Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Portion of chips at £4.50?

In North West Leeds, Midgeleys (a really good fish and chip shop) sells a large portion of chips (enough for two people) for £3.45.

A good size fish and chips is £10.75, but it really fills you up.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Down near Cambridge a regular portion of chips is £3.79 which is enough for 2 people and large is £4.99.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

'Cheap as chips' isn't that cheap anymore :(

When they start charging for 'scraps' will be be the end of days....

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

when i was a kid in the early sixties we used to get a 1d bag of scraps from the chippy

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

The house is too warm at 26c and the heatings not even on, tomorrow morning is said to feel like 6c at 6am so I may have to not go into work in shorts! Then I'll melt in my Clean room suit.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

My diesel is now £2.23 per litre, that just over £10 a gallon.


Yes I put BP Ultimate in, but even still, Standard diesel is £2.00 per litre in BP & Sainsbury's

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

That's expensive, I'd advise anyone who can go electric to change.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

It'll be several years before I'm confident enough to get an electric car due to the serious lack of infrastructure for charging in this country, not everyone can easily charge at home or frequently enough. I've just bought another petrol car and I think my next will also be petrol in 6 plus years time.

My moan...
Squirrels dug dozens of holes in my lawn when I'm trying to get it to recover from the heatwave!

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

That's why I said those who can. In 18 months we've only had one issue and that was waiting maybe 20 mins for a charger to become free on one of our monthly trips from West Yorkshire to North Wales.

We're still on a ridiculously cheap night-time tariff of 4.69 p/kWh, but even when it goes up next July I'm confident it'll be well under 10 p/kWh. To put that in to context, I used to get about 300 miles out of a £60 tank of petrol - would cost much more now I'd wager. The car we've got now uses about 30 KW per 100 miles so even at 10 p/kWh that's £9 to fill it up. Well worth a few mins inconvenience once every 18 months.

We used to pay about £300/month petrol and £250/month gas and electric. Now we've had solar and batteries fitted we're paying £0/month petrol £140/month gas and electric and we're £1200 in credit.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

If you ever get to visit Beamish open air museum they have a 1900s ‘zone’ which includes a garage, and they have a load of jerrycans stacked up - this was how you used to get your petrol in the early days.

50 years from now, people will look back on this era and it will seem like that to them. Quaint and a bit ramshackle and hit and miss. It is certainly the case that driving electric requires a little planning, especially if you’re going any great distance, and TBH if you are going long distance it is annoyingly expensive because the charger operators are absolutely gouging the market due to lack of local competition. But if circumstances permit, and you can plan for it, then electric motoring is cheap, clean and really quite fun.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Granted electric motoring seems much cheaper than petrol . . however if you can't afford an electric car and also don't have (again can't afford) solar panels and batteries the only alternative is the petrol car you already have . . and the bus when the car reaches end of life. ;)

looking long term, who the heck will need a car anyway when everything is bought and delivered online :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

My 11+ year old Ford Deisel has gone now.
I'll be getting a Hybrid soon, just waiting on a delivery date.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Well I won't be buying an EV as I don't have a drive and I can't guarantee
parking in my street let alone outside my house

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Looked at this ........but change car (s) say £40000 per car install EV charger £ 400 to £1000. So somewhere around £80000 for two cars to be on the road . Won't spend that much on fuel if I lived to 200 :erm:

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I guess you don't need to buy a NEW one, £40K is alot, when I buy Petrol cars I aim for 3 years old.

Anyway I'm not touching an EV with a barge pole until I don't have any other option.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

You can get decent EVs second hand for less than £20k.

Or you could buy a top of the range Tesla for £16,500 with only 340,000 miles on the clock.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...02607023841251

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

You can lease new electric cars for reasonable prices.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

i keep getting e mails from a very desperate labour party,it seems they are trying to build up funds to counter reform,i think it's because i was in a union before i retired,anyhoo sod off you parasites

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I'd be pissed off if I got emails from any political party, it's bad enough with any of them knocking on my door.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Just heard that the worktops for our new kitchen are delayed, again. The large unit that was in stock isn't and needs to be manufactured.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

So that would be about £35, 000 for two second hand cars , a SUV and a city car . The statement stands an awful lot of gas more than i would ever need . Plus all the extra time needed to charge when on the road. Not even sure how many I,d find many between my house and my holiday home , but again l never looked.:shocked: can't believe you think 340,000 miles ok. My city car has only done 2600 in 4 years :erm: saying this if and it's a big if l had to get a new car it would be an EV .

