Government & Post Election Discussion
So far it seems a somewhat watered down affair.
Nothing really very controversial, quite a few welcome (IMO) changes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40339564 |
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"Smart Meter Bill
..... puts consumers in control of their energy use, helping them understand their energy and bills, bringing an end to estimated billing and transforming the experience of pre-paying customers ..... protects the operation of the national data and communication service to safeguard smart services at all times ..... ensure smart meters will be offered to every household and business by the end of 2020 ..... introduce a Special Administrative Regime, which will provide insurance for the national smart meter infrastructure in the unlikely event that the company responsible for it becomes insolvent" |
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We maybe better off without as our solar panel export is assumed to be 50% so if we use more than that we are even more pennies in. If we use less though we are worse off, hence we use most heavy electricals in morning when panels are at max.
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It's great the Corbyn and McDonnell are so pro the police, just a bit odd that they don't seem to mind stirring up tensions for 'demonstrations' like the Day of Rage in which the police are once again going to be in the front line for any violence meted our by the loony lefties. When McDonnell boasted about 'the best of our movement kicking the **** out of Millbank' during the London riots who does he think was put at most at risk I wonder. The police!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEuKBxdyy-Q The 'best of our movement'? Angry, violent, thugs? Really? It's really quite bizarre that anyone could vote for dangerous hypocrites like this. |
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It was a rubbish speech; no jokes or anecdotes at all. And she didn't toast the bridesmaids...
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At least we can see where Jeremy Corbyn's priorities lie..... and it ain't with Veterans of our Armed forces, bloody traitor. :rolleyes: #NotPrimeMinisterMaterial
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I think it's all getting a bit (more) cultish around Corbyn but can't really see what there is to object too about him going to Glastonbury (other than the cult aspect). Some are repeating the mistakes that Remain made by being deaf to the concerns of other demographics, I.e the young.
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Corbyn even had the audacity to post an old picture of himself meeting with veterans whilst he was off having fun at a music festival.
https://order-order.com/2017/06/24/c...lasto-instead/ What a complete and utter disgrace to parliament this guy and his nasty cronies are. |
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Because he went to Glastonbury and not the Armed Forces Day? Is the latter a thing it's customary for the leader of the opposition to attend? I really don't see that as a disgrace or nasty. If he didn't turn up to remembrance day that would be something else entirely.
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And you mean foolish ventures that Labour sent some on and to their deaths on an illegal war! :rolleyes: |
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Sorry Damien but he does seem to have a lot of disdain for our armed forces and he was invited to that event in Liverpool, to not go is a snub. He is a nasty piece of work, and he has cronies for friends, aka Abbott and McDonnell, who relished British defeat and even honour the enemy bombs and bullets against our soldiers during the bloody IRA era, that is unforgivable IMO. |
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But I think this specific incidence is a bit manufactured to be honest. I don't think it's customary for opposition leaders to attend the Armed Forces Day event especially as this is a relatively recent initiative. I can't find much information though on whose attended in the past. |
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Yes the Strong and Stable phrase will probably go on her epitaph when she leaves politics and dies sometime in the future as it was a complete and utter disaster and that's her own supporters saying that. |
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Seems to be very close to the previous tory 2015 manifesto which makes the whole election pointless.
They dropped what I think was their best policy of capping energy prices. |
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Politicians only appreciate the armed forces when they want to use them and then expect to be able to prat around with the defence budget and interfere in appropriations whilst forgetting about the people. Whilst our loses in the official wars should always be remembered and honoured it would be nice if a means to pay tribute to the special and covert services personnel that die in between the public wars could happen. Those people are no less of a loss but rarely get mentioned or honoured even their funerals are treated almost like dirty secrets.
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* The DUP will support the Tories on all Brexit and security legislation * The UK's 2% Nato defence spending target will continue to be met * Cash support for farmers will remain at current levels until the next election * Both parties to adhere to commitments in Good Friday Agreement * No Irish border poll without "consent of the people There is also no agreement that they will support the government on any other policies other than those covered in the agreement. |
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No sure they will be many other policies given the governments weakened position in parliament.
