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ncfc1902 20-06-2020 13:13

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Yes so DOGs everywhere now. Sky don't have the non football version on the UK EPG, though they do of course have Pick +1 without football.

ozsat 20-06-2020 13:31

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Sky have got the Pick with HD football version and Pick (in SD) with the football. They are now putting HD flags on some programmes on the new version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncfc1902 (Post 36040514)
Yes so DOGs everywhere now. Sky don't have the non football version on the UK EPG, though they do of course have Pick +1 without football.


ozsat 23-06-2020 12:10

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So tomorrow evening (Wed 6.25pm) there is Live Serie A football on .... BoxNation. (Is missing on TiVo as I type)

reddog 25-06-2020 16:50

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Why was this not unblocked for Premier Sports subscribers?

reddog 25-06-2020 22:53

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Boxnation should be in with Premier Sports like it is on Sky.

Richardr 26-06-2020 12:42

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It is also part of the BT package on other platforms. When Virgin Media put the main BT channels as part of the Full House package, which is different from other platforms, they kept Boxnation as a separate subscription channel, and one imagines their deal for the channel is from that time.

I would imagine that the next time the deals are renewed, Virgin will do a deal with Premier to include Boxnation, but that could be a while.

OLD BOY 07-07-2020 10:37

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Eleven Sports view on distribution of football rights.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/media-deli...f-broadcasting

[EXTRACT]

"You should be able to get access to a football game as easily as buying an ice cream," said Andrea Radrizzani

Raider999 07-07-2020 12:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36042633)
Eleven Sports view on distribution of football rights.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/media-deli...f-broadcasting

[EXTRACT]

"You should be able to get access to a football game as easily as buying an ice cream," said Andrea Radrizzani



Interesting he says make availability cheaper which will reduce piracy - I do agree with that

However, LUTV fee for games is £10 per game - put up or shut up comes to mind!

denphone 07-07-2020 12:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36042652)
Interesting he says make availability cheaper which will reduce piracy - I do agree with that

However, LUTV fee for games is £10 per game - put up or shut up comes to mind!

Not a chance of them making it cheaper though is it as they know there is a captive and loyal audience who will stump up that.

OLD BOY 07-07-2020 14:01

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DAZN is preparing to go global, with a Beta rollout on 24 July. This is going to get interesting.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...beta-kick-off/

DAZN will resume its international expansion plans on July 24.

While not mentioning an official full release date, DAZN sent an email to users who had registered their interest offering “free early access to the new home of fight sports as a Beta Community tester.”

The company announced an expansion to more than 200 countries and territories at the beginning of March. This rollout was scheduled to take place on May 2, but this was pushed back as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.

Now, with sports starting to resume around the world, DAZN has decided to go again and pull the trigger on a July 24 beta launch to coincide with the Boxing match between Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Samuel Vargas.

muppetman11 07-07-2020 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36042667)
DAZN is preparing to go global, with a Beta rollout on 24 July. This is going to get interesting.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...beta-kick-off/

DAZN will resume its international expansion plans on July 24.

While not mentioning an official full release date, DAZN sent an email to users who had registered their interest offering “free early access to the new home of fight sports as a Beta Community tester.”

The company announced an expansion to more than 200 countries and territories at the beginning of March. This rollout was scheduled to take place on May 2, but this was pushed back as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.

Now, with sports starting to resume around the world, DAZN has decided to go again and pull the trigger on a July 24 beta launch to coincide with the Boxing match between Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Samuel Vargas.

Good luck with that

jfman 07-07-2020 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36042675)
Good luck with that

Last roll of the dice to put money in the meter for the life support machine.

denphone 07-07-2020 18:26

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Have we not been down this brave new world before..;)

ozsat 19-07-2020 15:00

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Anyone noticed that when Premier Sport 1 is blocked due to rights on both Sky and their streaming service - VM gets an alternate programme?

ScottishSteve 19-07-2020 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36043995)
Anyone noticed that when Premier Sport 1 is blocked due to rights on both Sky and their streaming service - VM gets an alternate programme?

I have seen them screening NASCAR during these times, sometimes the screen just goes black even when the EPG says there is a programme on.

telegramsam 19-07-2020 19:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36043995)
Anyone noticed that when Premier Sport 1 is blocked due to rights on both Sky and their streaming service - VM gets an alternate programme?

Didn't know they had the same programs as Sky,or am I misunderstanding what you're saying? I don't sub to Premier Sports so never tune in anyway,plus I'm with Sky so might be different to Virgin anyway.

ozsat 19-07-2020 19:04

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Premier Sport 1 was always the same on Sky and Virgin. But when some RoI programming went out the screen would blank out outside of RoI.

But now VM get a different programme to RoI - but Sky is still blanked out.

telegramsam 19-07-2020 19:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36044014)
Premier Sport 1 was always the same on Sky and Virgin. But when some RoI programming went out the screen would blank out outside of RoI.

