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Yes so DOGs everywhere now. Sky don't have the non football version on the UK EPG, though they do of course have Pick +1 without football.
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Sky have got the Pick with HD football version and Pick (in SD) with the football. They are now putting HD flags on some programmes on the new version.
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So tomorrow evening (Wed 6.25pm) there is Live Serie A football on .... BoxNation. (Is missing on TiVo as I type)
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Why was this not unblocked for Premier Sports subscribers?
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Boxnation should be in with Premier Sports like it is on Sky.
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It is also part of the BT package on other platforms. When Virgin Media put the main BT channels as part of the Full House package, which is different from other platforms, they kept Boxnation as a separate subscription channel, and one imagines their deal for the channel is from that time.
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Eleven Sports view on distribution of football rights.
https://www.tvbeurope.com/media-deli...f-broadcasting [EXTRACT] "You should be able to get access to a football game as easily as buying an ice cream," said Andrea Radrizzani |
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Interesting he says make availability cheaper which will reduce piracy - I do agree with that However, LUTV fee for games is £10 per game - put up or shut up comes to mind! |
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DAZN is preparing to go global, with a Beta rollout on 24 July. This is going to get interesting.
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...beta-kick-off/ DAZN will resume its international expansion plans on July 24. While not mentioning an official full release date, DAZN sent an email to users who had registered their interest offering “free early access to the new home of fight sports as a Beta Community tester.” The company announced an expansion to more than 200 countries and territories at the beginning of March. This rollout was scheduled to take place on May 2, but this was pushed back as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. Now, with sports starting to resume around the world, DAZN has decided to go again and pull the trigger on a July 24 beta launch to coincide with the Boxing match between Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Samuel Vargas. |
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Have we not been down this brave new world before..;)
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Anyone noticed that when Premier Sport 1 is blocked due to rights on both Sky and their streaming service - VM gets an alternate programme?
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Premier Sport 1 was always the same on Sky and Virgin. But when some RoI programming went out the screen would blank out outside of RoI.
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Yes - but when that programme is airing - Sky is blanked out but VM get an alternate programme.
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I believe there's such a thing as too many Sports channels competing against each other and fans just won't sub to them all. Despite what some say on here the majority of sports fans like to watch their sport on (I do believe they're called) linear channels. I only watched the Premier League games on Amazon prime because I got to see it at no extra cost. I would not be paying to watch as I feel I pay more than enough to Sky and BT already.
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People in this country love watching football, mainly live British football. With the FA Cup becoming completely free to air next year on ITV and the BBC along with the Scottish Cup and Scottish Championship on the BBC and the English and Welsh national teams qualifiers and friendlies live on ITV and S4C respectively households will have access to roughly 70 games of top quality football per year for free. If you like a bit of football that's a bit more exotic Freesports show the Portuguese league, MLS, JLeague, La Liga, Seria A, Danish football and football from Poland. I can't see DAZN making any impact in the first 24 months if they last that long. It's likely they'll join Setanta, ESPN and Eleven Sports RIP |
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Also, a bit of a mis-representation that Serie A and La Liga are in Freesports - yes they are but rarely live, you need to subscribe to Premier Sports for that, the other leagues mentioned are not top quality either. |
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So what is "top quality" then?
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Ive watched a few Scottish Championship and Cup games in my time - not an experience I wish to have anymore. |
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The Head of BT Sports is predicting a correction in the price paid for Premiership football rights. For the sake of sports fans, I hope he's right, as prices have been going in one direction for too long now.
