F1 2020 Season Thread
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Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton #44 - Valtteri Bottas #77 Ferrari Sebastian Vettel #5 - Charles Leclerc #16 Red Bull Alex Albon #23 - Max Verstappen #33 McLaren Lando Norris #4 - Carlos Sainz #55 Renault Daniel Ricciardo #3 - Esteban Ocon #31 AlphaTauri(Toro Rosso) Pierre Gasly #10 - Daniil Kvyat #26 Racing Point Sergio Perez #11 - Lance Stroll #18 Alfa Romeo Kimi Raikkonen #7 - Antonio Giovinazzi #99 Haas Romain Grosjean #8 - Kevin Magnussen #20 Williams George Russell #63 - Nicholas Latifi #TBC Pre Season Testing Test 1 19-21 FEB Barcelona Test 2 26-28 FEB Barcelona 2020 RACE CALENDAR - 22 Races 1 15 MAR AUSTRALIA Melbourne 2 22 MAR BAHRAIN Sakhir 3 5 APR VIETNAM Hanoi 4 19 APR CHINA Shanghai 5 3 MAY NETHERLANDS Zandvoort 6 10 MAY SPAIN Barcelona 7 24 MAY MONACO Monte Carlo 8 7 JUN AZERBAIJAN Baku 9 14 JUN CANADA Montreal 10 28 JUN FRANCE Le Castellet 11 5 JUL AUSTRIA Spielberg 12 19 JUL GREAT BRITAIN Silverstone 13 2 AUG HUNGARY Budapest 14 30 AUG BELGIUM Spa-Francorchamps 15 6 SEP ITALY Monza 16 20 SEP SINGAPORE Singapore 17 27 SEP RUSSIA Sochi 18 11 OCT JAPAN Suzuka 19 25 OCT UNITED STATES Austin 20 1 NOV MEXICO CITY Mexico City 21 15 NOV BRAZIL Sao Paulo 22 29 NOV ABU DHABI Yas Island |
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Hopefully history will be made this coming season if you understand my drift.:)
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Big row erupts after the FIA reached a private settlement with Ferrari regarding their 2019 engine.
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...ant-disclosure |
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Looking at booking tickets for the Hungary GP in August - just working out final numbers to see how big an AirBnB we need.
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We have travel insurance included in our House & Contents insurance, and I checked with them about this (and the fact we are flying out tomorrow to the USA...). |
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If CV turns out as bad as predicted expect events to be cancelled.
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I think Hughs going to the Hungarian Grandprix! |
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I expect Vietnam to be behind closed doors or posponed.
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The way things are going most races will be or even cancelled.
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Suspending a few races on an already time restricted calendar isn't feasible. So cancellation or no spectators is highly likely. The financial implications of such measures are pretty dire.
Ultimately with F1, it's a touring sport. Arriving at whatever country during whatever time line they're in regarding the outbreak. If it just so happens to peak at the time they're due to race in each country then the effects could be fairly catastrophic for this season. |
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McLaren out of Australian Grand Prix after team member tests positive i wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing get cancelled.
2 members of the Haas team ALSO have the virus! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51849163 |
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Australian GP cancelled.
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My dad said something about Vietnam following suit.
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I expect the whole season, I can't imagine them doing only 1/2 a season.
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It's beginning to look like there's potential for the entire season to be scrapped. As above, we're gonna see virus peaks at different times across the calendar.
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Well I did say last week...
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can't happen far too much money at risk and we are talking billoins. |
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Try repeating that to the world markets and the sports of Football and Basketball that are grinding to halt and are worth infinitely more than Formula One. There's nothing to be done. Hold non championship races in front of no spectators. The financial loss is still there.