But now VM get a different programme to RoI - but Sky is still blanked out.

Ok think I understand now. Premier Sports have rights in ROI that Sky have in England so can't show over here is what I understand.

ozsat 20-07-2020 13:38

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Yes - but when that programme is airing - Sky is blanked out but VM get an alternate programme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36044016)
Ok think I understand now. Premier Sports have rights in ROI that Sky have in England so can't show over here is what I understand.


Chad 24-07-2020 21:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36042667)
DAZN is preparing to go global, with a Beta rollout on 24 July. This is going to get interesting.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...beta-kick-off/

DAZN will resume its international expansion plans on July 24.

While not mentioning an official full release date, DAZN sent an email to users who had registered their interest offering “free early access to the new home of fight sports as a Beta Community tester.”

The company announced an expansion to more than 200 countries and territories at the beginning of March. This rollout was scheduled to take place on May 2, but this was pushed back as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.

Now, with sports starting to resume around the world, DAZN has decided to go again and pull the trigger on a July 24 beta launch to coincide with the Boxing match between Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Samuel Vargas.

Eleven Sports CEO admits UK launch was a mistake

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...en-sports-ceo/

DAZN should take note

denphone 24-07-2020 21:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36044585)
Eleven Sports CEO admits UK launch was a mistake

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...en-sports-ceo/

DAZN should take note

l have to concur with your view Chad but they are likely to have to learn the hard way like some of the others entrants before them.

telegramsam 24-07-2020 21:54

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I believe there's such a thing as too many Sports channels competing against each other and fans just won't sub to them all. Despite what some say on here the majority of sports fans like to watch their sport on (I do believe they're called) linear channels. I only watched the Premier League games on Amazon prime because I got to see it at no extra cost. I would not be paying to watch as I feel I pay more than enough to Sky and BT already.

jfman 24-07-2020 21:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36044585)
Eleven Sports CEO admits UK launch was a mistake

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...en-sports-ceo/

DAZN should take note

As with Setanta before them. Business model collapsed by biting off more than they can chew.

Chad 25-07-2020 00:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36044588)
l have to concur with your view Chad but they are likely to have to learn the hard way like some of the others entrants before them.

DAZN are launching with boxing. Boxing is fairly niche. Boxing has had a dedicated boxing channel for 9 years now in Boxnation. At its peak if showed content that not only rivalled Sky but surpassed them at a fraction of the cost. The channel was available on all TV platforms and various streaming devices but sat with an average subscriber base of less than 100,000. Nearly went completely to the wall until Premier Sports bailed them out and took control.

People in this country love watching football, mainly live British football. With the FA Cup becoming completely free to air next year on ITV and the BBC along with the Scottish Cup and Scottish Championship on the BBC and the English and Welsh national teams qualifiers and friendlies live on ITV and S4C respectively households will have access to roughly 70 games of top quality football per year for free. If you like a bit of football that's a bit more exotic Freesports show the Portuguese league, MLS, JLeague, La Liga, Seria A, Danish football and football from Poland.

I can't see DAZN making any impact in the first 24 months if they last that long. It's likely they'll join Setanta, ESPN and Eleven Sports RIP

Raider999 25-07-2020 11:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36044607)
DAZN are launching with boxing. Boxing is fairly niche. Boxing has had a dedicated boxing channel for 9 years now in Boxnation. At its peak if showed content that not only rivalled Sky but surpassed them at a fraction of the cost. The channel was available on all TV platforms and various streaming devices but sat with an average subscriber base of less than 100,000. Nearly went completely to the wall until Premier Sports bailed them out and took control.

People in this country love watching football, mainly live British football. With the FA Cup becoming completely free to air next year on ITV and the BBC along with the Scottish Cup and Scottish Championship on the BBC and the English and Welsh national teams qualifiers and friendlies live on ITV and S4C respectively households will have access to roughly 70 games of top quality football per year for free. If you like a bit of football that's a bit more exotic Freesports show the Portuguese league, MLS, JLeague, La Liga, Seria A, Danish football and football from Poland.

I can't see DAZN making any impact in the first 24 months if they last that long. It's likely they'll join Setanta, ESPN and Eleven Sports RIP

Scottish Cup and Championship - hardly what I would consider to be top quality.

Also, a bit of a mis-representation that Serie A and La Liga are in Freesports - yes they are but rarely live, you need to subscribe to Premier Sports for that, the other leagues mentioned are not top quality either.

cheekyangus 25-07-2020 14:07

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So what is "top quality" then?

Raider999 25-07-2020 14:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36044651)
So what is "top quality" then?


Widely agreed to be EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A and Ligue 1 - none of these is normally free to air apart from the odd game on Freesports as I explained.

Mad Max 25-07-2020 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36044640)
Scottish Cup and Championship - hardly what I would consider to be top quality.

