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1andrew1 20-09-2018 13:17

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Leaked memo reveals Tory plot to oust Theresa May in APRIL and weighs up chances of rivals jockeying to replace her - writing OFF the chances of Boris, 'fading' Fox and 'no-hoper' Hammond
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politi...BFT?ocid=ientp

OLD BOY 21-09-2018 12:38

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35962840)
This is the huge issue. Staff are stretched to breaking point, whilst the fact they care is abused by TPTB with shifts that are overlong, few if any breaks and more responsibility than they are equipped for.

This is why the NHS needs to become more efficient. The private sector can play a big part in making services work better.

The NHS cannot do that on their own. They have proved that over many years.

denphone 21-09-2018 12:50

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35963872)
This is why the NHS needs to become more efficient. .

More efficient?? when there is nowhere near enough medical professional's on the wards now so much so that even the minimum safety standards are not being met in many hospitals in the UK thus putting patients lives more at risk.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35963872)
The private sector can play a big part in making services work better.

Perhaps you need to visit a few hospitals where you might see the real reality of the private sector at work then you might think differently.

Hugh 21-09-2018 13:09

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35963872)
This is why the NHS needs to become more efficient. The private sector can play a big part in making services work better.

The NHS cannot do that on their own. They have proved that over many years.

As long as it’s not the US model - I have no issues with thecGerman/French model.

Angua 21-09-2018 15:24

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35963875)
As long as it’s not the US model - I have no issues with thecGerman/French model.

Trouble is, the Tories seem to be besotted with the US profit driven system, whilst Labour are wedded to the NHS.

If they looked at something like the German or French systems instead, change might be possible.

denphone 21-09-2018 15:43

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35963896)
Trouble is, the Tories seem to be besotted with the US profit driven system, whilst Labour are wedded to the NHS.

If they looked at something like the German or French systems instead, change might be possible.

Ideological political dogma will never allow that to happen.

OLD BOY 21-09-2018 16:38

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35963875)
As long as it’s not the US model - I have no issues with thecGerman/French model.

That's right, it's up to the Government to set the parameters, and if it is set up correctly, there would be a benefit for patients.

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35963896)
Trouble is, the Tories seem to be besotted with the US profit driven system, whilst Labour are wedded to the NHS.

If they looked at something like the German or French systems instead, change might be possible.

Yes, there is a happy medium.

denphone 02-10-2018 16:59

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Nice to see the PM limiting her interviews with the media.:(

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...b0494d805289a3

Although in the case of our PM a cardboard cut-out might answer the questions equally well.

Mr K 02-10-2018 17:05

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35965191)
Nice to see the PM limiting her interviews with the media.:(

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...b0494d805289a3

Although in the case of our PM a cardboard cut-out might answer the questions equally well.

Now then Den, don't be disrespectful.
(to cardboard cut outs :D)

1andrew1 02-10-2018 22:28

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35965192)
Now then Den, don't be disrespectful.
(to cardboard cut outs :D)

Ha ha. She seems to be taking a cue from across the Atlantic.

denphone 04-10-2018 07:38

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Coservative society suspended.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-45735591

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/new...y-nhs-15232755

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A university Conservative society has been suspended after a photo appearing to show members sporting racist and anti-Semitic messages emerged.
Sadly just like the Labour party prejudice and racism is pretty endemic still in the Conservative party as well.:(

Angua 04-10-2018 07:57

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Looks like the Tory education ministers need to go back to school themselves.

Including parental funding of private fees in their claims for government education spending. Even more confusing, they include university fees paid by students, whilst this funding is technically repayable it should be separate from pre university education funding figures.

1andrew1 04-10-2018 20:17

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35965317)
Coservative society suspended.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-45735591

[url]https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/conservatives-tory-plymouth-university-nhs-15232755[/url

Sadly just like the Labour party prejudice and racism is pretty endemic still in the Conservative party as well.:(

What I would say in the Conservative Party's defence is that they acted quickly with this bunch of undesirables.

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35965318)
Looks like the Tory education ministers need to go back to school themselves.

Including parental funding of private fees in their claims for government education spending. Even more confusing, they include university fees paid by students, whilst this funding is technically repayable it should be separate from pre-university education funding figures.

Very disappointing that they did this. They should be trying to rebuild our trust in politicians, not massaging the books.

richard s 06-10-2018 19:29

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
I suppose these idiots will have to seek membership with the other idiots - UKIP!

1andrew1 06-10-2018 20:25

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
No longer the party of business, the Conservative Party looks set to no longer be the party of sound finance.
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Theresa May’s pledge to end austerity, renew the NHS, freeze fuel duties and increase council house building has left the UK Treasury facing a hole in the public finances of up to £35bn-a-year by the end of the current Parliament.
Further fuel duty freezes in the years ahead could raise that cost to £40bn a year, leaving chancellor Philip Hammond with a big borrowing problem to solve in the Budget on October 29.
https://www.ft.com/content/d4a5a452-...f-ee390057b8c9


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