U.S Election 2020
Thread for the U.S Election 2020.
This is the thread to talk about the candidates, the election, polling and the aftermath of President-Elect Kayne West's shock 50 state sweep. The election is on November 3, 2020. Trump is the Republican Nominee and Biden is the presumptive Democratic Nominee. The current state of the polling is here: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6247.html |
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The risk for the Democrats is that they will fall back on smug complacency, as they are wont to do when faced with an opponent they assume everyone can see is unsuitable for the presidency. Al Gore v George Bush is a relatively recent example.
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We've been here before so we're treating polls with skepticism. But Biden is ahead of where Clinton was in national polling but also even further ahead of her in the swing state polling. If it wasn't for the example of 2016 people would be calling it now. Biden will hopefully not make the same mistakes as Clinton and visit the industral states. He is more popular in Michigan because of his assoication with the auto-bailout in 2008. ---------- Post added at 11:42 ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 ---------- Quote:
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And Biden now becoming the official Democrat Nominee, he will be in the Televised Presidential debates, head-to-head with Trump, there is usually 3 debates. Each one is going to be serious prime time tv around the world!
Especially when the hostilities between them have been quite severe... Biden once said he'd have been the type to Punch the bully boy Trump, behind the sports hall. Trump came back with the infamous rebuttal.... https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1594205999 |
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If it was a proper fight, I'd have money on a Trump win with a knockout 2cnd round.
Pity it's just peacock posturing, a promoter could make a fortune |
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To be honest, I think most Americans have a screw loose.
I don't have a problem with the concept of complete nutters trying to enter politics (monster raving loony party lol), but when those nutters seriously expect to win and are considered a genuine choice by the people and media. . . . yeah, ok :shocked: |
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The Presidency is odd because you don't have all the hassle a Prime Minister has in working your way up through a party structure. I prefer our system as no PM can get to that position without getting selected by a local party or the party establishment to become an MP (decent chance of a nutter getting though), getting selected by the Parliamentary Party (low chance of a nutter getting though) and getting selected by the membership to lead the party (extremely high chance of a nutter).
If you have the money you can railroad the party establishment a lot easier in the United States although it's still hard. Trump is a rare exception. Obama wasn't the establishment choice at first but he wasn't unpopular with the DNC either. |
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He had a new single/album out, this was obviously a publicity stunt.
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Best thing Trump could do is fire himself, he's done it to everyone else. Maybe he might realise who the problem is...
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Trailing in the polls is an hilarious line. He was trailing Hillary in 2016, yet he still won more States.
With Sleepy Joe Biden, making gaffe after gaffe, forgetting his words nearly every sentence. Trump should easily walk himself back in to victory. |
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Biden goes on a tangent that makes absolute no sense and there is an absolute treasure trove of video evidence of it and he consistently forgets what he's saying, forgets what State he's in. Sky News Austrailia have even discussed he has serious cognitive issues that cannot be ignored:- |
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He's American, you can't expect him to be fluent in English ;)
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Republican National Conference 2020 in Jacksonville, Florida, called off.
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Have you got any real evidence apart from what Donald says?. |
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He's desperate and losing. |
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Also - He cannot lose something that has not yet taken place. November 3rd is the day. :dunce: Democrats seriously need to up their game, they've backed yet another disaster for a presidential candidate. Yesterday, Biden could not even remember where he was again, then paused mid sentence, staring in to space. Trump has nothing to worry about. |
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If the polls are wrong by the same amount, 1-2%, then Biden wins. If the polls are wrong but double the amount as last time then Biden wins even if his current polling lead halves. Of course last time we thought Clinton was going to win and there is a long way to go. Trump is currently behind though. |
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Why is he begging for the the election to be delayed then? Hardly the actions of a confident winner. He doesn't look or act 'compos mentis' himself. You're right, Biden isn't the most inspirational candidate, but as long as he isn't Donald that'll will be enough. At least he is taking climate change seriously, by far the biggest threat facing the World. |
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Is Biden competent to vote in an election or does someone have power of attorney over him so they can vote in his stead, any hoo a vote for him is just a vote for his vice president cos he'll be retired off after a month in office, lets hope he doesn't trigger a war in vietnam or cambodia or somewhere from the days before he went senile before they send him to the old folks home.
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Even if the election was delayed, any President’s term of office ends 4 years after their inauguration (unless they are re-elected).
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Can some mod kindly resize Mr K's attatchment?
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I have to say I didn't understand the postal vote helping Democrats thing. Postals votes here tend to be for the elderly and the rural, who are more likely to vote Conservative/Republican.
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Well, I wonder if this guy is right. He has a good record after all. Oh and he collabarated with a Russian to come up with his predictive system.
