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I have enough bottles of spirits to drink 1 bottle a month and it will last me to October 2029

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I'm thinking of a new computer desk . . once again nobody local has what I want 'in store'
I can order it and collect it from store tomorrow . . but they also want my name & address, phone number, and email address.

Hang on a minute . . it's being delivered to YOU for me to pick up from store.
If I go to the corner shop and 'collect' a loaf of bread, bottle of milk, and a mars bar they don't ask for all that info.

Just piss off with the data collection bollox :mad:

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You need to get with the times, there is no issue giving someone your email address, just give them one you use for spam if it is an issue for you.

I really don't see the issue and if you're paranoid just give them the wrong mobile number.

Most of my stuff is bought online other than food stuff.

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do you use a credit or debit card? you are right of course as long as the item is paid for you should only need the receipt to pick it up

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I guess if there is a problem they would want to be able to contact you, the CC will also need an address to confirm it's your card I guess.

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But . . if they had the bugger in the store, I'd just pay over the counter with my debit card, pick the box up and walk out, right?

If they're transferring the item from one of their other stores to this one, (which is what they intended to do), why do they need all my damn info instead of allowing me to walk in, pay, and collect the damn thing.

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Because if something went wrong with the delivery to the store they would need to contact you, it's still an order even if you get it from the store. If you just walk into the store to buy they won't need address or email info, but some stores these days do ask for an email address for the receipt( I'm looking at you New look) but you can just ask for a paper receipt. Ultimately if giving someone your email address is your issue then just give them one of them that you don't consider to be a main address, I have atleast 4 I use for various things.

If you order online like most people do these days and then want to collect it in the store, obviously you would still need to provide an email address to prove you ordered it because they will send you the order number and there are boxes to tick to tell them not to do anything with your information, I really don't see the problem. :shrug:

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decided to bite the bullet and order it . . for delivery (make them work for the info).

Failed at payment process, bank unable to send authorisation (again) . . probably because they don't have my phone number or email :D

Hey, knock it all you like but I know any emails or phone calls -supposedly - from the bank can safely be told to . . . do one ;)

I'm saving a fortune by not being able to spend my own money :rofl:

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So you do not even trust your bank with your phone number? I am guessing you do not use your banks app either? that is how most of my payments are verified through the app

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<sarcasm on>Well, if he did that, the bank might find out his address and how he spent his money...<sarcasm off> :D

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we millionaires [pensioners] never reveal our bank details,you never know when there's a socialist lurking around with a tax demand

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Fraud.
Winter fuel payment.

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avoidance

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guess I must be American because I do not get it

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Trust nothing and believe no-one, they walk among us, one mans lie is another mans truth, walls (and lizards) have ears, and finally, if all men (oh, and women) were created equal, I'm just glad the pattern wasn't the mother-in-law

:D

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I understand your fear but it is standing in the way of you doing things so it is having a negative effect on your quality of life

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His quality of life is taking the piss out of others people's life :nutter:

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what life

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The rat race mate, do as others do or get left out, follow the crowd and don't ask why, Pavlov dog syndrome and all that ;)

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but you can not even make a simple purchase? how are you beating the rat race??

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By not being able to buy the latest fad or glittery thing, most of which is over rated useless rubbish anyway :D

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i bet you watch strictly come prancing and the traitors on the boob tube

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A veritable feast of family entertainment, even our dog won't watch it :D

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well then you have not followed my existence here very well have you my dear. I do not watch live TV I use Sonarr and Radarr to sync the media I want to view with my Usenet indexers and downloaders so it is all there on my PC to view at my leisure. I am sure all of that went over your head

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But Carth you can not even buy an new computer desk you want... Bit silly of you responding like that when it is you yourself failing to buy the desk

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so basically you watch it but faff about with the feed

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Think what you want about my viewing habits although it is a totally ignorant assumption but I expect nothing less

Me bad for being able to fully utilise my bank account

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Don't the vet want your surname to name your dog in full ?

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It's true I have failed in my feeble attempt to buy a new computer desk, so will continue to use the old one. I've saved a few quid, a shop/outlet/manufacturer has lost a few quid. I reckon I'm up on the deal ;)

As far as watching (crap) on the TV goes, if you watch it you watch it, no matter how or when or by which convoluted method is chosen.

edit: Dogs don't need surnames, that's almost as bad as people naming their car Betsy or something :)

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My mum's cats have to have the owners surname :shrug:

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No, that's just paperwork so the vets bill the correct people :D

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Like your desk?

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my cat's sleeping in the bathroom sink

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Pet it from me :D

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Just for reference I do not watch pap TV my convoluted methods are incredibly simple if you are not scared of tech and IT . My tastes are clear on the TV show threads on this forum

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Follow up to the 'buying online' fiasco.

Spent 10 minutes on the phone trying to get through to a human at the bank.
10 minutes of a recorded voice telling me which wonderful services they can offer me, and the apps & websites to use.
10 minutes of me repeating *a certain naughty phrase* while waiting . . I read something online the other day about people giving abuse to AI, not surprised in the least . .
Anyway, eventually reached a pleasant woman who couldn't sort me out today . . . because after confirming all the security crap she threw at me that tied me to the account, I still need to be contacted by posted letter containing a code I have to ring back* and pass on to them.


*quite obviously another frustrating 10 minutes of uttering spectacular swear words at an inanimate object . . . such is life. :rolleyes:

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Why are you stressing out at your own doings? Bit mental no expecting different results :shrug:

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It's not 'my own doings' at all.