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

My father just bought a brand new Honda Jazz Hybrid . He said for the price difference to second plus he is 83 and says it is likely his last car so he treated himself. Self charges so will spend most its life on petrol

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

just topped up my diesel tank 1.5 gallons for 2 1/2 months use ,thank you bus pass :)

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

What's a Bus? :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

one every 8 mins just around the corner from my house, drops me 200mtrs from my eldest sons house,and right out side the young uns house

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Surely that's a typo, and should read 'one every 8 months' :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

we do have a reform council hence the efficient service

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

What improvements in the bus services have they made since May 2026?

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Not a reform gov here but for info how things are now...

Some good improvements, and some bad to counter.

During Covid they reduced our service to 2 buses an hour, but only just reinstated the 3rd bus making it every 20 mins which helps a lot.

The online tracking (when it works, is very helpful).

They now have a screen to tell you where you are and how long to the next stop. But the voice of this is quite loud and ends up really annoying. But it's handy for those that are travelling without knowing the route.

The bad news though, is that they've scrapped a lot of the price plans. My wife gets the bus to work every day, a yearly pass was £590, then it went up to £700. Now they've scrapped the yearly pass and now they only offer a 3 monthly pass which is £215 which bring it up to £860 a year.

Luckily we ended up buying the yearly pass on their app before they ended it and got 3 years worth stacked up saving nearly £500.

Bus prices are a rip off. Glad to have a disabled bus pass at least and to be able to use before 9.30am next year will help a bit.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

£3 per trip (atm, or £2 from next Jan) doesnt really seem like a rip off.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

from my house to town would be £3 but i have a bus pass ,when i was a teenager it was 2p
when i was 18 i worked in hull for 6 months the bus fare was 5p [local bus] from near guest house to work place it was quite a journey

i think public transport costs are way too high today but then i don't have to pay anymore

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

The odd trip here and there is fine and acceptable. But having to rely on buses every day and it's now close to £900 a year and when there's no other choice but to pay then yeah it's a rip off. When it was under £600 2-3 years ago.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

If you work 5 days a week, and have 5 weeks holiday, plus bank holidays then 52x5-33 = £681 per year, not a rip off at all. In 2027 it will be £454.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Is that including the daily return fare as well? And travel at the weekends and during holiday time?

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

it is nearly £1400 a year when you consider return fares

Or as it has gone to statistics it is 5.6% of someone working 39 hours per week on minimum wage

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

it's pretty cheap on a bicycle ;)

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

. . and easier to find work, never mind get to it . . . according to old Norman

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

young uns today they don't know their born,my first job was as a pit pony,i worked 26 hours a day for two and thruppance a week,and cycled 80 miles home ......

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

As it stands here, it's £2.40 a single fare or £4.60 a day pass. Without the passes it would be £1044.20 a year.

Next year the price of the single will be £2 so will be £4 daily. So £908 (Extra if you use the bus in your holiday/weekends)

2-3 years ago a yearly pass (using the app) was £580 and £600 online. Which then went up to £650 last year.

This year they've scrapped the yearly pass and now penalising workers that rely on the bus to get to and from work. The best choice now is a new 3 monthly pass at £215 so a year now would be £860. So quite a jump from £650 to £860 in just a year.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Instead of shooting for the moon and beyond, we should be putting all our brains and technology resources into teleportation.

Imagine how much that would help people and the planet :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

that kind of money would fund a moped then you don't need to rely on busses

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I heard nothing about this until a radio report this morning.

The Minimum Unit Price for alcohol in Wales has been increased from 50p per unit to 65p per unit.

A 500ml can of beer or cider will rise from £1 to at least £1.30.
A 70cl bottle of 12% wine will rise from £4.20 to at least £5.46.
A litre bottle of 40% spirits will rise from £20 to at least £26.

