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I understand how angry some are but cancelling now might be jumping from the frying pan to the fire. If this is not defeated now you might well jump to an isp that within your contract time decides "if they are doing it and making money i will too". Trust me i get the anger and disillusionment with VM i feel it as strongly as anyone and feel that after all the years i have been a customer with comtel\ntl\VM i deserve better treatment. But until the market splits into the ones that have phorm and those that make a full permenent commitment not to have phorm i think jumping ship could be causing more trouble and cost then it is worth atm.
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Is this the same 121 that infected all of us windows xp users at one time or another with all that adware crap that you could never get off your machine with the annoying you might have adaware on your machine buy this now forever on your taskbar untill you did a full format, if it is im sorry to say i wont be keeping any of vm's services at all, that back then was one of the biggest nuisances on the net and i bet this phorm one is even bigger coming from those idiots :(.
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Anyone else noticed that PhormPrTeam have vanished again after only one post? Its been 3 hours since they last posted. Well, they do say that if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
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Could you imagine a team of lawyers and publicists sat around a PC deciding on how best to 'spin' each individual posting? |
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Do you really think we're all idiots who believe every word spouted by a 'PR' team who are, at best, delusional |
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generic answers are such fun.... and this ones not been mentioned in a while.
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I have already alerted US friends of mine to what is going on here and how it is likely to start there too. They arent impressed one iota. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Seeing as there aren't really separate threads in this discussion, thought this might be of interest to the main group here, especially in light of the privacy comments being made. Today's ICO survey (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7304455.stm) on data protection highlights why the Phorm system is actually an improvement in online privacy.
We don't store any personally identifiable information so there is nothing to lose. We can't accidently reveal what we don't have unlike the ad targeting systems of other major Internet companies which retain identifiable personal data for over 12 months before it is even anonymised. |
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More blatant lies. not once in that article does it mention Phorm and say how wonderful it is in comparison. Of course with the Phorm malware we'd be living in a privacy utopia with pink fluffy bunnies and happy smiling rainbows as endorsed by... ohh wait.. no-one!
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You really are getting desperate. did you also do the PR for the emperors new clothes? |
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When you've played for a local cricket club you get to see some really poor efforts at spin and this is a *really* poor effort. Why hasn't Phorm answered the technical questions posed here or addressed the issues raised in public forums elsewhere? There is no mention of Phorm in that report at all. If you can't or won't answer the technical questions put to you then please don't waste time here with placatory spin. I've replied to Ian Woodham and also written to Neil Berkett with an executive management summary of why Virgin Media's brand will be irreparably tarnished by associating with Phorm. Including the very informative article mentioned elsewhere. I'm staying Phorm phree. Not wanted, not needed. |
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What we object to, as many many people here and elsewhere have said, is the interception of our data by your software. What also worries us is that the Phorm patents allow for storage of personal data. So although at the moment you might not store our data, software creep can (and does) occur. |
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