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Jaymoss 04-10-2022 17:57

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36135998)
Thats like asking do light bulbs cost a lot to run.

As with anything, the answer depends on the wattage of the device.
A 250W dehumidifier will use 1KWH of electricity every 4 hours (about £1.40 at the new rates).

The "recovered heat" is irrelevant to the actual cost of electricity while its running.

However, it does (should) mean you need to run it less hours overall to maintain a desired room temperature.

34p at the new rates per 4 hours

Hugh 04-10-2022 23:45

Re: The energy crisis
 
https://news.sky.com/story/cost-of-l...orest-12712013

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Cost of living: Shell boss calls on government to tax oil and gas companies to protect poorest

The chief executive of Shell has called on the government to tax oil and gas companies in order to protect the poorest people in society from soaring energy costs.

Speaking at the Energy Intelligence Forum in London, Ben van Beurden said: "One way or another there needs to be government intervention that somehow results in protecting the poorest.

"That probably may then mean that governments need to tax people in this room to pay for it."

His comment was in reference to companies rather than individuals, a Shell spokesperson later said.

High prices and market volatility is damaging to society, Mr van Beurden said.

"You cannot have a market that behaves in such a way... that is going to damage a significant part of society," he told those in attendance.

Jaymoss 04-10-2022 23:48

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36136026)

Or instead of Tax the producers could just charge less

Paul 05-10-2022 02:11

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36136009)
34p at the new rates per 4 hours

Bah, thats what happens when you rush posts, brain disengaged. Fixed.

nomadking 05-10-2022 13:14

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36136027)
Or instead of Tax the producers could just charge less

They DO NOT set the prices, the markets do.:rolleyes:

Jaymoss 05-10-2022 13:27

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36136051)
They DO NOT set the prices, the markets do.:rolleyes:

Yeah you keep repeating that. I still consider it bull crap same as I as I did the first time you said it. Just because the market sees the supply demand if the producers really wanted to they could charge what they want. The market is artificial. Cut out the broker sell direct

Also if the government refuse to tax the producers why don't the producers just give them the money. Of course Shell could jus tbe saying tax us knowing the government wont tax them so they can raise their image

Ms NTL 05-10-2022 18:48

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My octopus bill arrived today


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richard-john56 05-10-2022 19:10

Re: The energy crisis
 
I am with Octopussy as well and my bill for both is 106.78 a month.

Mad Max 05-10-2022 19:23

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by richard-john56 (Post 36136082)
I am with Octopussy as well and my bill for both is 106.78 a month.


Are you living in a hut?

Sephiroth 05-10-2022 19:27

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by richard-john56 (Post 36136082)
I am with Octopussy as well and my bill for both is 106.78 a month.

Just how "green" is Octopus given that they sell electricity over the grid. Their claim is this:

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We want to make renewable energy the easiest choice for everyone – so all our electricity tariffs are 100% green, often for less than other suppliers' non-green tariffs.

We work out how much power our customers are taking out of the grid annually (a mix of power sources, from wind to fossil fuels) and ensure an equal amount of renewable energy is added into the system in its place over the year. Not only does this make your electricity effectively net zero – it gradually helps make the energy system greener for everyone!
https://octopus.energy/green/

What they've done is an apportionment so that they pay for non-fossil generated electricity (never mind the carbon footprint to make wind farms) and then equal to an offset amount of fossil-produced electricity. Pure smoke and mirrors for you to glue yourself to.


Ms NTL 05-10-2022 19:35

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by richard-john56 (Post 36136082)
I am with Octopussy as well and my bill for both is 106.78 a month.

How? One fridge. One freezer+computers. Do you shower every day?Hoooooooooooooooooooow?

SnoopZ 05-10-2022 20:09

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36136079)
My octopus bill arrived today


:Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes:: Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes:

Jesus that can't be right, mines £99 a month after rebate with Bulb, with 1 person in the house.

daveeb 05-10-2022 22:05

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36136079)
My octopus bill arrived today


:Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes:: Yikes::Yikes::Yikes::Yikes:

You're not running a cottage steel smelting business are you? seriously though does seem excessively high !!!

Chris 05-10-2022 22:06

Re: The energy crisis
 
Or growing something in the attic? Those heat lamps aren’t cheap to run.

RichardCoulter 06-10-2022 07:14

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36135998)
Thats like asking do light bulbs cost a lot to run.

As with anything, the answer depends on the wattage of the device.
A 250W dehumidifier will use 1KWH of electricity every 4 hours (about 35p at the new rates).

The "recovered heat" is irrelevant to the actual cost of electricity while its running.

However, it does (should) mean you need to run it less hours overall to maintain a desired room temperature.

Is the recovered heat enough to heat the room to the extent that the usual heating could be turned down or even off though?

If so, this could be deducted from what the dehumidifier costs to run.


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