The extra money was supposed to go into the pockets of "small shop owners". But it is going to the brewers, distillers, wholesalers and distributors. And it attracts extra VAT of course.

The 65p MUP was introduced in Scotland in September 2024. In 2025, there were 1,133 drug use deaths registered in Scotland, marking an 11% increase from the previous year and maintaining the highest fatality rate in Europe.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Nope, it does not.
However, its still not a rip off.

What exactly is cheaper ?

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

A 31.5% increase in one year is a rip off for those that rely on buses every day to get to and from work.

The odd trip here and there could be seen as good value.

As for what exactly is cheaper is irrelevant.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

One persons idea of a rip off differs from another. It all depends on how tall your ivory tower is.

This is generally middle class forum so their idea of affordable would differ massively to mine.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

to me bus fares are horrendous, £3 for a short hop :td:. i wonder if the messiah has thought through his £2 fare cap given the escalating price of diesel

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Thing is the buses run whether full or empty . Yes it will use more diesel if people are on them but as with most things they do not see that. A full bus of passengers paying £2 will earn a hell of a lot more revenue than an empty buss charging over £3

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

It costs me £2.50 more to get a cab back from town which drops me outside my home. I'd wait for a bus if it was £3.50.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

If you walked you'd need less 'fat' jabs ;)

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Lol.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I used to walk everywhere at 7 stone. I guess I need to get back to that weight to walk more :p:

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I was 8st once, I didn't have the energy to walk anywhere. I'm 5ft10 but at 8st it was an issue that was taken seriously as it was not healthy at all. 7st?? hmm right.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

It worked for me :shrug: I never felt like a fighter but I was very light. 7stone 164cm/5'4

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

With you being a short arse Oompa-Loompa your correct weight is 7st10 to 10st5.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Ah right, so there isnt anything cheaper then. ;)

---------- Post added at 22:15 ---------- Previous post was at 22:14 ----------

Dont have one, Ivory is a rip off. :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

If that's all you can come up with then the point is lost on you. :rolleyes:

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I went to give the lawn a quick mow because it has 80% turned green again and It's still a mess(thanks squirrels!) and long so thought this would be the final cut before it gets too wet.

The battery on my mower was having second thoughts, I got 50% done before it ran out of charge, so now have to wait an hour or so until I get enough charge to finish.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

this is why you adopt an eco system around a battery type. All my cordless power tools including mower and strimmer are worx and I got a stupid number of batteries now

Worx tools I own
2 drill drivers
Impact driver
SDS drill
jigsaw/reciprocating saw in one
circular hand saw
angle grinder
sander
oscillating tool
Workbench
glue gun
lawn mower
strimmer
jet wash
I think that is it haha

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I normally charge after every use but last time I didn't. I probably should have kept the 2ah batteries they originally sent instead of insisting they send me the 4ah battery that was meant to be in the order.

Not to worry though Bosch sent me a Ferrari of a lawn mower as a warranty replacement based on the cost of the mower I originally boughtxso it was a huge win(assuming this one still works next spring).

Gardens done now, maybe one more cut needed if it doesn't get too wet later this month, it's got more bald patches than the back of my head though! So hoping the grass spreads.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Got free bus pass but can't recall the last time I went on a bus:confused:

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Explosion in the bathroom everywhere at 6am this morning! :shocked:

Now wondering how long it's going to last and if I will be going into work tomorrow or if I'll be sitting on the loo all week!

Hoping it's not my blood pressure pills causing it.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

is that code for the shits

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I've never known anything like it, a fart is not necessarily a fart, at least I wasn't in bed!

The pills I found are 16 years out of date..... But still taking them.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

i would say given the reaction your body has had and their age these pills are unsafe

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke :rofl:

Why you taking gone off stuff that'll most likely add to your arse pains hahaha lol

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

These pills are being taken after the events.

Edit
New pills now, life feels normal again until the next fart...

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Probably just the body telling you, in its quaint little way, that you may have eaten something that was slightly dodgy.