Also as of yet there's no cancellation. There's very much activity in Australia. Feeling the US 2005 Gp vibe coming on. ---------- Post added at 22:19 ---------- Previous post was at 21:46 ---------- Follow up: That's basically that then, confirmation that if F1 push ahead with a race this weekend, spectators will be banned. Add that in with a source that on top of McLaren being out, Kimi and Seb have allegedly already left. Daft that it's taking this long, pretty poor from Australia and just as poor from F1 given there's currently spectators surrounding the place. Same source is now claiming that Alfa Romeo, Haas, Racing Point, Williams, AlphaTauri are the only teams that have prepared for a race and that all others are refusing or have accepted cancellation. There was a vote overnight that tallied 5-5, the 5 in favour being above and the latter 5 have refused to participate. https://streamable.com/59nmm ---------- Post added at 22:41 ---------- Previous post was at 22:19 ---------- Source was correct, now confirmed that both Kimi and Seb left earlier. Now we're officially done. |
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Bahrain and Vietnam Grand Prix set to be cancelled today. The earliest F1 will resume is May at the Dutch Grand Prix.
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Gutted no F1 until at least May.
I ran about like a mad man on Wednesday complete the F1Dream Team for my work. |
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Season cancellation will be dependent on peaks in various countries with the added detriment of where the teams travel from.
The same sources as last night are putting the most realistic starting date as June in Baku, they've been told that by senior F1 officials, I'm more inclined to believe them given they were fairly bang on with what was unfolding in Australia yesterday. Again that's dependent on numerous factors and as already suggested it could just as easy be July. The basis of all of it is the assumption and hope that all of the countries on the calendar hit peak with virus and start to trend downwards in the coming two to three months. Obviously the issue is that not everywhere is on the same timeline of events. An idea I've seen touted about is the potential to revisit the postponed tracks if they're doing alright by the time the seasons kicks off. I.e going back to Australia because Baku isn't doable. |
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The season cannot be cancelled.
The amount of money involved if F1 is billions. Look at all the small companies that support bigger companies. |
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The whole season will be cancelled very soon i think.
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Not necessarily. It could be cancelled on a race by race basis. I'm already hearing Baku is no longer doable. Still hearing the prospect of going back to start in Australia and even China if they're ready. They're not going to announce any entire cancellation until we're at least halfway through the potential calendar.
As detailed in previous posts, different countries and their peaks will play a huge part in this before you start factoring in travel, individuals with a positive test, drivers and so forth. Best case scenario is a half season really. Also let's not bring 'the billions involved means this can't be cancelled back' Covid-19 doesn't seem to care about that. It's a dumb argument. Numerous sports that gross ten times more than F1 do have already lost said billions. |
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Baku is off officially. As per above post, the sources in my previous post were the same as the ones that had early information on teams leaving Australia early. They've been 100% bang on so far. Lost track of them but trying to find any new information they've dropped. The information provided for Baku was that several F1 members had their visa revoked in the past two weeks.
Edit: Information appears to be coming from a senior F1 official that's tipping off journalists. Bahrain Vietnam China Singapore Russia Japan Abu Dhabi Are all the most likely to go ahead. 8 needed to have a championship season. Canada looking as unlikely as Baku did a few days ago. Still with the idea of revisiting fixed circuits later in the season if the above races can get going early enough. |
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I wouldn't bank on it.
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RIP Stirling Moss.☹️
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Awaiting confirmation that the French GP is cancelled.
An unverified source has been leaking information from the garages that they're not expecting to race at all in 2020. There's now suggestion that Haas, Alfa and a few others will undoubtedly go under if that be the scenario. Renault are considering pulling out earlier and Redbull are weighing up the viability of running two teams. In simpler terms, this is fairly dire for the sport. Russia was one of the supposed guarantees to run but the situation has changed there and even Putin is starting to cave in to the reality. I can imagine they'd still want to run but it's a certain that teams will refuse to race in unsafe countries. |
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Their plan hasn't changed really. I'm not sure they actually know what they're doing. At the minute it's await cancellation of 'Next GP' and then release a statement saying we plan to start the season at the GP that follows the cancelled one.
One thing is absolutely certain that they're evidently in absolute denial about and that's if they do manage to get a GP to go ahead, there's absolutely no chance of any fan presence. Another issue is simply getting the teams on board. The sheer amount of people needed to make F1 work causes problems. Even without spectators it's basically a private mass gathering. Any sign or risk of infection within a team and they'll pull out. Vettel and Kimi already made it clear in Australia that they had little interest in entertaining this possibility. |
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Sebastian Vettel to leave Ferrari at the end of the Formula 1 season.
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Surprised he's not retiring.
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Carlos Sainz to join Ferrari for the 2021 F1 season to replace Sebastian Vettel who is leaving at the end of this season.