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...head-of-sport/ Speaking to The Guardian, Simon Green predicted that the prices of sports rights will not continue to rise as they have for the past 30 years. He said: “I personally believe that Covid-19 will cause a correction in the markets for television sports rights which will mean the value will not rise as it has done in the past. I think everyone will be more discerning about what they pay given that the country is facing a potential recession which could leave viewers with less money in their pockets.” Interestingly, the article suggests that there will be increasing interest from the streaming services. The league’s next rights cycle – to be auctioned in 2021 – is likely to be one of significant change. Amazon will likely look to increase its share of the rights following a successful first season with more than 20 matches. DAZN may also look to pick up domestic rights as it establishes itself in the UK market, while a lower valued league may lead Premier League CEO Richard Masters to push on with a potential ‘Premflix’ D2C product. (Awaits screams of protest from SVOD deniers...) :D |
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If one repeats the same ad nauseum message without any substantiation of proof which one has for many years then one has to understand that other forum members might well have a differing opinion from yours OB.;):D
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It goes without saying that some will disagree (some for the sake of it) but that should not mean that those who don't go along with my point of view should try to silence the debate. I have posted plenty of material on here to support what I am saying, and you have provided very little. You accuse me of providing no supporting information, but what supporting information for your view have you ever provided? I agree with you that this could go either way, but I have not faltered in my belief that streaming will win in the end. Your 'evidence' is based on the status quo applying forever (which is ridiculous, frankly) and some previous attempts to rock the boat which have ended in failure. That proves nothing. The only 'proof' that you will ever be happy with is when Amazon and/or DAZN make the inroads I have been predicting. But I can hardly do that right now, can I? The bar you are setting me is simply unreasonable. You cannot 'prove' the future. |
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How is DAZN going to take Sky on in the UK football rights ?
Amazon may look to increase its number of games slightly but DAZN I'd be amazed at in the UK. |
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Unless the EPL restructure the packages I cannot see a streamer taking one of the main packages. |
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Once out of the picture, the streaming services will fight amongst themselves. What will this do for prices charged to punters? Well, we will see, but I believe that certainly Amazon, with the advantage of its retail arm, will have tricks up its sleeve to keep prices lower than at present. That will drive subscribers towards Amazon, forcing their competitors to offer similar lower prices. That will reduce the bids for Premiership rights. This may take a few years to play out, but I am convinced that the ultimate impact will be favourable for subscribers. |
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I'm quite sure if Amazon got offered games on the cheap again they'd jump at it. The fact that there is a view that the league might have to resort to selling direct to consumers indicates a low confidence level in streamers digging into those 'deep pockets', and if they did during a recession there'd be a much higher risk to such a business model. |
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Frankly, I cannot understand why you think this is a bad thing. The Amazon footie seems to have gone pretty well. I guess that's because the football fans are not particularly interested in the jfman economic theory. Thank God for choice! |
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You've once again speculated, however not evidenced, that the often hypothesised streaming future brings lower costs to the end user for Premiership football. The fact you've got DAZN, a company with more liabilities than assets, outbidding Sky for the rights under no basis whatsoever means we can safely file most of your posts from today in the fiction section and return from time to time for entertainment value only. |
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Have you seen the Netflix figures? That company will never fly, will it? DAZN? I'm sure it is dead in the water. Any more economic predictions you can entertain us wth before we gst back to reality? ;) |
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I'll continue to await the calculation on how a streamer raises and turns a profit on £5bn for Premiership football rights. I'm sure you'll tell me these people are geniuses, of course, but it was Sky who correctly predicted that none of them would enter the market for the first round of bids in 2019-22 and that the rights would go down in value. What changes in 2022-25, other than the recession? If BT are right that the value of rights falls what makes Sky with it's customer base in place from day 1 less well placed than a streamer? |
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Now TV do a football season pass for about £200 give or take. I find it hard to imagine anyone else can raise £5bn at that price point. You can reverse engineer the figure as you please. A further thought on the Premier League themselves selling direct to customers they might decide against in the event that we end up with more dead rubber closed door games in future seasons. A huge risk to take on retailing that directly. |