The good news is it probably isn't Ebola or Dengue fever . . but I'm not a doctor :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Your comment again hasn't disappointed! :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Super glue your bum cheeks together then jump and clap :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

It's called sharting ;)

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

The gift that keeps giving :LOL:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/405697...rival-meeting/

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Boiler's just tripped out and won't reset.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Thermal trip?
First time trying the central heating?
Pump jammed?
Low pressure?
Exhaust gas vent blocked or fan jammed?

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

sounds like one of those shaking of the head and sucking of the teeth jobs,before being told you need a new house

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Working fine this morning.

Worse than that, Mrs G is wanting a shower and doesn't do cold.

Have got cover on the house insurance and plumber coming between 4 and 8pm today.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Turn it off at the wall, wait for 5 minutes, then turn back on again. This is how the tech reset ours 3 years on the trot.

It's a common saying for a reason.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Does it work with the wife?


asking for a friend ;)

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

and if turning it off and on again doesn't work, we are out of ideas

Spoken like a true IT expert :)

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

All things are quiet on the western front today so no idea what happened!

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

You shit yourself that's what happened you scaredy cat :LOL:

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

he did a donald

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Nah, SnoopZ didn't proclaim it as the biggliest and besterist pooh in the World . . . although it maybe felt like it ;)

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Have radio 4 on for most of the morning Mondays to Friday. So I end up half listening, every day I heard the mention of smart speakers, ie " say to your speaker play radio 4. Except the presenter on woman's hour who says , say to your smart speaker ALEX play radio 4. Starting to wonder how much she might be paid :shocked:

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

People spend a lot of time talking to gadgets and telling them what to do, saves energy getting up off the sofa I guess :rolleyes:

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Looking at the splatter on the bathroom floor walls and me, it was an experience I never want to repeat lol.

---------- Post added at 14:49 ---------- Previous post was at 14:48 ----------

Definitely... :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

it was inside you what does it matter if it ends up on you ? it washes off haha

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Farmer Moss :D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I know shit happens.... Lol

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

The guy on the till asked why I hadn't bought gin for the missus. I told him that even she refuses to pay the extra £6.88 that has been slapped onto the bottle price by the puritanical socialists in the Welsh Arsembly.

I'll be taking a drive over the border to stock up there.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

What gin do you buy for it to go up that much ?

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

It's the Minimum Unit Price for alcohol policy in Wales. It was 50p per unit and is now 65p per unit, the same as in Scotland.

So a litre of 37.5% gin that is £17.50 in England, was £18.75 in Wales before October 1st, and now £24.38 since that date.

I was advised to have a look at Amazon, and the missus made an account, and an order is on the way at £17.49 per litre with 5% as well. :D:D

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

My brother lives just the other side of the Scotland/England border, he says most people in his area take short(ish) trips to Carlisle for a fair bit of (mainly alcoholic) stuff ;)

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

yeah I buy from Amazon too. That is a crazy increase

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

So Amazon dont have to charge you the Unit Price ?

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Have you never had an Amazon account? I order most of my stuff from there although I don't touch Alcohol much.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

I joined them way back in 2002, when they basically just did books. :D
These days I'm sure our house keeps the Amazon drivers around here in work, multiple deliveries every week. :angel:

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Just checked, February 2005 for me.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

No they don’t, because technically, you aren’t buying it in Wales, (or Scotland), you are buying from ‘an entity’ with no presence there.

Hypothetically if you lived in Wales (close to the English border to make it worth while), popped across, loaded up your car boot with gin and then drove back - you are not going to be stopped and made to pay the difference.

Similarly order from Amazon, the actual ‘purchase’ might be legally in Dublin, or London, or Norwich, just the delivery is somewhere in Cardiff. And the rules state that the ‘purchase’ has to be made in Wales.

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

Lots of other options for booze then but amazons normal spirit price is normally pretty good if you are not fussy in brands. Got to say though it is punishing venues and stores

Re: Moans and Pet Hates
 

. . and there's one of the major problems with these big warehouse type outlets and online shopping habits. Jobs disappear as smaller places close down, so that's less tax and NI incoming and more unemployment benefits outgoing.

Of course there's the argument that jobs are then created through the need for delivery drivers (including all the returned parcels), but those drivers also don't pay business rates and/or rent on town center premises.