Also, a bit of a mis-representation that Serie A and La Liga are in Freesports - yes they are but rarely live, you need to subscribe to Premier Sports for that, the other leagues mentioned are not top quality either.

Have you ever watched any of those games in their respective competitions?

cheekyangus 25-07-2020 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36044653)
Widely agreed to be EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A and Ligue 1 - none of these is normally free to air apart from the odd game on Freesports as I explained.

I had a feeling that was what you meant. Thanks for clarifying.

Raider999 25-07-2020 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36044655)
Have you ever watched any of those games in their respective competitions?


Ive watched a few Scottish Championship and Cup games in my time - not an experience I wish to have anymore.

Mad Max 25-07-2020 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36044665)
Ive watched a few Scottish Championship and Cup games in my time - not an experience I wish to have anymore.

I would probably agree with you re the above, but there have been a few really good cup ties in recent years, you must have been unlucky, I watch a lot of football and a lot of games in the so called " top quality" bracket can also be underwhelming.

cheekyangus 25-07-2020 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36044670)
I would probably agree with you re the above, but there have been a few really good cup ties in recent years, you must have been unlucky, I watch a lot of football and a lot of games in the so called " top quality" bracket can also be underwhelming.

Agree.

---------- Post added at 18:25 ---------- Previous post was at 18:21 ----------

I can't say I've watched much of the Scottish Championship since my team got promoted to the Scottish Premiership. I watch more of the Cup since that obviously involves teams from multiple leagues.

OLD BOY 10-08-2020 12:50

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The Head of BT Sports is predicting a correction in the price paid for Premiership football rights. For the sake of sports fans, I hope he's right, as prices have been going in one direction for too long now.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...head-of-sport/

Speaking to The Guardian, Simon Green predicted that the prices of sports rights will not continue to rise as they have for the past 30 years.

He said: “I personally believe that Covid-19 will cause a correction in the markets for television sports rights which will mean the value will not rise as it has done in the past. I think everyone will be more discerning about what they pay given that the country is facing a potential recession which could leave viewers with less money in their pockets.”



Interestingly, the article suggests that there will be increasing interest from the streaming services.

The league’s next rights cycle – to be auctioned in 2021 – is likely to be one of significant change. Amazon will likely look to increase its share of the rights following a successful first season with more than 20 matches. DAZN may also look to pick up domestic rights as it establishes itself in the UK market, while a lower valued league may lead Premier League CEO Richard Masters to push on with a potential ‘Premflix’ D2C product.

(Awaits screams of protest from SVOD deniers...)

:D

denphone 10-08-2020 13:43

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If one repeats the same ad nauseum message without any substantiation of proof which one has for many years then one has to understand that other forum members might well have a differing opinion from yours OB.;):D

OLD BOY 10-08-2020 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36046168)
If one repeats the same ad nauseum message without any substantiation of proof which one has for many years then one has to understand that other forum members might well have a differing opinion from yours OB.;):D

It's a discussion forum, Den, and I posted a news item.

It goes without saying that some will disagree (some for the sake of it) but that should not mean that those who don't go along with my point of view should try to silence the debate.

I have posted plenty of material on here to support what I am saying, and you have provided very little. You accuse me of providing no supporting information, but what supporting information for your view have you ever provided?

I agree with you that this could go either way, but I have not faltered in my belief that streaming will win in the end. Your 'evidence' is based on the status quo applying forever (which is ridiculous, frankly) and some previous attempts to rock the boat which have ended in failure. That proves nothing.

The only 'proof' that you will ever be happy with is when Amazon and/or DAZN make the inroads I have been predicting. But I can hardly do that right now, can I? The bar you are setting me is simply unreasonable. You cannot 'prove' the future.

muppetman11 10-08-2020 14:46

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How is DAZN going to take Sky on in the UK football rights ?

Amazon may look to increase its number of games slightly but DAZN I'd be amazed at in the UK.

Raider999 10-08-2020 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36046176)
How is DAZN going to take Sky on in the UK football rights ?

Amazon may look to increase its number of games slightly but DAZN I'd be amazed at in the UK.

Only by outbidding them - I read an article a few weeks ago that stated DAZN were unlikely to bid for EPL rights.

Unless the EPL restructure the packages I cannot see a streamer taking one of the main packages.

OLD BOY 10-08-2020 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36046176)
How is DAZN going to take Sky on in the UK football rights ?

Amazon may look to increase its number of games slightly but DAZN I'd be amazed at in the UK.

Er - what is the problem? They bid for the rights and they pay more for them than Sky is willing to put up. Once in the market, Sky may or may not bid in the future - they have already confirmed they will not pay silly money to retain them.

Once out of the picture, the streaming services will fight amongst themselves. What will this do for prices charged to punters? Well, we will see, but I believe that certainly Amazon, with the advantage of its retail arm, will have tricks up its sleeve to keep prices lower than at present.

