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OLD BOY 22-09-2020 17:39
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Views by streaming on Samsung TVs is overtaking linear viewing. As the number of people buying smart TVs increases, I would expect this trend to gather pace.

https://advanced-television.com/2020...ar-viewership/

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...And in the meantime, the BBC confirms there will be no more linear channels from the Corporation.

https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...rs_412844.html

Hugh 22-09-2020 21:22
Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36051170)
Views by streaming on Samsung TVs is overtaking linear viewing. As the number of people buying smart TVs increases, I would expect this trend to gather pace.

https://advanced-television.com/2020...ar-viewership/

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...And in the meantime, the BBC confirms there will be no more linear channels from the Corporation.

https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...rs_412844.html
No, he didn’t...

Quote:
"We will not propose to take any further DAB or traditional TV channel capacity for our services.

"If we want to launch a new offer, and we will consider our options, it would need to use the current space.
If they launched a new channel, it would have to use existing capacity...

From your first link
Quote:
According to Samsung, it is important to note that in the UK, linear TV viewing time has grown in the first half of 2020 (+11 per cent increase in hours per TV per day), but it has been outpaced by the growth in TV streaming (+36 per cent).
I wonder what happened in the first six months of this year that caused people to watch more TV?

jfman 22-09-2020 22:46
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All those folk on furlough and kids at home causing internal turmoil for Old Boy. It’s good on one hand they’re streaming but not so good as an economic cost and the impact on education. I guess you win some you lose some.

harry_hitch 04-10-2020 20:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36051170)
Views by streaming on Samsung TVs is overtaking linear viewing. As the number of people buying smart TVs increases, I would expect this trend to gather pace.

https://advanced-television.com/2020...ar-viewership/

---------- Post added at 17:39 ---------- Previous post was at 17:24 ----------

...And in the meantime, the BBC confirms there will be no more linear channels from the Corporation.

https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...rs_412844.html
Ah, still not changed OB. Still banging on about this. How many years now? We can't be far off your original 10 year ramblings now, can we? When are you now predicting the death of linear TV? Will be interesting to see what happens when a swathe of new content lands on linear TV and streaming services. Lockdown probably skewed the figures somewhat recently, with everyone at home had the choice between crappy day time TV or top quality shows available to watch at any time.

Mad Max 04-10-2020 20:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 36052637)
Ah, still not changed OB. Still banging on about this. How many years now? We can't be far off your original 10 year ramblings now, can we? When are you now predicting the death of linear TV? Will be interesting to see what happens when a swathe of new content lands on linear TV and streaming services. Lockdown probably skewed the figures somewhat recently, with everyone at home had the choice between crappy day time TV or top quality shows available to watch at any time.
I'm pretty sure he said 2035.

jfman 04-10-2020 20:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36052640)
I'm pretty sure he said 2035.
Not the first time he didn't and there's still no answer to any of the pertinent questions many of us have posed as to what causes this sea change. Even Amazon are looking at launching linear channels in some territories.

Enthusiasts are early adopters to new technology. However linear will continue to exist while the average consumer likes switching on a TV and pressing '1'. Old Boy will be along to call them simpletons/lazy any minute now. Regardless, these are consumers in the marketplace. Consumers more likely to watch adverts. Eyeballs drive what will be delivered, not OBs pipe dream.

denphone 04-10-2020 20:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36052640)
I'm pretty sure he said 2035.
You sure l thought it was 2025.:p:

OLD BOY 05-10-2020 07:43
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I said 2035, and you only need to take thetime to look at the posts to see that this is correct.

The disinformation that some people like to spread on here is quite remarkable, which must be either an indication of desperation, goading, trolling or perhaps early onset dementia.

:D

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 36052637)
Ah, still not changed OB. Still banging on about this. How many years now? We can't be far off your original 10 year ramblings now, can we? When are you now predicting the death of linear TV? Will be interesting to see what happens when a swathe of new content lands on linear TV and streaming services.

Lockdown probably skewed the figures somewhat recently, with everyone at home had the choice between crappy day time TV or top quality shows available to watch at any time.
Hello, Harry, nice to see you back. I have often wondered what happened to you!

I guess the bit I’ve highlighted clearly shows the difference that VOD brings, and once the majority of the population gets used to it, this will be the way most people will choose to watch TV.

That’s what I believe will happen, but hey, who knows? Others have a different view, which is OK, although for the life of me I cannot see why anyone would seriously believe that methods of viewing will not completely change in time. Even the BBC is planning for the new IPTV world in a decade’s time, and an end to the existing broadcasts by transmitters, which will be a major trigger for this change.