It's not me that decided I have to jump through hoops to spend my own money.
It wasn't me that thought making financial transactions online was easier and more secure than carrying cash . . until it wasn't.
It's not me that put in place 14 levels of security to access my bank account, yet it still wasn't good enough for them to act on.

I still like a modicum of control on how I live my life, not how the machines and their masters want me to live.

:PP:

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:rofl: you want to buy something. You're the problem. Don't buy it and watch how it no longer becomes a problem. :nutter:

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Funnily enough that's what happened :D

However, the problem will occur the next time I try to purchase online . . I say online because nobody stocks anything now (apart from garbage)

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That’s going well for you… ;)

Strange - I pay for things online quite frequently, using 2 Factor Authentication, and don’t have any of these issues.

I think I can see a common factor/theme in your shopping issues…

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I think what is holding Carth back is the age of their bank account and lack of use in more modern ways. I would personally consider setting up a new modern account that will be app based from the off. The lack of proper contact details means the delay while waiting for the 2FA via mail

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1 it's his wife that really wants it ?
2 he's as tight as a ducks ....?

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So, the GP surgery managed to fit me and our twins in for flu jabs next week after cancellations.

But today I was called and told that mine is being postponed for another 3 weeks, as they only have enough jabs until midday that day. And they can't request another batch until ALL the ones they have have been used.

The missus is still housebound, and the GP will not do a house call to give her a jab.

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My GP called me last month out of the blue and arranged a home visit for the flu jab on the 21st Oct. I must be lucky (or just unlucky to be put forward for it).

My wife is getting hers done at work in Nov via her company.

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Why does nobody get that I don't want apps all over the phone, or a new state of the art bank account (lol)
You guys are happy with your aps and 6 levels of security, I'm happier if I can walk into a shop and pay cash (or use a debit card without revealing the story of my life) :D

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See this is a YOU problem wanting to live in the dark ages, you're basically making your life difficult for yourself, having a banking app is extremely helpful and can stop fraud when it happens alot quicker.

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i don't have a banking app on my phone,i have an online account via my pc and a debit card works for me

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And yet…

;)

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End of the day I simply wanted a computer desk . . . it's easier to get a damn shotgun license.

:scratch: . . there's an idea :D

edit: (for Hugh)
as mentioned earlier to thenry, this 'little' snag is going to occur again . . and again, and again, so I decided to simply (LMAO - simply) add my phone number to the account.

Yeah right, as if anything is simple now :rolleyes:

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It’s easy - just log on to your app, go to profile, and add/change telephone number - takes about 10-15 seconds…

Oh, wait… ;)

Problem with using your online account through a web interface is that they will want to send you a confirmation code to your phone number…

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but you are not happy are you because you can not just walk into shops and buy what you want nowadays. Yes society suffer for it but it is what it is .

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As opposed to wanting you to login to an app and then approve a transaction.

Getting the sms code is as quick, and often quicker, in my experience.

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It was in reference to his point he was trying to put his phone number on to his bank account, as it wasn’t there, so it would be problematic getting an SMS…

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There was never a need for it to be there, they still send letters (not emails) about any changes

. . . and how many times do you see it said "the bank will never ring you . . "

;)

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they ring you if you win the botswanan national lottery :erm:

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It’s for the security code they send you by SMS, so you can confirm it’s you on the bank’s website, so you don’t have to wait a week for the letter with it to arrive, then have to ring them and undergo the frustration you described previously…

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I have seen that never. They say they will never ask certain details that could compromise the account if given the wrong people but of course they call you. If they suspect a fraudulent transaction what is the quickest way to find out? yes speak to the customer and how pray tell do they try to do that quickly? that is right they call you . I personally then say thank you very much hang up and call a known legit number for the bank and ask for clarification on what has happened but no they do not say they will never call you

Oh and you do not need to bank online to get your card spoofed it can happen at a cashpoint

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https://www.lloydsbank.com/help-guid...otect-you.html

ybmv…

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Yes, needing a verification/security code sent to the phone before you can buy anything online, which is why I now need to (not to be confused with want to) give them my phone number.

"Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
Where have you been?
It's all right, we know where you've been"

Pink Floyd 1975 ;)

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I do not know what ybmv means google says You Butterfly Me Vintage I doubt you mean that.

The link says a lot of things they will not ask which is what I said but shorter but the fraud dep. It is common practice for them to call for possible fraud unless they can report it through the app

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Love Floyd and Wish you were here is a great album

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your bank may vary?

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That would make sense however the lloyds link does not say they will not call you so i dunno why I was quoted in

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My bank says they will call me for legitimate fraud checks, although I never pickup the phone if I don't know who's calling, I would expect my banking app to flag something but I've never been in a situation with anything dodgy as far as I know with my main bank and savings bank.

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Ditto :D

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As papa says, "your bank may vary", which was for Carth - my post was in support of yours (sorry that wasn’t clear).

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I rarely see dog poop on the paths these days, but a neighbour shares a fairly new pet hate with me now that we have several reusable bags and containers to put out for recycling.

It's dog owners who let their pets pee all over those containers when they are out on the pavement.

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Text is so hard to get inference right :-) sorry I misunderstood :-)

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spray vinegar or diluted essential oils . Strong smells like that repel dogs

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I dont have any banking apps on my phone.
I have them on my tablet, much bigger, and never leaves the house.