That will drive subscribers towards Amazon, forcing their competitors to offer similar lower prices. That will reduce the bids for Premiership rights. This may take a few years to play out, but I am convinced that the ultimate impact will be favourable for subscribers.

jfman 10-08-2020 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046157)
The Head of BT Sports is predicting a correction in the price paid for Premiership football rights. For the sake of sports fans, I hope he's right, as prices have been going in one direction for too long now.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...head-of-sport/

Speaking to The Guardian, Simon Green predicted that the prices of sports rights will not continue to rise as they have for the past 30 years.

He said: “I personally believe that Covid-19 will cause a correction in the markets for television sports rights which will mean the value will not rise as it has done in the past. I think everyone will be more discerning about what they pay given that the country is facing a potential recession which could leave viewers with less money in their pockets.”



Interestingly, the article suggests that there will be increasing interest from the streaming services.

The league’s next rights cycle – to be auctioned in 2021 – is likely to be one of significant change. Amazon will likely look to increase its share of the rights following a successful first season with more than 20 matches. DAZN may also look to pick up domestic rights as it establishes itself in the UK market, while a lower valued league may lead Premier League CEO Richard Masters to push on with a potential ‘Premflix’ D2C product.

(Awaits screams of protest from SVOD deniers...)

:D

If you didn't leap into your default position of making everything good news for streamers the actual crux of what he has come out with is fundamentally bad news for streamers. That entrenched economic recession that I've opined about elsewhere will leave consumers hit in the pocket making them more selective about what they purchase reducing the space in the marketplace. A lot of these "nice add on" services will find themselves not compelling enough to retain without the key content that drives pay-tv subscriptions.

I'm quite sure if Amazon got offered games on the cheap again they'd jump at it.

The fact that there is a view that the league might have to resort to selling direct to consumers indicates a low confidence level in streamers digging into those 'deep pockets', and if they did during a recession there'd be a much higher risk to such a business model.

OLD BOY 10-08-2020 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36046200)
If you didn't leap into your default position of making everything good news for streamers the actual crux of what he has come out with is fundamentally bad news for streamers. That entrenched economic recession that I've opined about elsewhere will leave consumers hit in the pocket making them more selective about what they purchase reducing the space in the marketplace. A lot of these "nice add on" services will find themselves not compelling enough to retain without the key content that drives pay-tv subscriptions.

I'm quite sure if Amazon got offered games on the cheap again they'd jump at it.

The fact that there is a view that the league might have to resort to selling direct to consumers indicates a low confidence level in streamers digging into those 'deep pockets', and if they did during a recession there'd be a much higher risk to such a business model.

If the punters are happy, that's all that matters. It's all about trade-offs.

Frankly, I cannot understand why you think this is a bad thing. The Amazon footie seems to have gone pretty well. I guess that's because the football fans are not particularly interested in the jfman economic theory. Thank God for choice!

jfman 10-08-2020 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046202)
If the punters are happy, that's all that matters. It's all about trade-offs.

Frankly, I cannot understand why you think this is a bad thing. The Amazon footie seems to have gone pretty well. I guess that's because the football fans are not particularly interested in the jfman economic theory. Thank God for choice!

Are the punters happy? Would the punters be happy? Your crystal ball gazing knows no bounds here, Old Boy.

You've once again speculated, however not evidenced, that the often hypothesised streaming future brings lower costs to the end user for Premiership football.

The fact you've got DAZN, a company with more liabilities than assets, outbidding Sky for the rights under no basis whatsoever means we can safely file most of your posts from today in the fiction section and return from time to time for entertainment value only.

OLD BOY 10-08-2020 19:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36046204)
Are the punters happy? Would the punters be happy? Your crystal ball gazing knows no bounds here, Old Boy.

You've once again speculated, however not evidenced, that the often hypothesised streaming future brings lower costs to the end user for Premiership football.

The fact you've got DAZN, a company with more liabilities than assets, outbidding Sky for the rights under no basis whatsoever means we can safely file most of your posts from today in the fiction section and return from time to time for entertainment value only.

I know jfman. It's crazy, isn't it?

Have you seen the Netflix figures? That company will never fly, will it?

DAZN? I'm sure it is dead in the water.

Any more economic predictions you can entertain us wth before we gst back to reality? ;)

jfman 10-08-2020 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046209)
I know jfman. It's crazy, isn't it?

Have you seen the Netflix figures? That company will never fly, will it?

DAZN? I'm sure it is dead in the water.

Any more economic predictions you can entertain us wth before we gst back to reality? ;)

You are beyond parody, Old Boy. There used to be a vague semblance of something interesting in these posts, merely as a thought experiment more than anything else.

I'll continue to await the calculation on how a streamer raises and turns a profit on £5bn for Premiership football rights. I'm sure you'll tell me these people are geniuses, of course, but it was Sky who correctly predicted that none of them would enter the market for the first round of bids in 2019-22 and that the rights would go down in value.