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May is extremely lucky that Corbyn is leader, I do not buy this sudden surge in popularity and I do not buy that there is complete harmony within Labour ranks. My mates daughter was there at Glastonbury at the weekend and she said when Corbyn appeared on stage, he appeared absolutely cringe worthy, it was like an old uncle getting up to sing and dance at a wedding. My friend asked his daughter, he hope she did not take his crap in, she said no way. She said most will have been too stoned to care or remember what he said any way. |
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The £1bn hasn't been lost either - it's going to be spent on things in a part of the UK which I'd have thought those who've been whining constantly about austerity ought to be pleased about unless it's only their areas they want to have investment in... Incidentally I'm not moaning about a photo, I'm pointing out Corbyn's utter hypocrisy when it comes to our armed forces. That has nothing to do with the PM or the Tories, it has to do with him being a nasty hypocrite who has plenty of previous when it comes to being offensive and I'm going to continue pointing that out whenever I want to. Quote:
https://order-order.com/2017/06/26/l...eland-in-2010/ Well we didn't really need to wonder at all did we. Labour have long perfected the art of saying one thing whilst doing another. The we have the shadow chancellor claiming the Grenfell House victims were murdered. https://order-order.com/2017/06/26/m...were-murdered/ This guy is a complete loony who just can't help himself. We're in the midst of a complex legal investigation and he thinks it's OK to start bandying terms like that around. |
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this tweet so true
Fiona Rutherford Verified account @Fi_Rutherford 4h 4 hours ago Theresa May to a nurse who hasn't had a pay rise in 8yrs: "there's no magic money tree" May to DUP: Here's £1.5 billion so I can keep my job |
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It was 1 Billion, not 1.5 ;)
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£1.2 billion were the hell is this money going to come from I wonder... Stuff the DUP.
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Under the agreement, about £1bn in "new money" has been earmarked for Northern Ireland, as well as greater flexibility over £500m already allocated to the country. http://news.sky.com/story/dup-and-co...-deal-10927704 |
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I will tell you where this money is going to come from to fund the 1Billion quid bung.
TM will hit the welfare budget at the next opportunity. She will insist that the pay freezes stays for the essential services. She will squeeze local governments again. I wasn't a great fan of Corbyn, but l can see another election coming before the end of this year. Plus a leadership challenge for TM. And l can just think of what will happen if they need a vote in the commons. Sinn Fein who don't normally got to Parliament. They will turn up just to vote against any vote. We already have Wales and Scotland going barmy over this deal. And l think you can goodbye to the Good Friday Agreement. |
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Interesting how when May's spending money it's bribery but when Corbyn's cronies are promising huge spending in order to get votes that isn't bribery at all... :rolleyes:
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As I have said elsewhere and in threads on here, money can always be found if the motivation is for it to be found, but of course the tories will now have to deal with the money tree jokes given what they were claiming about labours manifesto.
With the triple lock staying, winter fuel payments staying, pensioners can be happy their favouritism continues but as I said, it means the election was pointless, the agreed policies are in line with what cameron had in his 2015 pledges. Also from what was posted in this thread the DUP are only going to back brexit and security votes? this will be a testing 5 years much more than the lib dem coalition. ---------- Post added at 21:59 ---------- Previous post was at 21:55 ---------- Quote:
Corbyn knew the tories have the pensioners sewn up although he tried to get them anyway with his triple lock promise, however the young were fair game, so his sweetener to them was the tuition fees issue. Other parts of his policies were just for the good of the country such as social housing and public services investment. The tories probably have had the largest share of vote a minority government has ever had, and labour may also have the largest share of vote a losing party has ever had, as both achieved good results, the key thing to take from the election tho is the shift in voting intentions, currently the tories are been propped up by the over 60s, all other age groups are not favouring the tories, it was a generation battle election. |
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The Tory press don't like the DUP deal:
The Sun: Theresa May faces fury as deal with the DUP to stay in power could cost British taxpayers £24BILLION The Telegraph: DUP deal to prop up minority Tory Government set to cost billions as party hints it will be 'back for more' |
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I dont know if the sun's figures are accurate but yeah we have to remember its not just the 1 billion funding for NI, but also the cost of the pension giveaways.
