Download from Kazaa - Go to prison
 

Earlier on the news i saw this report about people who download music illegally will go to prison. It will make us think twice about doing it in future! So people get Kazaa off your system and get rid of all the soyware, if you don't want to risk a prison sentence.

Source: ITV News

WNA

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considering downloading got me to buy avril's album in the first place bad move...............

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A while back, I wiped Kazaa from my system, then I binned all of my CDs that were filled with mp3's. I'm not entirely sure why I did it, it wasn't fear of being caught. It seemed more of a realisation that I downloaded those tracks, listened to them for a few weeks then burned them to a cd and they ended up never being listened to again. I'm just not that interested, having broadband I'm much happier listening to 'net radio and getting a good selection of music. Having said that, I don't agree with the music industries reaction to downloading so I refuse to buy anything from them as well.

On the other hand, I do have a few movies/TV programmes, but all of the stuff that I watch is either something that I missed on TV, or if it is any good I go to the cinema/buy it. I can honestly say that there are some films I would never have gone to the cinema to see if I hadn't seen a pirate first.

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Oh well, I occasioanly download the odd track, sometimes results in me buying the CD, sometimes doesn't... Not gonna waste my money on a CD that's potentially crap :)

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Where exactly does it mention prison?

I quote

Believe it or not, not everyone who ends up in court actually faces a prison term.

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Exactly, it used to be common for trailers and the like to be released for public consumption to whet the appetite for the real thing. P2P downloads, which for video and even audio MP3 is usually not as good quality as the commercial product enables the potential customer to evaluate if the real thing is worth their cash. If it is worth it we'll go out and but it, and probably more so. Shareware software has survived for years by using this cheap almost self advertising method. Why else is the number of albums being sold still strong, and DVD sales escalating like theres no tommorrow?

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I don't download many mp3s, what with the crappy quality of laptop speakers, frequent hd crashes meaning i lose the lot anyway, and getting bored queuing to download things i prefer to stick to good old fm radio or just tv!

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Many artistes have made money out of me because ive downloaded there album. Recently downloaded O by Damien Rice, I would have never bought that but downloaded it, listened to it, bought it and now trying ot get tickets to a concert too.

I firmly believe in the download and be able to listen to it 2 or 3 times approach. But lest face it, what ever protection is put in place someone will find a way around it

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Well I download mp3 and will keep doing it :D Prison will be a good rest away from the kids and I wont have to pay poll tax :Yikes:

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You'll also get served crap food and probably end up getting buggered with a pool queue

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knees and jerks spring to mind , anyone with a little bit of sense would have got rid of kazaa a long time ago , kazaalite is a better option , even if just to avoid the spyware , besides there are plenty of other p2p programs out there to dl with ;)

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I used to live a few metres away from Durham prison wall (on the outside :) ) and I awoke to the smell of their breakfast every morning, can't say that it smelt bad :(

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You sure that wasn't the warders food?

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Soyware? Is that a vegie version of Spyware? LOL

I buy 2nd hand records mostly so the record companys dont get my money :pp
at least not directly.

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I mucked up on that one. :o

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Can i point something out?

They are not sending people to prison only sueing them and even then its serial uploaders

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heh if you choose to use a p2p app DONT use kazaa hunt around and you can still find K-Lite mirrored (the main site may have been shut down by sharman but work still goes on) then no spyware.

Also the way you get done is by search bots that run searches 24/7 and if it finds a match they log ip of the sources (to get the ip they have to initiate a transfer and then can get the ip from the packets). This method however is very flawed as you can get a nasty letter (i have myself) when you are only sharing a file that has been renamed to something copyrighted eg a fake - now i actually challenged this and threatened to sue as I had not done anything wrong and i got a formal written apology from both MediaForce and NTL (who didnt investigate and just carried out MediaForces demands without question), now this apology is my prize and joy as at one point i was a developer on K-lite ++ 2.6 and i thought it was rather ironic.