What changes in 2022-25, other than the recession? If BT are right that the value of rights falls what makes Sky with it's customer base in place from day 1 less well placed than a streamer?

muppetman11 10-08-2020 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046183)
Er - what is the problem? They bid for the rights and they pay more for them than Sky is willing to put up. Once in the market, Sky may or may not bid in the future - they have already confirmed they will not pay silly money to retain them.

Once out of the picture, the streaming services will fight amongst themselves. What will this do for prices charged to punters? Well, we will see, but I believe that certainly Amazon, with the advantage of its retail arm, will have tricks up its sleeve to keep prices lower than at present.

That will drive subscribers towards Amazon, forcing their competitors to offer similar lower prices. That will reduce the bids for Premiership rights. This may take a few years to play out, but I am convinced that the ultimate impact will be favourable for subscribers.

You keep talking about streamers without actually figuring out that many of these are actually owned by the very companies your trying to kill off. Sky's parent company (Comcast) already has Now TV , Peacock and NBC Sports streaming services. Sky already have many other Sporting rights quite a lot of key ones something DAZN does not in the UK no way does DAZN spend anything like what the current rights are at in my opinion.

jfman 10-08-2020 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36046212)
You keep talking about streamers without actually figuring out that many of these are actually owned by the very companies your trying to kill off. Sky's parent company (Comcast) already has Now TV , Peacock , NBC Sports streaming service. Sky already have many other Sporting rights quite a lot of key ones something DAZN does not in the UK.

This has been lost on Old Boy since the start. It's easier for Sky, as the incumbent rights holder, to move into streaming when there is market demand for them to do so than someone else out of the blue to outbid them and then develop an offering.

Now TV do a football season pass for about £200 give or take. I find it hard to imagine anyone else can raise £5bn at that price point. You can reverse engineer the figure as you please.

A further thought on the Premier League themselves selling direct to customers they might decide against in the event that we end up with more dead rubber closed door games in future seasons. A huge risk to take on retailing that directly.

Raider999 10-08-2020 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36046211)
You are beyond parody, Old Boy. There used to be a vague semblance of something interesting in these posts, merely as a thought experiment more than anything else.

I'll continue to await the calculation on how a streamer raises and turns a profit on £5bn for Premiership football rights. I'm sure you'll tell me these people are geniuses, of course, but it was Sky who correctly predicted that none of them would enter the market for the first round of bids in 2019-22 and that the rights would go down in value.

What changes in 2022-25, other than the recession? If BT are right that the value of rights falls what makes Sky with it's customer base in place from day 1 less well placed than a streamer?

It is difficult to fault your logic. The fly in the ointment may be EPL selling rights directly to customers.

Many years ago, the thought was that you would be able to buy a season ticket to watch your favourite clubs matches (home and away).

This never got off the ground - I suspect because they didn't have the tech to do it.

Now the streamers have shown you can stream games live all you need is a method of getting payment. advertising the new service would be cheap as they can do it mid game throughout the season - preparing people for the next season.

This would blow the streamers out of the water as the content wouldn't be available.

jfman 10-08-2020 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36046215)
It is difficult to fault your logic. The fly in the ointment may be EPL selling rights directly to customers.

Many years ago, the thought was that you would be able to buy a season ticket to watch your favourite clubs matches (home and away).

This never got off the ground - I suspect because they didn't have the tech to do it.

Now the streamers have shown you can stream games live all you need is a method of getting payment. advertising the new service would be cheap as they can do it mid game throughout the season - preparing people for the next season.

This would blow the streamers out of the water as the content wouldn't be available.

I'd say it's more likely that the league would resort to retailing directly than someone comes from nowhere to take on the risk.

Season tickets for clubs would be interesting - and a genuinely new offering so has the potential to attract more customers - although the 3pm blackout (which I profoundly disagree with) remains the problem, but with so few Premiership games actually taking place then would it really be an issue to move the 'main' kick off time to 1pm or a Sunday?

The way to league could test demand would be to offer the rest of the games over and above the main contract TV games on their own service for a 3 year period before seeking to take full control themselves.

The issue for the League is that while such an offering has potential - the contracts with existing TV companies are no risk money in their hands.

OLD BOY 10-08-2020 19:50

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36046211)
You are beyond parody, Old Boy. There used to be a vague semblance of somd into ething interesting in these posts, merely as a thought experiment more than anything else.

I'll continue to await the calculation on how a streamer raises and turns a profit on £5bn for Premiership football rights. I'm sure you'll tell me these people are geniuses, of course, but it was Sky who correctly predicted that none of them would enter the market for the first round of bids in 2019-22 and that the rights would go down in value.

What changes in 2022-25, other than the recession? If BT are right that the value of rights falls what makes Sky with it's customer base in place from day 1 less well placed than a streamer?

I could explain the reasoning, jfman, but the problem is that you are not listening. So why bother going to any lengths to explain to someone who appears to be brainwashed into believing that any alternative opinion to yours must be vanquished at all costs?

