now.

Or... option 3... download another browser and run the updates through that and just ditch IE!

MovedGoalPosts 26-03-2004 00:09

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Many of the online updates can only run independent of each other. Especailly the IE and DirectX ones. You need to carefully select these, deselecting others from the Windows Update screens.

Tip, do the IE updates first, then the patches for IE. If you can quickly, get your A/V updated before doing too much else, as that might then stop an infection before you can get all the patches loaded.

Flubflow 26-03-2004 00:17

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Personally I think IE5.5 is as far as you should want to go with Windows98/se/me systems. IE6 is fine for windowsXP but can often cause problems with win98/se/me.

Chris W 26-03-2004 00:22

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flubflow
Personally I think IE5.5 is as far as you should want to go with Windows98/se/me systems. IE6 is fine for windowsXP but can often cause problems with win98/se/me.

IE6(sp1) is now available and suitable and ... wait for it... SUPPORTED BY MICROSOFT!!! on win98/se/me/2k

I would say just stay away from it as much as you can!

mozilla firefox does me nicely!

SMHarman 26-03-2004 00:53

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
5.5. is no longer availible for download according to the msft site. It is into 2nd stage support, updates will be availible etc, but no new installs.

I chose custom install of ie6 and it worked.

Now it is crawlling through direct X

I have zone alarm downloaded and waiting untill the next restart...

Thanks

MovedGoalPosts 26-03-2004 01:10

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
I know M$ recently decided there was a big security hole in 5.5 probably why it has been withdrawn from public consumption. I expect the security patches for it probably would have got close to IE6 anyway.

Chris W 26-03-2004 01:16

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

IE5.5 sp2.... only for winME aparently, but i am sure it will work with 98 as well

mart44 26-03-2004 06:35

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
How about going into: Tools > Internet Options > Advanced.

If not already done:
*Tick the box that says, 'Disable Script Debugging'
*Untick the box that says, 'Display a notification about every script error'

SMHarman 26-03-2004 07:22

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Once IE6 was installed everything was fine. Now all updates on board and zone alarm protecting the system.

Next install extra HDD.

SMHarman 27-03-2004 00:39

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
I'll re-use this thread.

I've just pulled it apart and installed a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus9 120Gb UDMA133. The jumper on this shows slave, the jumper on the original disc master.

Both are on the same cable.

Power the PC back up and it cannot find any HDDs (or the only one it can find is unformatted?)? Help?

Chris W 27-03-2004 02:12

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
try booting from a windows installer disk and then that will format the drive for you.

If you don't have that option available, pm me and i will send you the files to create a dos 6.2 boot disk, use that and then format for win and resintall. Should sort you out.

SMHarman 27-03-2004 08:32

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
I thought it would detect the old 6Gb drive and boot from there, then I would format the new disk.

I can boot from the installer disk, but only get A: and D:

Which option should i use when I run the 98 CD?

I think my next step is to disconnect the new HDD and see if it runs OK without it still. The cable might be loose on the MOBO.

Stuartbe 27-03-2004 09:26

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
I thought it would detect the old 6Gb drive and boot from there, then I would format the new disk.

I can boot from the installer disk, but only get A: and D:

Which option should i use when I run the 98 CD?

I think my next step is to disconnect the new HDD and see if it runs OK without it still. The cable might be loose on the MOBO.

Hi m8...

You need to fdisk the second drive and format it before it will work. Hold CRTL on the keyboard just before windows starts to load and you will see a menu. Slect command prompt only from the list.

Type fdisk

select option 5 then enter.
Select disk 2
create an extended dos partition and then create a logical drive within the extended partition.
Exit Fdisk and reboot the computer folowing the same steps above for the menu.

at the command prompt type format d:

HTH

SMHarman 27-03-2004 12:58

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Type FDISK,
it asks about large disk support, select yes. Then says disk error

Is this because the PC is an antique or the disk is DOA.

This is the disk
http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/at...ifications.htm
120Gb
This is the PC Spec
http://support.gateway.com/support/s...?sn=0010974567

Must say I find it impressive they still have this info for a PC shipped in September 1998.
Motherboard is
Anigma Pentium II Motherboard w/ Integrated AGP/Audio/DVD [Part #4000274]

Thanks all in anticipation

SMHarman 27-03-2004 15:47

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Found this - does it help?

Q11. How can I increase hard disk capacity?
A11. If you want to upgrade or replace your IDE hard disk drive with one of the newer large capacity IDE disks (> 528MB capacity), there are three general solutions:

a BIOS upgrade
an Extended IDE (EIDE) controller card
software drivers supplied by most manufacturers of large EIDE hard disks.
An up-to-date BIOS is the most trouble-free solution for using large IDE hard disks. It is compatible with both your motherboard and nearly all major operating systems. The BIOS installed on your motherboard must provide Logical Block Addressing (LBA), at minimum, to support large hard disk drives.

Any Phoenix BIOS identified as Version 1.xx is limited to handling IDE hard disks no larger than 528MB. The Award 4.28 and 4.32A BIOS used in the Anigma EISA 486 board has the same limitations. As a general rule, any Phoenix BIOS identified as 4.xx is capable of handling EIDE hard disks up to 2.1GB in capacity. The latest MicroFirmware BIOS upgrades allow you to install the largest EIDE hard disks available. Contact MicroFirmware for BIOS upgrade information. All MicroFirmware BIOS upgrades support LBA plus other advanced BIOS features.

If you decide to investigate an EIDE controller card solution, you must have one which supports LBA, at minimum.

Software solutions to the large IDE hard disk problem are not universal. They apply only to the operating system that you use, sometimes requiring an exact software release to operate correctly. Generally, they require that you set up a conventional DOS partition on the hard disk, then run a software install program which adds drivers and other special software to your system to give you access to the additional hard disk capacity.

Finally, if your system uses SCSI hard disks, refer to the manufacturer-supplied documentation for the SCSI host adapter installed on your system. This documentation describes the capacity limitations, if any, of the SCSI host adapter. Modern SCSI host adapters support very large hard disks with little extra effort on your part.
http://webpages.charter.net/dperr/mi.../anigma.htm#Q9

bopdude 27-03-2004 17:12

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Type FDISK,
it asks about large disk support,
Thanks all in anticipation

I seem to remember something about win '98 not being able to read some hdd's above 60 Gb ( I think ) Not sure what the fix was but there IS a way AFAIK, will look around :) seen it somewhere :confused:

swoop101 27-03-2004 18:03

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
you used the magic word MAXTOR

get maxblast3 from http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/dow...xblast3win.htm

download it and let it do the work for you.

SMHarman 28-03-2004 02:59

Re: Help reinstalling my W98SE PC
 
Sorted - at 2:56 am...

Maxtor HDDs don't have a Master/Slave/CableSelect, they have a master and CS, if you remove the jumper it is slave.

And then it all worked.

MaxBlast ran and its all running

Only thing I don't seem to be able to get rid of is a password request box for windys networking. Anyone know if you can? It appears when Windows starts. I'd just like this PC to be able to restart without any prompts so I don't need a screen plugged in to restart it.


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