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Dont forget, clocks go forward on Saturday night/ Sunday morning! One less hour in bed:cry:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/sumtimetb.htm

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Or one hour less awake if you slob around on a Sunday like me.

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it's absurd

I wish they would stop doing it


they did stop once a few years ago but started up
again for some reason

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If they did stop would you prefer
'Light mornings and dark evenings' OR
'Dark mornings and light evenings'?

I'd prefer the later.

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go live in the States, theres a few states that dont observe this practice such as Indiana. Now that is confusing!!

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I agree - I can live with going to work on the dark, but I really hate leaving at 5 o'clock and having to put the headlights on :(

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maybe they could sort of go half way - put them forward half an hour
and leave it like that as a sort of compromise


in Australia, Queensland and NSW have different views on it

so one does daylight saving the other not

there is a pub on the actual border in tweed heads where
you can celebrate new years eve at one end of the bar and then
at the other end an hours later as the pub spans the border

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kewl, when the pub shuts you just move to the other end of the bar for the last hour!! ;)

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What is the relevance of either question ?

In the winter you have dark mornings and dark evenings, in the summer both are light. In spring and Autumn you change from one to the other - all the change to BST achieves is to slightly change the migration from one to the other for a few weeks.

It's a totally pointless change that costs millions in wasted time.

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Oooh hark at her and her handbag! :D

It's obviously relavent as someone went to the effort of making the change in the first place. :rolleyes:

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pmsl@ this thread (and I started it!)
It was just meant to be a 'heads up' about the clocks going forward, not a free form winge :D

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One less hour in bed eh.....

I guess I'll have to catch up by having a nap when I get to work Sunday morning.

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I believe (I am sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong) that the change was to allow farmers more daylight for farming?

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How does it cost millions??? Last time I checked I didnt have to pay to put the clock back :pp

the point in this by the way is to ballance out the day in the summer, for e.g. would you really want it to stay light until about midnight? (Sun goes down at 10:30 mid summer, if it wasnt for putting the clocks foreward the sun wouldnt set until 11:30) a lot of people cant sleep during the day so this would certtainly unsettle these people. Allthough I would prefer later daylight To be honest.

The original point in daylight savings was to save on candle wax during the winter, If I remember correctly. Bascicly it is to optomise the day so that pretty much all working is done in daylight.

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You wouldn't say that if you lived in Scotland. In the dead of winter, it's not fully daylight in Glasgow until almost 9am. If the whole UK switches permanently to BST, you would be expecting people to spend half their morning in darkness. It's a little unfair.

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Agreed!Makes more sense for kids to come home in the light.

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I'm trying my best not to ever live in Scotland :)
I expect the time would change to be in line with GMT rather than BST.
Would BST in winter make it 10am before you get light if we switched to BST?

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Daylight savings is a good thing. Although, our clocks don't turn back until April 4.

Daylight Saving Time is NOT observed in Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, the Eastern Time Zone portion of the State of Indiana, and by most of Arizona (with the exception of the Navajo Indian Reservation in Arizona). :)

Some areas of Canada not using Daylight Saving Time include, Fort St. John, Charlie Lake, Taylor and Dawson Creek in British Columbia, Creston in the East Kootenays, and most of Saskatchewan (except Denare Beach and Creighton).

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You should know by now that some threads just have a life of thier own :)

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Like the Evil Dead :rolleyes:

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Yes - when the clocks go forward to BST, 9am becomes 10am. So if it's not properly light until 9am in the winter in Scotland, leaving things on BST would make that 10am.

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Not really, the morning rush hour is more intense than the evening because everyone goes to work and school at the same time. If we have to choose either morning or evening to benefit from daylight in winter, then morning is safest.

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Yes I liked the 'Evil Dead' but shouldnt this be in the 'Films you like' thread. ;)

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Or perhaps the even weirder "in 7 days" thread. :erm:

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What about your little one though?

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So? I am sure that if the British Isles were upside down then those in Scotland would not give a monkey's about England. I am most certainly NOT a Euorphile (?is that a word) - but I would genrally align the UK clock to Western European time

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Personally I think it might be a good idea to collapse the school day so that children go to and from school in daylight hours.Works at the school I work in.Start at 8.30,no lunch hour,just two 20 minute breaks and finish at 2.30 pm.This leaves time after school for clubs,sports fixtures and detentions and the students can be home before it is dark.With no lunch hour there is the added bonus of less time to plot mischief. ;)

Frankly in this day and age I can't see the point of the chop and change.During wartime yes there was a point but not now.I'm sure farmers can survive.