I am sure you cannot have not seen the big change in viewing habits that have been reported over just the few years since you’ve been absent from this thread. In 15 years, I reckon that change will be complete.

Chris 05-10-2020 07:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36052691)
I said 2035, and you only need to take thetime to look at the posts to see that this is correct.
Actually you didn’t. Here’s one example from several in your original thread on this tired old subject:

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35757394)
Well I suppose he would say that, wouldn't he?

I expect everything will look so different in 2025.
That’s from 2015, in “The future for linear TV channels” thread. There are other examples on the same page.

Quote:
The disinformation that some people like to spread on here is quite remarkable, which must be either an indication of desperation, goading, trolling or perhaps early onset dementia.

:D
QFT

jfman 05-10-2020 07:50
Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36052691)
I said 2035, and you only need to take thetime to look at the posts to see that this is correct.

The disinformation that some people like to spread on here is quite remarkable, which must be either an indication of desperation, goading, trolling or perhaps early onset dementia.

:D

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Hello, Harry, nice to see you back. I have often wondered what happened to you!

I guess the bit I’ve highlighted clearly shows the difference that VOD brings, and once the majority of the population gets used to it, this will be the way most people will choose to watch TV.

That’s what I believe will happen, but hey, who knows? Others have a different view, which is OK, although for the life of me I cannot see why anyone would seriously believe that methods of viewing will not completely change in time. Even the BBC is planning for the new IPTV world in a decade’s time, and an end to the existing broadcasts by transmitters, which will be a major trigger for this change.

I am sure you cannot have not seen the big change in viewing habits that have been reported over just the few years since you’ve been absent from this thread. In 15 years, I reckon that change will be complete.
Can you provide a source for this? Considering it took 14 years notification for analogue switch off you’d think the end of terrestrial transmissions would be publicised better.

OLD BOY 05-10-2020 11:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36052693)
Actually you didn’t. Here’s one example from several in your original thread on this tired old subject:



That’s from 2015, in “The future for linear TV channels” thread. There are other examples on the same page.



QFT
I am well aware of that post, which referred to the rolling out of broadband. That’s what I said would be more accessible by 2025.

I have always talked of 2035 in relation to VOD.

Chris 05-10-2020 11:28
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I am well aware of your retrospective claim to have been talking about broadband. Anyone else is welcome to click the little blue arrow by the quote and see it in context, where you repeatedly reference 10 years from now, including posts where the only thing you've quoted is people talking about VOD.

You switched to predicting 2035 because we made an argument you couldn't answer. You admitted as much:

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35758144)
Not sure what you mean, but I think the number of TV channels will reduce over time and eventually go altogether.

I think in the future you will just pay for what you watch, with a choice of subscription and/or pay per view. Commercial broadcasters are pretty unanimous in pleading that the TV licence system is out of date.

When you compare the instant access to the programmes you want to see with the likes of Netflix and Amazon Prime, with the tiresome wait for the programme you want to see on broadcast TV and those interminable advertisements, I think that most people, in time, will come to accept the inevitable.

I acknowledge I could well be wrong on the 10 years time span, but come it will, I'm convinced of that. Of course something even more startling may develop in the meantime which none of us have even contemplated!
Only later, did you settle on the idea of 2035, and soon afterwards you started claiming you'd never said otherwise.

Busted.

1andrew1 05-10-2020 13:07
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Thanks for digging out those old posts, Chris, showing that the linear extinction date was bumped forward by ten years.

Legendkiller2k 05-10-2020 13:33
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36052734)
Thanks for digging out those old posts, Chris, showing that the linear extinction date was bumped forward by ten years.
Come 2025 it'll be bumped to 2045 :D

OLD BOY 05-10-2020 17:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36052728)
I am well aware of your retrospective claim to have been talking about broadband. Anyone else is welcome to click the little blue arrow by the quote and see it in context, where you repeatedly reference 10 years from now, including posts where the only thing you've quoted is people talking about VOD.

You switched to predicting 2035 because we made an argument you couldn't answer. You admitted as much:



Only later, did you settle on the idea of 2035, and soon afterwards you started claiming you'd never said otherwise.

Busted.
I am sorry if I was not clear that the 2025 date, but I did clarify what I meant back in 2015.

To still be going on about that after all this time, really, Chris! Perhaps you are just being playful... :D


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