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money well spent Labour would just give it to work shy scroungers er i mean their core voters .
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Queenie didn't mention this in her speech, most have slipped one's mind. 8% for the Queen, 1% for the plebs. Seems this magic money tree that we don't have keeps on giving..... |
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DUP deputy leader shames Jeremy Corbyn and Nicola Sturgeon after Tory deal criticism
DEMOCRATIC Unionist Party deputy leader Nigel Dodds embarrassed Jeremy Corbyn and Nicola Sturgeon as he revealed talks with the Labour party and SNP took place after the last two general elections To laughter in the House, he said: “We commit to transparency. We are fairly open to that and some day, I beg to think we might publish all of the correspondence and conversations we had in 2010 with the Labour front bench and in 2015 with the Labour front bench and indeed with the SNP as well. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/821...-arlene-foster |
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You can be sure they'll be back for more soon. |
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You have other EU membership countries paying next to nothing and getting more back than it contributes, there is 18 countries that are being piggy backed, yet we and 9 other members get fleeced regardless. They have opened the door to countries that offer nothing, but come with cap in hand when the going gets tough. :rolleyes: If you was in a club and you had members getting all the benefits you are, but they are not paying what you are, you would soon get pissed off. |
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I saw what papa said about membership fee and I just thought watch someone quite pathetically throw the argument about the 'suggestion' of the 350 Million going to NHS and here we are. :rolleyes: |
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Can't wait for some votes in Parliament, it's not like Tory backbenchers to be trouble. Some of the remainer Tories are threatening to join Labour on Brexit votes, it'd only take a few. I certainly think foxes can sleep easier ;) I've put BBC Parliament down as one of my favourites, should be fun, much better than poxy Sky Atlantic anyway :D |
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Let see, the new Govt's policies :- Retention of the triple lock (Labour policy) Retention of winter fuel payments for all Oaps (Labour Policy) Capping utility bills (Ed Miliband's idea from the last Labour manifesto ! ) grammar schools (now not happening) Free school meals (now being kept) Fox hunting (err, forgotten about) etc etc. |
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No I have not read it, I will answer you, as I answered Ianch, when he asked me this. Never heard of reviews? :rolleyes: In other disgusting news. The absolute disgusting mess left by the young at Glastonbury at the weekend, where Corbyn mocked President Trump, for leaving the Paris Accord climate change etc and the crowd chanting in agreement and then they leave all their filth at the site. Friends of the Earth my arse! :afire: We the older generation, meant to respect the young and their future. Yeah sure. Dirty disgusting pigs, if these are the future generation then we are FUBAR.. :mad: http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/26/epic-c...close-6734510/ |
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As for just going on other peoples 'reviews' of the Labour manifesto, they could be Fake reviews/news Mick and I know how mad all that Fake stuff that makes you ! :D |
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I'm highlighting the massive hypocrisy, that we had Corbyn preaching his BS at the weekend at Glastonbury, him mocking Trump for leaving Paris accord and then his young disciples leave their filth and crap scattered about the fields in a truely hypocritical fashion. Most of them would probably join a protest for saving the Earth but it's ok, if they leave their filth. :rolleyes: Care to comment on the young leaving their crap about Mr K, you care about the Earth a great deal, just as much as I do, as it should be with everyone. So the younger generation that you preach about, leaving their crap like that, does it not bother you ? |
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I would also point out people aren't hypocrites because of the actions of people in their cohort. Corbyn would be a hypocrite if he littered. Young people who are passionate advocates of the environment, an advocacy which is not universally shared by young people nor limited to them, aren't hypocrites because other young people have littered as Glastonbury. There will certainly be people professing to care about the environment who are in part responsible for the mess left this week and those people would indeed by hypocrites. |
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