Incog.

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:Yikes: your school takes discipline a bit seriously if you plan the timetable for that. Or perhaps you have a mega problem :confused:

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'added bonus' Not the whole point.The point is to have time for the extra's at the end of the day and thus parents don't insist junior is home straight after school and there is no arguing about detentions or whether a child can be in a sports team because parents are worried about junior coming home in the dark.

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...and the thread drags on like a wounded wildebeest :D

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I don't know why there is all this talk about farmers wanting daylight saving. If they are dealing with animals, the animals don't give a toss about the time. Their body clocks dictate how they have to be looked after. If animals aren't involved then the farmer gets up when it is light enough to see what he is doing and works as long as it is needed. There are still the same number of daylight hours in a day whether you have daylight saving or not.

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I don't know why, but we were taught at school it was so that farmers wanted more daylight in the morning. Maybe this is so they can milk their animals or prepare them for market, and then send the milk out or go to market in the Afternoon.

I know we have dairies, but the laws were passed several years ago. There are other reasons as well, apparently.

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If anyone wants more info on daylight savings the site below some usefull info.

http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/

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What about my little one?

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A lot of businesses have to manually change time related systems twice a year.

As to why do we do it - I believe it was to give farmers more daylight in the morning during the war - a war which I believe ended some years ago now.

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Yep and (afaik) licensing hours were set as they are to increase productivity during WW1.... :rolleyes:

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Will he want to get up earlier as the clocks are changing?

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Ahh Brithish summertime... More server warning messages !!!!

The system has auto ajusted the clock :blah:

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According to the website I posted earlier, farmers opposed the introdution of DST as it upset the body clocks of their animals.

About twelve months after Willett began to advocate daylight saving (he spent a fortune lobbying), he attracted the attention of the authorities and Mr. Pearce later Sir Robert Pearce introduced a Bill in the House of Commons to make it compulsory to adjust the clocks. The bill was drafted in 1909 and introduced in Parliament several times, but it met with ridicule and opposition, especially from farming interests. Generally lampooned at the time, Willett died on March 4, 1915.

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You think you have problems.. Try dealing with a lab of 60 machines that all do that....

Not a problem now. Even though we have 300 machines in the labs, they are synchronised with the domain controller..

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My mum works in a nursery, and she tells them it takes the toddlers a good week or so to get used to changed rhythm.

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:LOL: CSC have 3000+ servers that need the time change box ticking.... I will gladly swap m8 :D

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Iceland, Ireland and Portugal aren't on Central European Time and frankly there's no argument for putting us on permanent BST just to make us like the rest of Europe - they would still be an hour ahead of us for 6 months of the year because their clocks go forward an hour this weekend too. In terms of alignment with the Greenwich meridian, France should be on the same time as us, not the other way round. And by that measure, Spain, Germany and Benelux should be as well.

Incidentally, it's not just Scotland that would suffer half a morning of darkness if we switched to permanent BST, a fair chunk of the north of England would suffer as well.

But you're right, if things were reversed we probably wouldn't care a fig about you soft southern jessies anyway. ;)

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Ah, BST.
I remember it well because it has always been a great moment in NTL thickery when the next days EPG update still stays on GMT so, to you and I, it then goes from a previously unbearable 12:10am to an utterly useless and totally unfuriating 01:10am for the next 6 months until we go back to GMT again.
I think this year, assuming it does indeed happen again, I will make a very determined effort to get to the bottom of it with the person(s) at NTL responsible for this debacle.

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The reason is that, despite appearances to the contrary, not everyone in the UK lives in the south of England. The Scots apparently objected (for some strange reason) to having to wait until 10 o'clock before the sun arose in mid-winter. More seriously, I believe that it caused an increase in traffic accidents.

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Well let Scotland switch back and forth then and leave us out of the loop. :zzz:

Incog. :)

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great more light on an evening = more golf (good old summer time)

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Why not let the counties that want to use summer time use it, and those that don't don't have to? Let Scotland use it if they want, and England not if they don't want to...

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What about northern England then? Newcastle for example.

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I think that's what Incog said..

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Yep... Its much easier to find your ball in the rough when its light :D

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Or Balls...

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Does EVERY thread have to be reduced to StuartB's balls? :mad:

Get back on topic. :knock:

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I think you're forgetting that the UK is on a completely different geographic scale to North America. A great many people live in one county and work in another, or do business across different counties. If such a large number of people crammed into such a small space all had to start trying to remember who was on which time zone, there would be chaos. It simply wouldn't be worth the trouble.