So in order to not get caught by the snoops you can do 1 of 2 things or both
1) Use peerguardian or bad ip blocker that is included with k-lite, these are apps that stop certain ips that have been reported as being copyright protection agencies or otherwise unsavoury characters. from connecting to you.
2) This is something i hate to say but it has to be said DONT SHARE, if you dont share they cant catch you by attempting to download from you.

Now i am only stating this for reference purposes and I have to say I no longer tolerate copyright violations (hence my leaving the k-lite project) but that doesnt mean i cant tell ppl how not to get caught by users who are actually gaining illegal access to our systems for the purpose of law enforcement. A very clear breach of our civil rights to privacy

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i agree with above if you dont upload they dont care

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Also something to point out, if you do choose to share then get yourself a nice proxy or 10 to make it alot harder to get your ip....

I myself dont use p2p apps anymore but i dont go online without using a proxy of sorts, i monitor all my ports at all times and I use software to monitor all incoming and outgoing packets (sometimes you can find some rather interesting things on your machine), in an impersonal place like the net, to a script kiddie intent on doing some damage to your machine with the latest tool he downloaded your just an ip number, so i prefer to take as many precautions as possible, paranoid? maybe but safer too.....

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Again another over-reaction from business over a crime that costs them money. If only as much effort was put into the crimes business do, that costs LIVES.

Fecking Facists :mad:

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that right :tu:
For killing or rapeing some one you only get 6 months in side :disturbd: for down loading mp3 you can get up to a year :shocked: that is wrong

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not sure about your 6 months bit , but i see where you are coming from :)

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Below is a typical example of Corporate manslaughter that was white washed over.
http://www.simonjones.org.uk/

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You're clearly reading the wrong newspapers mate. :rolleyes:

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I think he was exagerating for effect.
Altho as the example I posted earlier shows, people do get away with murder. Allegedly. :)

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Prison is like a holiday nowadays i know people who hapilly go for a break

Theres no chance they'd take you to prison for this, people rob all sorts and get away with it

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No NTL though they have Sky, full gym, spa, tennis courts, full size swimming bath, 3 course meals & air conditioning in every cell some of the prisoners like it so much once their term is up they re-offend to get back in.

Holme House can offer a variety of employment opportunities within its modern workshop complex. These are complemented and supported by a purpose built Education Department offering both part time and full time classes and acclaimed Family Learning Group. HMP Holme House also offers an Offending Behaviour Programme run by a multiââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“disciplina ry team, a Therapeutic Community and a purpose built Gym consisting of Sports Hall, Weights room, all weather pitch and Fitness Suite

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and all just around the corner from me :mad:

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Holme house huh?

KNow a few guys that work there, they paint a different picture of the place.
After the last riot there I was informed by a friend that the guys rioted because they are locked up , in some cases for 23 hours a day because there isnt enough staff to even allow them to make their allotted phone call to family. They do not have sky TV in all cells, although that is somehtign that is being looked into. Holme house houses several categories of prisoner, those that want to reform to those that make constant threats to officers and their families and do indeed try and stab the prison officers at every opportunity. I'd imagine that if you co-operate you get to use the facilities as a reward for the efforts you make into your own rehabilitation. If you want to know the truth about a prison speak to the people that work there, ask them about their daily threats of violence and murder and rape etc. I have been told by several people it is an horrendous place to work, it would be worse to live there.

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well I am a man :Yikes: we all exagerate :disturbd: 2inc=1foot

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It would appear that it is legal to download/upload files in Canada.

http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5182...?tag=nefd_lede

quote:

Sharing copyrighted works on peer-to-peer networks is legal in Canada, a federal judge ruled on Wednesday, handing the record industry a sharp setback in its international fight against file swappers.

Canadian record labels had asked the court for authorization to identify 29 alleged file swappers in that country, in preparation for suing them for copyright infringement, much as the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has sued more than 1500 people in America.

But the judge denied that request. In a far-ranging decision, the court further found that both downloading music and putting it in a shared folder available to other people online appeared to be legal in Canada.


Lets all move to Jerrek land now. :pp