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There are people of my acquaintance I’d like to share the data with but I’m not going to do it by linking to him because I don’t think you win anyone round by hating on them. Of course he’s not really trying to win anyone round, he’s trying to prove he truly belongs in the club formed of people who he follows/follow him, and express similar, correct views. He’s preaching to the choir and getting off on re-tweets. |
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This article which I posted some time back really brings things home. Many of the co-morbidities are those which are only seen in old age or are more serious in old age.
After about 5 years old, your chances if dying in any particular year will continuously go up due to general diseases. After about 5 years old, the risk if dying of COVID pretty much follows the same path. It probably isn't fair to say that the risk of dying in a particular year is doubled if you get COVID as the severity of co-morbidities will have an effect but the risk of death across the population at any given age is increased by a factor of between 1 and 2 if you get COVID |
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So basically, 17,371 people died just from covid, for the rest - it [possibly] contributed to their death, but they may (or may not) have died anyway - is that about right ?
Doesnt seem like anything new, we have always known that some people classed as dying from the virus may have died anyway, or died in an unrelated manner (e.g. accident). |
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What is an "underlying condition"? Seems to be a convenient but ambiguous coat-hook onto which to hang statistics.
Is an "underlying condition" within the meaning of the death stats a respiratory condition? Does that cover, for example, asthma normally controlled by 4 puffs a day of Fostair? Does it cover people with a stomach ulcer, etc? All too vague for this stage of the pandemic. |
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...isticsjuly2017 Section 9, paragraphs headed "Underlying cause of death versus contributory causes" and "final cause of death". |
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So I don't think it's fair to exclude them from the death tolls. |
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'Never before has so much harm been done to so many by so few... based on dodgy data':
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...modellers.html A blistering verdict on Covid 'experts' from MP BOB SEELY in a landmark speech |
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The significance of what I am saying is that if we don’t count deaths the same way in all countries, we cannot compare how we are all doing. And yet we see people doing just that all the time. |
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I suspect they are counting people who had other health conditions. It would be mad not to do so.
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