SVOD and streaming IS the future, no matter what you believe and no matter what you say. Most people, I am pretty sure, agree with that.

jfman 10-08-2020 20:08

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046223)
I could explain the reasoning, jfman, but the problem is that you are not listening. So why bother going to any lengths to explain to someone who appears to be brainwashed into believing that any alternative opinion to yours must be vanquished at all costs?

SVOD and streaming IS the future, no matter what you believe and no matter what you say. Most people, I am pretty sure, agree with that.

Straw man alert.

It’s you that says linear will cease to exist - I’ve never claimed that streaming won’t be (or isn’t) popular in its own right.

No calculations that don’t involve a billionaire philanthropist then?

Raider999 11-08-2020 14:04

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046223)
I could explain the reasoning, jfman, but the problem is that you are not listening. So why bother going to any lengths to explain to someone who appears to be brainwashed into believing that any alternative opinion to yours must be vanquished at all costs?

SVOD and streaming IS the future, no matter what you believe and no matter what you say. Most people, I am pretty sure, agree with that.

OB, not sure why you are posting the streaming mantra in this thread - especially as by your own admission you do not like sports.

We read enough of this in other threads!

OLD BOY 11-08-2020 15:12

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36046307)
OB, not sure why you are posting the streaming mantra in this thread - especially as by your own admission you do not like sports.

We read enough of this in other threads!

See my post #9833. I posted a news item on what the BT's Head of Sports said about sports rights. It was those who find the future I have described elsewhere difficult to contemplate that have been shouting the odds about streaming, raising the same old issues yet again.

Hugh 11-08-2020 16:03

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046223)
I could explain the reasoning, jfman, but the problem is that you are not listening. So why bother going to any lengths to explain to someone who appears to be brainwashed into believing that any alternative opinion to yours must be vanquished at all costs?

SVOD and streaming IS the future, no matter what you believe and no matter what you say. Most people, I am pretty sure, agree with that.

Do you also have a girlfriend in Canada, who no one's ever seen, but she's real, honestly?

OLD BOY 11-08-2020 16:09

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36046328)
Do you also have a girlfriend in Canada, who no one's ever seen, but she's real, honestly?

No - in Thailand, actually :erm:

Mad Max 11-08-2020 16:18

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36046328)
Do you also have a girlfriend in Canada, who no one's ever seen, but she's real, honestly?

Shouldn't that post be in the Current Affairs forum.....:D

jfman 11-08-2020 17:25

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046323)
See my post #9833. I posted a news item on what the BT's Head of Sports said about sports rights. It was those who find the future I have described elsewhere difficult to contemplate that have been shouting the odds about streaming, raising the same old issues yet again.

Except he only stipulated that the Premiership could sell a service direct to consumers. At no point did he say that it would happen, or that it wouldn't be platform neutral. I'm sure even you'd accept that linear broadcasting is cheap compared to the £1.5bn a year they'd be looking to get from people who are primarily Sky subscribers.

You are at the front of the queue to say how much easier it is to have everything on one box. Why would someone exclude a Sky Q box? If they were going to make the service available from 2022 why would they not make it available in Ultra HD to everyone?

Hugh 11-08-2020 17:58

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046330)
No - in Thailand, actually :erm:

Thighland, surely? :D

Mad Max 11-08-2020 20:17

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36046339)
Thighland, surely? :D

Oh, you are a naughty boy......:p:

Phunkenstein 12-08-2020 15:19

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/1...ar-partnership

New NFL dedicated channel on the way.

denphone 12-08-2020 15:36

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36046419)
https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/1...ar-partnership

New NFL dedicated channel on the way.

It was pretty inevitable given they have already launched standalone channels for most of the other major sports.

telegramsam 12-08-2020 15:37

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36046419)
https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/1...ar-partnership

New NFL dedicated channel on the way.

Great news for those who love NFL. Not a fan of American sports myself.

cheekyangus 12-08-2020 16:46

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
They have given it the channel number of Sky Sports Action apparently. One less place for sports that don't have a dedicated channel if it's replacing it.

muppetman11 12-08-2020 18:24

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36046419)
https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/1...ar-partnership

New NFL dedicated channel on the way.

Looking forward to some more NFL Network Programming seems a great deal for those who like NFL.

Raider999 12-08-2020 22:17

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Watching Atalanta v PSG on BT Sports, what a farce the sound is about 10 seconds ahead of the video.

Atalanta score, as per commentary - the scorer hasn't even received the ball

vincerooney 13-08-2020 00:47

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36046457)
Watching Atalanta v PSG on BT Sports, what a farce the sound is about 10 seconds ahead of the video.

Atalanta score, as per commentary - the scorer hasn't even received the ball

apparently due to a thunderstorm so interference! never heard that excuse before mind.

ozsat 13-08-2020 04:20

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
It was the same on all platforms and an on-air apology was given.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36046457)
Watching Atalanta v PSG on BT Sports, what a farce the sound is about 10 seconds ahead of the video.

