Batwoman
 

For those waiting for it to air here. Batwoman confirmed to air on E4

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https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/b...020-21-season/

Ruby Rose leaving the series which I think it is hilarious. Why on earth would you renew the series for a second season when you haven't got your lead actor secured in contract? We'll see if they go with a non-PC choice this time.

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Not sure where they've said they didn't. AFAIK even for new shows, the actors are signed to multi-year deal out of gate.

From that article:

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That's a shame and very surprising to me. I mostly enjoyed the show and it's going to be really strange started the second season with a different actress playing the role of Kate Kane. I wonder why they didn't have a mutli series contract for her?

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One article I read mentioned that Ruby injured herself last year on another project. She may be leaving for health reasons.

https://tvline.com/2020/05/19/ruby-r...ason-2-recast/

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True, but does anyone still care ? Its been bleeding viewers.
Its ratings have fallen pretty much every week, almost to 1/3 of when it started.

They wont, and thats one of its problems.
Like most people I soon got bored of the same thing, PC Plugs & BW v Alice.

It seemed more interested in promoting "I'm a lesbain" every week, rather than any good storylines.
I'm sure a minority love that, but you need to please the majority to get & keep major viewing figures

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Its still high for them.

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Average is misleading.
It only has a high average because if its early figures, and its crisis episode.
Its fell away since then, and hasnt had anything like 995,000 viewers (or 0.26) for any episodes in 2020.

(Which is more than half its season, even after that season got cut short).

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https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/bat...it-1234612077/








It's not clear whether they have got new show runners or not. When your ratings tank you can't keep going on as you have been and preaching every week, we get enough of that in Supergirl. It is a superhero series attributed to one of the most biggest and bad ass superheroes of all time so first and foremost you need to ensure you have got a quality series and then you can incorporate other messages once you have got that solid foundation.

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They are not looking to recast the role of Kate Kane which is interesting. I hope they come up with a realistic and plausible role for her departure in the series if they intend to introduce a completely new character to take the reins

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/b...ose-character/

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Except of course she just happens to be lesbian as well.
What are the odds eh ? I'm pretty sure its all the show cares about.
It got boring and preachy in series 1, and sounds like more of the same.

I pretty much gave up on season 1, only watched the last few because there was not much else left to watch.
I'll view the first episode (or two ?) of season 2, just to see how they explain it, after that, I will likely be giving up.

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I have an idea I'll be doing the same as you.

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I haven't watched any yet and I doubt I will. I am getting fed up of DC doing quantity over quality when it comes to the series. I am giving Stargirl one more ep and then I am going to knock it on the head, Pat and the son do my head in.

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This may/may not help you but I find Stargirl preferable to Batwoman. So far I'm willing to give it a couple more episodes to see how it develops. If after 4 it hasn't grabbed me then I'll ditch it.

I had high hopes for Ruby Rose after her performance in Dark Matter but it wasn't to be with Batwoman.

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I didn't know she had been in Dark Matter. Good to know, ta.

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One episode apparently, I dont recall her at all.

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There is no-one who has seen Dark Matter who does not recall "Dunking the cosmic doughnut"! I could be wrong though.

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the only thing keeping going atm is seeing how the JSA story line pans out. If there are any stupid and annoying people in that I'll be leaving it. Pat is all about how many stupid facial expressions he can pull off and it is doing my head in. On a side note though, I picked up on a lot of locations in the first ep. I am 99% sure that the high street in used in their local town is the same as the one in Smallville.



I don't remember that scene at all but to be fair I had no idea who she was until they began promoting Batwoman

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Not really the scene but the episode. How much attention do you give to the storyline?

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I am feeling quite thick atm.

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It happens to us all now and again. join the club. I wonder if Paul has caught up yet?

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That refreshed my memory. I did think she looked familiar at the time, I just didn't put 2+2 together. Thanks for the clips.

The Dark Matter cancellation really annoyed.

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yeah, it was really getting going and I would love to have seen an extra season to wrap things up. Series like this are examples of when I wish I could win the euromillions and fund an additional season.

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Javicia Leslie is the new Batwoman. I wonder how they are going to spin this in?

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/bat...se-1234701651/

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A black lesbian, who would have guessed. :rolleyes: Thats all the show cares about.

Should be fun getting all that hair in the bat suit (or whatever she wears).

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I was going to say the same thing. I think it is sad what things have come to. At the end of the day it shouldn't matter who is cast in a particular role as long as the character they are portraying is a realistic representation. Who cares if the person portraying a gay character isn't gay as long as the performance is believable and they do justice to the character and what they stand for? You wouldn't know otherwise and people win oscars for it ffs. The same can happen in reverse. I am sure there are many many gay actors who play straight characters and we are non the wiser when we see them on tv. I have seen a few articles over the last month or so where celebs/actors have come out saying they are resigning from their current job because they are a white actor voicing a BAME character in an animated series. Who cares? They were obviously very good at it because we couldn't tell the difference, and it shouldn't make any different anyway. It does my head in.

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I think they said the storyline is going to have the Kate go missing and the ongoing story will be to explain why. Though they said Batman is missing, and have yet to make any attempt to say why (at UK pace anyway).

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I watched the latest BatWoman tonight, yet more of the same "police are bad" & lets randomly shoot one of the main black characters for no reason just to rub it in" (since they are one of the main characters, they are probably not dead).

BatWoman's viewing figures dropped badly during season one, from 1.2 million to 740,000 (avg was 995,000) and have tanked even more this season, that last episode hit a new low of just 340,000. I'm on the verge of joining those who have given up, its only really Alice that still keeps me interested in it.

Re: Renewals & Cancellations
 

agree 100% Dunno if I will bother with s3

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Ruby Rose has been flapping her mouth this week ;

Warner Bros said it did not hire Rose for a second season after receiving complaints about her behaviour.

The company described Rose's account as "revisionist history... aimed at the producers, the cast and crew, the network, and the studio".
I dont care much for the show in general atm, but I think Ruby was worse than her replacement.

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I've liked both leads.

WB say "revisionist" but parts of what she's said have always been consistent, and there have been accounts of several crew members getting hurt.

Not saying everything she claims is true, but there appears to some truth to parts of it at least.

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Not just Batwoman. The CW has a history of this.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...r-day-1041899/

As you said there have been other reports of issues and Ruby Rose's account holds up with what has been publically known. You would be more inclined to view it as a 'both sides' thing if it wasn't for the fact that this is far from the first time there have been problems at the CW.

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All these actors are paid plenty so why not get an uber or their own driver. No one is forcing them to drive themselves surely. K.J. Apa from the above link has an estimated net worth of $3 million. They could afford a horse drawn carriage to get them home, their own chef to cook their dinner and someone to massage their feet between takes

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Decided to dump Batwoman from by calendar

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Exactly. Overpaid spoiled brats springs to mind.
If they are that bothered then I'm sure they could arange their own transport.

Ive worked "late hours" for years, and guess what, I had to get myself there and back.

Re: Batwoman
 

I suspect E4 will aswell seeing as they moved it to a midnight slot during S2.

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Turns out E4 are airing S3 from 14th of November at 11:05pm , I wasn't really expecting them to even air it tbh

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Neither was I. They probably got the rights as part of a larger bundle deal. At best Inwas expecting it on 4Music like Supernatural, The Good Place and, from this Friday, The 100 were shunted to.