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...bastian-vettel |
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Glad to see Ricciardo moving to a Mercedes powered McLaren next season.
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Silverstone set to hold two races after agreeing F1 terms but quarantine questions remain.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...09a8e3d2fd34c0
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That's a thumbs up from me.:tu:
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The Formula 1 2020 season is expected to start With Austria in July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/52860575 |
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British GP now 2nd and 9th August
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Williams Formula 1 team and wider group up for sale.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/52847040 Renault to stay in Formula 1 beyond the end of the 2020 season despite job losses. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/52844318 |
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The Japanese, Singapore and Azerbaijan Grands Prix have been cancelled because of the coronavirus pandemic.
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Just how unlucky can one man be, wishing him well for a speedy recovery.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/alex-...handbike-crash |
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Formula 1 returns today with the Austrian GP qualifying kicking off at 13:55.
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And Red Bull’s complaint about the DAS steering gizmo on the Mercs has been thrown out.;)
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That is a good start.:D
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Now i have to find a good quality stream to watch it on!
---------- Post added at 10:30 ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 ---------- Ferrari are likely to be very poor this season if what we have seen so far is anything to go by, hopefully Vettel will get over shadowed by Leclerc again and i can't see Vettel getting a drive in 2021, atleast not with a top team. |
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Don’t you have Sky Sports SnoopZ?
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Ferrari are shocking!
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Hamilton Shafted again.
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Bit daft you can effectively end someone's race and get away with 5 seconds off your time. Mercedes fan, Hamilton fan but he's entirely at fault for that. He either yields like he should have or one of two things happen. Albon goes straight on into the gravel or he follows the racing line and gets clipped by the front of Hamilton. Both are effectively on Lewis.
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Split second before contact, Hamilton is moving across the track even if he can't help it it is still his fault. https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1593967860 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHBgQw5OecA |
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He was most definitely at fault sadly.
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I disagree that Hamilton was at fault. At the start or just before the incident, Hamilton was infront. Going into the beginning of the corner, Hamilton now has the racing line and they are level. In the middle of the corner, Albon is slightly ahead. This is now far too late for either driver to back out. At the end of the corner and from the picture posted above, while there is little room, there is still room and a cars width. The on board shot of Hamilton shows that he maintained the same steering angle throughout the corner.
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Just before the contact, there was plenty of room on Hamilton's side. Also if Albon had enough space, how come Hamilton still ended up very near the outside edge of the track? If a driver is ahead of you(more than half a cars length?), then the "racing line" is immaterial, you have to yield.
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Hamilton knew it was coming, because Albon had tried it at the previous corner. Once you've been passed, the racing line is irrelevant. You have to defer to the driver now in front of you. Hamilton should've gone slightly to his right to avoid the collision. Plenty of room to do so. There was no room for Albon to move left, as can be seen by the fact his left front wheel was inches away from the kerb at the moment of collision. Hamilton had 2 car widths to his right.
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If he knew there was a car on the outside then Hamilton should of stayed on the inside. It was a good race though, Hamilton and Bottas did good to keep 1st and 2nd when both couldn't even take a proper racing line due to a fault in their cars.
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The "racing line" isn't the only line. If it was there would be no overtaking at all.:rolleyes: On the approach to the corner, Hamilton was inside of the racing line, and Albon was on it. That can be seen by the rubber on the tarmac and the driver in front of them. The fact that Albon was very near the outside kerb, demonstrates he left room for Hamilton. Again, comparing with the driver in front of them, Hamilton pulled away from the inside of the corner at an earlier stage. If that driver could stay close to the inside, why couldn't Hamilton? A few laps later a similar situation at the same corner, with Norris and Leclerc. Leclerc on the inside used these things called brakes.
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While the build up is important, it's rather irrelevant to the incident. As entering the corner Hamilton was infront on the racing line and left enough space for Albon to be on the outside. |
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Just to clarify your bold of moved. What do you think happens during a race? You stay still? The very nature of a car going around a corner is it moves from from the inside to the outside. The on board shot from Hamilton shows he seemed to be on full lock and didn't move the steering wheel to steer to the outside of the track, it was just the natural progression of taking a corner on the racing line. |
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