Cable Forum - UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

This is better Han any recent box set I have downloaded.

PM sends unsigned letter, accompanied with another letter telling them not to grant an extension.

Putting the EU in a very awkward position. They have a generic letter from no-one asking for a delay, and s signed letter from a member state’s leader asking them not to acquiesce to the former non-personalised letter.

The EU deals with the Government and not Parliament so in theory they should respect the letter from Boris Johnson more. But his letter doesn't actively ask them to reject, not threaten consequences should they grant it. It could just be another little stunt to obscure the legal fact the letter has been sent.

Or maybe it'll work. I don't know.

OLD BOY

19-10-2019 22:55

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36014437)

He didn't seem like much of a winner, he could be in jail this time next week ! ;)

If he is trying to 'win', you can be sure it's only for himself. A very disunited kingdom will be the result, in which we'll all end up poorer.

Er, I think you are forgetting that the electorate voted to leave. Do keep up, Mr K! :D

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36014439)

Thing is, it won't be the end will it ? This was meant to be the easy bit, the next bit, agreeing a trade deal, could drag on for years. Enjoy, I'm sure it's all worth it !

No, it really won't. The electorate will return Boris with a majority because he made it all end and we will no longer have to worry about parliament trying to thwart the government's every move.

The trade deal will be a piece of cake compared to what we have been through.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36014442)

They'll grant a delay anyway signed, or not. The courts will not be amused with his antics.

No, they really won't! What would be the point?

Arthurgray50@blu

19-10-2019 23:18

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I am getting sick and tired of this awful Brexit crap.
Joker Boris, is still planning on leaving the EU.
But, we have another joker in Jeremy just joining the queue.
Do you know what, l think all MPs are a joke.
Our tax money is paying a load of prats to mess about with our lives

Mick	19-10-2019 23:38

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36014437)

I see you’re still peddling the bullshit about the being poorer bit. Do give it a rest FFS. :dozey:

1andrew1

19-10-2019 23:59

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36014449)

I see you’re still peddling the bullshit about the being poorer bit. Do give it a rest FFS. :dozey:

Pretty much all the analysis points that way, I'm afraid, Mick. But it's an acceptable position to say that there's more to life than money and that a reduction in economic growth is outweighed by less tangible benefits.

OLD BOY

20-10-2019 01:06

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 36014448)

I am getting sick and tired of this awful Brexit crap.
Joker Boris, is still planning on leaving the EU.
But, we have another joker in Jeremy just joining the queue.
Do you know what, l think all MPs are a joke.
Our tax money is paying a load of prats to mess about with our lives

Brexit is what the electorate voted for. Why do you have a problem with what Boris is trying to achieve? Are you an anarchist? Communist? Or what?

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36014451)

Analysis? Is that what you call it? Where is the analysis about the opportunities that Brexit presents?

As I have said many times before, these 'expert' forecasts are only constructed on the negatives. They are absolutely worthless in determining the outcome of Brexit.

TheDaddy

20-10-2019 07:16

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36014454)

Brexit is what the electorate voted for. Why do you have a problem with what Boris is trying to achieve? Are you an anarchist? Communist? Or what?

Worse he's a leaver.... :)

denphone

20-10-2019 07:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36014454)

Brexit is what the electorate voted for. Why do you have a problem with what Boris is trying to achieve? Are you an anarchist? Communist? Or what?

Arthur is entitled to his view as is everybody else on here so don't try to belittle him just because he does not share your self-righteous opinions.

Carth

20-10-2019 08:31

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I have a sneaky suspicion that World Leaders and members of the EU Council don't read this forum.

I have no doubt however, that they do follow the news quite closely - especially political news.

In which case they should all know by now that Boris doesn't want an extension, but is being forced into sending a letter regarding one.

Which in some way makes me wonder why they should be bothered negotiating at all if everything keeps getting turned on its head by the opposing parties and law courts

papa smurf

20-10-2019 09:27

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 36014448)

I agree with that :tu:

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Boris Johnson sends the EU THREE letters: One (not signed by him) asks to delay Brexit beyond Oct 31, the second makes clear the first is from Parliament - not the Government, and the third urges Brussels NOT to grant an extension

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ant-delay.html

1andrew1

20-10-2019 09:47

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36014454)

B
Analysis? Is that what you call it? Where is the analysis about the opportunities that Brexit presents?

As I have said many times before, these 'expert' forecasts are only constructed on the negatives. They are absolutely worthless in determining the outcome of Brexit.

Wrong, they include forecasts of additional trade we may get as a result of Brexit. But we've done this argument to death before and I accept that you believe all civil servants and advisers to the UK Government, CBI, Chambers of Commerce and Conservative Party have secretly conspired together.

Mr K	20-10-2019 10:04

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36014449)

I see you’re still peddling the bullshit about the being poorer bit. Do give it a rest FFS. :dozey:

There is room for different views on here,, isn't there Mick? If not, you might as well close the Current Affairs section down.

Carth

20-10-2019 10:25

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There are different definitions of 'being poorer', they don't all apply to everybody.

One mention on here was of everybody being £800 a year poorer . . . that's about the cost of a decent mobile phone, a set of tyres on a 4 x 4, a weeks supply of heroin (probably), and a bottle of your average Brandy every week.

Poorer can also mean the loss of jobs & services, but that's been happening for many years anyway, progress doesn't necessarily mean things improve ;)

jfman

20-10-2019 10:26

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I love how carefully crafted “his” letter is. Hope the Civil Servants and lawyers got overtime for pulling it together on a Saturday.

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