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So I can safely nip out to the bookies and put a wedge on Biden? |
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Biden's a bit too creepy and 'hands on' for my liking.
Is that the best the US has to offer, 2 people that aren't mentally all there to run the country. Crazy place... |
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The issue in America isn’t the presidency, it’s congress, the constant stale mating between each party prevents the actual job of one of the branches of government. Just recently, Republicans wanted to issue more money to every American, the pathetic Democrats voted it down, you got idiotic and drunken looking Pelosi parading in her multi million dollar mansion, showing her large buckets of Ice cream collection, while in her own district, becomes a complete shit hole. But we’ve got used to Trump over last four years. He reacts more, says daft things and I’d rather have who we already know, Biden has serious cognitive issues. Gaff after gaff, he’s the biggest gift to Trump’s second term. The polls mean jack shit to me, given they said Crooked Hillary was going to win. |
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Mick's highlighted some structural problems with the US consttiution which are interesting. But the correction of fake news is hitting Trump where it hurts, in social media and Covid-19 has been mishandled from the top.
I think this is why pollsters who correctly predicted Trump's victory in the last election are now predicting that Biden will win. Personally, I would have liked to have seen a younger candidate but I think Biden will be less disruptive to world trade and security though as Mick says, Trump is the devil you know, albeit an unpredictable one. |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-homelessness/ Then again Maggy, you wanted a Corbyn led government, so I'll pass on your judgement about what you think would pass for good leadership qualities, you were quite happy to bring in socialism in this country and totally ruin it, go look up Venezuela and do some research for gods sake. Trump, is not more of a liability than Biden would be, so you are completely wrong Maggy. Go look at the record of Biden over the last decades, go look at Democrat run cities, before you pipe up about who would be worse. You're absolutely in the TDS group for sure. I mean I've totally agreed that Trump says the most stupidest of things but I do not have a complete hatred for someone as deep as yours goes for Trump, so much so that you would prefer someone far worse than Trump would be as president, which is totally the wrong attitude to have. ---------- Post added at 14:14 ---------- Previous post was at 13:57 ---------- Quote:
Btw, Biden lied in this interview, he has said before today that he has daily cognitive tests and would have tests and now he saying why the hell does he need to have a test. |
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The debates are going to be worth watching! Personally I don't think Biden was the best choice for the Dems.
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Given the choice between those two, I'd guess a one way ticket to Venezuela is a decent option ;)
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Yet again, it's the usual Trump man bad, with a ignorant attitude of anyone would be better than Trump, you have absolutely no idea how bad Biden would be because you've clearly done no research in to Biden's past. Go look up his past record as a Senator and then come back to me and tell me how he would be better as president, absolutely nothing stands out to what Biden has done in 40 years in Washington that's made any real difference...?? Lets see bits of the controversial stuff:-
So you have BLM and the hard left ripping down Statues of former presidents which owned slaves, yet they seem to want to settle with Biden with historical traits which seem to match the very people BLM now oppose. Go figure. :rolleyes: |
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Biden's said today "Unlike the African American Community ... the Latino Community Is an Incredibly Diverse Community." And yes, holy shit he said that. |
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The latino community on the other hand is made up of Mexicans, Chileans, Venusualiansl Argentinians etc, etc. |
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He said Latino's are more diverse, with different attitudes, towards different things, key word is "Unlike African Americans" |
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Apparently one of the reasons for 'African Americans' as a term is they don't know the original country their ancestors came from.
I find the hyphenated identity thing in America quite odd. People are 'Italian-American' or 'Irish-American' many generations after their predecessors immigrated to the point that I would feel the term is sort of useless? Compare that with here were anyone 2nd generation onwards is usually 'British' even if they keep some identification/dual nationality with the country from which their parents or grandparents immigrated from. |
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Meanwhile Biden is apparently anti God, anti bible and anti guns.(not verbatim) https://twitter.com/Breaking911/stat...33650991632389 BTW Biden is a practicing Catholic. Trump does not appear to practice any religious faith. |
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This HHGTTG quote sums up Trump
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Climate change is the biggest threat facing the world. The virus is a minor hiccup in comparison. It may already be too late, but if Tango man is re-elected then we've no hope. |
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We say "British", we know that means British men and women - Latino means Hispanic men (literally translated). In other news, apparently Biden will hurt the Bible and hurt God... |
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Biden is a rubbish candidate. I would rather he wins than Trump but that's literally the only enthusiasm I have for the man. Certainly not minded to defend his idiotic comments.
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I think today's candidates tick far fewer of these boxes. |
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BREAKING: U.S President Donald Trump escorted out of Press briefing by Secret Service as active shooter near White House is shot by law enforcement.
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Ooft....
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Good, serves him right. |
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