Atalanta score, as per commentary - the scorer hasn't even received the ball


alwaysabear 13-08-2020 10:09

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36046419)
https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/1...ar-partnership

New NFL dedicated channel on the way.

Excellent news , my favourite sport by far.:D

Raider999 13-08-2020 11:38

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36046469)
It was the same on all platforms and an on-air apology was given.

Yes, it did sort itself out after about 10-15 mins, the commentator even joked about it.

As said, above, never had this before - very strange.

---------- Post added at 11:38 ---------- Previous post was at 11:35 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36046422)
It was pretty inevitable given they have already launched standalone channels for most of the other major sports.

But NFL is not a major sport (in the UK).

I suspect either Action or Arena will be re-named rather than an extra channel.

They have so many channels anyway that they have to put programmes on more than 1 channel to fill the gaps.

denphone 13-08-2020 11:56

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36046495)
But NFL is not a major sport (in the UK).

I suspect either Action or Arena will be re-named rather than an extra channel.

They have so many channels anyway that they have to put programmes on more than 1 channel to fill the gaps.

Sky Sports does not just broadcast in Blighty as it broadcasts all over the world where NFL is much bigger in its popularity.

cheekyangus 13-08-2020 12:00

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36046495)
]But NFL is not a major sport (in the UK).

I suspect either Action or Arena will be re-named rather than an extra channel.

They have so many channels anyway that they have to put programmes on more than 1 channel to fill the gaps.

As I said earlier.
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36046428)
They have given it the channel number of Sky Sports Action apparently. One less place for sports that don't have a dedicated channel if it's replacing it.

In this Press Release Sky say 407, which is currently Sky Sports Action.
https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...ar-partnership
Quote:

Sky Sports NFL, which will be Channel 407 on the Sky platform, will bring viewers the story of the entire season,

ozsat 16-08-2020 08:46

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
TiVo is listing both the UEFA Europa League and UEFA Champions' League finals as being free on channel 100.

johnasimmons 16-08-2020 09:57

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36046764)
TiVo is listing both the UEFA Europa League and UEFA Champions' League finals as being free on channel 100.

I think they did that last year as well?

denphone 16-08-2020 10:14

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36046767)
I think they did that last year as well?

They did.

cheekyangus 16-08-2020 10:54

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Has the picture quality of Sky Sports Mix SD been downgraded in recent months?

The logos, leaderboards and score information are all much more pixelated than I thought they used to be.

SonicMaster 18-08-2020 15:31

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36046764)
TiVo is listing both the UEFA Europa League and UEFA Champions' League finals as being free on channel 100.

https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...r-on-virgin-tv

1andrew1 22-08-2020 15:18

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Rumours are of a bid is in the offing for BT.

denphone 22-08-2020 15:22

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36047384)
Rumours are of a bid is in the offing for BT.

Here we are Andrew.

https://news.sky.com/story/bt-group-...aches-12054366

carravetta 22-08-2020 19:36

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Who can realistically purchase BT?

Comcast
AT&T
beIN Media Group

OLD BOY 22-08-2020 19:40

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Liberty Global?

telegramsam 22-08-2020 20:06

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
One things a certainty, it will be a foreign company because they've the only ones with any sort of serious money!

carravetta 22-08-2020 20:48

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36047406)
Liberty Global?

Don’t think they have deeper pockets than those I mentioned

denphone 22-08-2020 20:52

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 36047413)
Don’t think they have deeper pockets than those I mentioned

No they don't.

Raider999 23-08-2020 09:29

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36047409)
One things a certainty, it will be a foreign company because they've the only ones with any sort of serious money!

Plenty of Chinese interest I suspect.

Mad Max 23-08-2020 12:14

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 36047404)
Who can realistically purchase BT?

Comcast
AT&T
beIN Media Group

Amazon.....:D

denphone 23-08-2020 12:16

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36047462)
Amazon.....:D

Any reason why you think they might bid for them MM?.;)

Mad Max 23-08-2020 12:44

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36047463)
Any reason why you think they might bid for them MM?.;)

Yeah, to stream EPL football.....:D

Raider999 23-08-2020 13:48

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36047466)
Yeah, to stream EPL football.....:D

The EPL football rights, indeed all of BT TV is a small part of BT as a company.

I'm not sure anyone would by such s big company for the football rights alone -easier to outbid them next time round

Media Boy UK 23-08-2020 16:00

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Head up

European Football news

Celtic game on Wednesday will be shown on Premier Sports 1 HD
Aberdeen game on Thursday will be shown on Premier Sports 1 HD
Motherwell game on Thursday will be shown on Premier Sports 2 HD

TiVo has still to be updated.