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Many years ago, the thought was that you would be able to buy a season ticket to watch your favourite clubs matches (home and away). This never got off the ground - I suspect because they didn't have the tech to do it. Now the streamers have shown you can stream games live all you need is a method of getting payment. advertising the new service would be cheap as they can do it mid game throughout the season - preparing people for the next season. This would blow the streamers out of the water as the content wouldn't be available. |
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Season tickets for clubs would be interesting - and a genuinely new offering so has the potential to attract more customers - although the 3pm blackout (which I profoundly disagree with) remains the problem, but with so few Premiership games actually taking place then would it really be an issue to move the 'main' kick off time to 1pm or a Sunday? The way to league could test demand would be to offer the rest of the games over and above the main contract TV games on their own service for a 3 year period before seeking to take full control themselves. The issue for the League is that while such an offering has potential - the contracts with existing TV companies are no risk money in their hands. |
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SVOD and streaming IS the future, no matter what you believe and no matter what you say. Most people, I am pretty sure, agree with that. |
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It’s you that says linear will cease to exist - I’ve never claimed that streaming won’t be (or isn’t) popular in its own right. No calculations that don’t involve a billionaire philanthropist then? |
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You are at the front of the queue to say how much easier it is to have everything on one box. Why would someone exclude a Sky Q box? If they were going to make the service available from 2022 why would they not make it available in Ultra HD to everyone? |
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They have given it the channel number of Sky Sports Action apparently. One less place for sports that don't have a dedicated channel if it's replacing it.
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Watching Atalanta v PSG on BT Sports, what a farce the sound is about 10 seconds ahead of the video.
Atalanta score, as per commentary - the scorer hasn't even received the ball |
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It was the same on all platforms and an on-air apology was given.
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TiVo is listing both the UEFA Europa League and UEFA Champions' League finals as being free on channel 100.
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Has the picture quality of Sky Sports Mix SD been downgraded in recent months?
The logos, leaderboards and score information are all much more pixelated than I thought they used to be. |
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Rumours are of a bid is in the offing for BT.
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Who can realistically purchase BT?
Comcast AT&T beIN Media Group |
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Liberty Global?
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One things a certainty, it will be a foreign company because they've the only ones with any sort of serious money!
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I'm not sure anyone would by such s big company for the football rights alone -easier to outbid them next time round |
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European Football news Celtic game on Wednesday will be shown on Premier Sports 1 HD Aberdeen game on Thursday will be shown on Premier Sports 1 HD Motherwell game on Thursday will be shown on Premier Sports 2 HD TiVo has still to be updated. Source: https://www.live-footballontv.com/ |
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Ban on screening Saturday 3pm matches to be lifted temporarily.
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I wasn’t aware the 3pm blackout being lifted had been confirmed for this season.
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Confirmed Premier League fixtures on Sky Sports
Sat 12 Sep: Liverpool vs Leeds Utd - 5.30pm Sun 13 Sep: West Brom vs Leicester City - 2pm Sun 13 Sep: Tottenham vs Everton - 4.30pm Mon 14 Sep: Brighton vs Chelsea - 8pm Sat 19 Sep: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace - 5.30pm Sun 20 Sep: Arsenal vs West Ham Utd - 2pm Sun 20 Sep: Chelsea vs Liverpool - 4.30pm Mon 21 Sep: Wolves vs Man City - 8pm Sat 26 Sep: West Brom vs Chelsea - 5.30pm Sun 27 Sep: Fulham vs Aston Villa - 2pm Sun 27 Sep: Man City vs Leicester City - 4.30pm Mon 28 Sep: Liverpool vs Arsenal - 8pm https://www.skysports.com/football/n...2020-21-season BT Sport Fixtures Fulham v Arsenal Saturday 12 September 12.30pm Everton v West Brom Saturday 19 September 12.30pm Southampton v Tottenham Sunday 20 September 12pm Brighton v Man Utd Saturday 26 September 12.30pm Sheffield Utd v Leeds Sunday 27 September 12pm https://www.bt.com/sport/football/pr...-for-september |
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Bit of a schoolboy error by the EPL to not have any fixtures in the 3pm window, no doubt Championship games/Bundesliga/La Liga games will be televised in this time slot for the majority of the season.
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