Actually, re-reading your post, are you confused about what a county is in the UK? Scotland and England are not counties, they are seperate and distinct nations joined as a single State called the United Kingdom. Within each nation there are counties, just as you have them within your states in the US - e.g. Yorkshire, Lancashire and Derbyshire in England; Aberdeenshire, East Dunbartonshire and North Lanarkshire in Scotland.

Personally I don't think any change is worth the trouble. This is a story the Press run every year to fill a few column inches but I think the chances of anything changing are pretty much zero.

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To Whom It May Concern

The clocks going forward is an ideal time to dispel the rumour surrounding lovemaking being over too quick.

Get down to it around 0059 and 45 seconds and bingo it should last over an hour. :D

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Hey, he threw his balls into the discussion, I merely ran with it :erm:.

Anyway, back onto topic.

I personally think we should not change every year. Surely if we change to BST for the whole year, it would be better. Kids would be more likely to go to school in the light, and there would be fewer road accidents in the morning (which is the busiest time for most roads and forms of transport).

It would mean more people come home in the dark though..

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Err, THIS 'southern jessie' is a WELSHMAN - with deep family roots in Anglesey. May not live there now but I can (just) see it on a clear day. Where the ** is Balamory? It is not listed in Autoroute! :confused:

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/balamory/

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OOPS - shows just how much TV I watch :o :o
Anyway - my 'kids' are now in their 30s and near 18 so CBees either passed them by or are just not cool.

Cheers

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hmmm have deficiencies in your life? ;)

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But you're getting mixed up, BST makes it darker in the morning, not the other way round. Darker mornings cause more road accidents than darker evenings.

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lol no an 18 month old who's already got a favourite TV programme :D

Incidentally it's filmed in Tobermory, on the Isle of Mull. I'm from the Wirral, but currently living in Hemel Hempstead surrounded by soft southerners. ;) ;) ;) ;)

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If towny's in Scotland, then you're a Southerner compared to him..


Anyway, as a Southerner (and damned proud of it), I would have to say most of the Jessie's I have met have been from North of the border. :D

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Hang on. Got confused. Maybe it would be better if we all stuck to GMT. After all, I was aiming for lighter mornings (for the reason you stated).

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Not in Scotland yet, you soft southerner - hoping to move later this year :D ;)

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It would make sense but as I said earlier that would mean a midnight sunset during mid-summer, and im sure just as many people would be complaining about that.

At least I think it would. Slightly :notopic: Im rather tired and packing my bags at the moment to go painballing tomorrow so I cant get my head arround working out the Difference between GMT & BST :D , I think I got it right though ;) .

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You should get some better padded clothing, then...! :D

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Damn, it happens at 1am too.
Forget about the less time in bed - what about those of us who have one less hour when we're out on Saturday? :cry:

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Whenever I've been in clubs when it changes over, that club has always gone on until 3, so we've always had the same amount of time :shrug:

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Ah but what about all those on shiftwork who get to do an hours less work :)

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As a point of historical interest, the UK had double summertime, ie the clocks were put forward 2 hours in summer, during WWII. I think normal summertime was used for the rest of the year.

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This is always my favourite time of year. It means that beer gardens are coming back. Oh yeah

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But still a bit chilly for sitting outdoors. I think I'll leave the patio furniture in the garage for another couple of weeks.

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Everyone remebered to put em forword? 1 hour closer to work :'(

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yep did it at 6:36 pm any how a hate this so called "British summer time":mad:
why must we go through this silly thing every year i say keep the clocks
the same time all year round

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happy British summer time every body!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Eh....the forum's clock has gone *back* an hour rather than forward :confused:

My PC & watch say it's now 02:10, but CF says it's 00:10...


EDIT: Ah, the forum clock is correct now :)

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lol am getting the same thing

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Yeah, LOL.

It's fixed now though (well, it is for me)

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how did you do that :confused: it's still 00 for me

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I went into my UserCP profile options, & checked what time zone it was on (GMT, with Daylight Saving on Automatic).

But I didn't change anything though :confused:

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lol what a time travel adventure that was I’ve been both
forwards and backwards in time and all with out leveing the
forum :Yikes:

it's fix now :tu:

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Thanks.

And I'm not going to ask why the "My documents" folder on your desk top shows the Playboy Bunny...!! :naughty:

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Generally he gets up around 6am anyway :) - I'll be at work so the missus wull be getting him up.

....just as a side note... Work phoned me yesterday to make sure I knew the clocks were changing today.

Still I made sure I caught up on my missing hour at work with a nice nap :D