Source: https://www.live-footballontv.com/

Raider999 23-08-2020 17:56

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36047472)
Head up

European Football news

Celtic game on Wednesday will be shown on Premier Sports 1 HD
Aberdeen game on Thursday will be shown on Premier Sports 1 HD
Motherwell game on Thursday will be shown on Premier Sports 2 HD

TiVo has still to be updated.

Source: https://www.live-footballontv.com/

Just read this on another thread!

telegramsam 23-08-2020 19:05

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36047482)
Just read this on another thread!

Shame not free to air

Media Boy UK 23-08-2020 19:10

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36047490)
Shame not free to air

They will be shown on Freesports sometime after the game (seen the Celtic game on Friday night - three days after it was shown on Premier Sports)

telegramsam 23-08-2020 19:23

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36047491)
They will be shown on Freesports sometime after the game (seen the Celtic game on Friday night - three days after it was shown on Premier Sports)

Ok thanks will look out for it

1andrew1 28-08-2020 13:11

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Ban on screening Saturday 3pm matches to be lifted temporarily.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...-football-ban/

denphone 28-08-2020 13:24

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36047989)
Ban on screening Saturday 3pm matches to be lifted temporarily.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...-football-ban/

That makes sense in the current climate.

Raider999 28-08-2020 14:02

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36047989)
Ban on screening Saturday 3pm matches to be lifted temporarily.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...-football-ban/

Very old news

jfman 28-08-2020 14:02

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36047414)
No they don't.

You don’t always need deep pockets you just need someone to lend you the money. ;)

See Glazer purchase of Manchester United for reference.

1andrew1 28-08-2020 14:13

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36047992)
Very old news

Not to this thread or The Times.

---------- Post added at 14:13 ---------- Previous post was at 14:11 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36047990)
That makes sense in the current climate.

Agreed. Given social distancing, capacity must be halved or worse at stadiums.

jfman 28-08-2020 14:49

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
I wasn’t aware the 3pm blackout being lifted had been confirmed for this season.

Dave42 28-08-2020 17:52

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Confirmed Premier League fixtures on Sky Sports

Sat 12 Sep: Liverpool vs Leeds Utd - 5.30pm

Sun 13 Sep: West Brom vs Leicester City - 2pm

Sun 13 Sep: Tottenham vs Everton - 4.30pm

Mon 14 Sep: Brighton vs Chelsea - 8pm

Sat 19 Sep: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace - 5.30pm

Sun 20 Sep: Arsenal vs West Ham Utd - 2pm

Sun 20 Sep: Chelsea vs Liverpool - 4.30pm

Mon 21 Sep: Wolves vs Man City - 8pm

Sat 26 Sep: West Brom vs Chelsea - 5.30pm

Sun 27 Sep: Fulham vs Aston Villa - 2pm

Sun 27 Sep: Man City vs Leicester City - 4.30pm

Mon 28 Sep: Liverpool vs Arsenal - 8pm

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...2020-21-season


BT Sport Fixtures

Fulham v Arsenal

Saturday 12 September

12.30pm

Everton v West Brom

Saturday 19 September

12.30pm

Southampton v Tottenham

Sunday 20 September

12pm

Brighton v Man Utd

Saturday 26 September

12.30pm

Sheffield Utd v Leeds

Sunday 27 September

12pm

https://www.bt.com/sport/football/pr...-for-september

Raider999 28-08-2020 18:07

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36048007)
Confirmed Premier League fixtures on Sky Sports

Sat 12 Sep: Liverpool vs Leeds Utd - 5.30pm

Sun 13 Sep: West Brom vs Leicester City - 2pm

Sun 13 Sep: Tottenham vs Everton - 4.30pm

Mon 14 Sep: Brighton vs Chelsea - 8pm

Sat 19 Sep: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace - 5.30pm

Sun 20 Sep: Arsenal vs West Ham Utd - 2pm

Sun 20 Sep: Chelsea vs Liverpool - 4.30pm

Mon 21 Sep: Wolves vs Man City - 8pm

Sat 26 Sep: West Brom vs Chelsea - 5.30pm

Sun 27 Sep: Fulham vs Aston Villa - 2pm

Sun 27 Sep: Man City vs Leicester City - 4.30pm

Mon 28 Sep: Liverpool vs Arsenal - 8pm

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...2020-21-season


BT Sport Fixtures

Fulham v Arsenal

Saturday 12 September

12.30pm

Everton v West Brom

Saturday 19 September

12.30pm

Southampton v Tottenham

Sunday 20 September

12pm

Brighton v Man Utd

Saturday 26 September

12.30pm

Sheffield Utd v Leeds

Sunday 27 September

12pm

https://www.bt.com/sport/football/pr...-for-september

Thanks, keep checking the relevant sites but not found it yet

jfman 29-08-2020 19:24

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Bit of a schoolboy error by the EPL to not have any fixtures in the 3pm window, no doubt Championship games/Bundesliga/La Liga games will be televised in this time slot for the majority of the season.


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