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Taf	02-10-2022 19:19

Re: The energy crisis

I've finally been able to give Scottish Power my meter readings after starting Friday evening.

Kursk

02-10-2022 19:52

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135719)

Difference being I don’t have the ability/stupidity to make the Nation’s Pension Schemes illiquid, requiring the BoE to intervene at a cost of £5 billion per day ;)

So, we’re agreed that the Chancellor knew he could cause the Pension Schemes to go illiquid, and raise the cost of borrowing for the money to pay for the extra he was giving bankers and those earning over £155k?

Doesn’t sound very clever…

Addendum: I don’t trust Energy/Telecoms companies billing systems, having spent a reasonable proportion of my working life implementing/fixing them - in fact, my one of my last jobs before retiring was as the Head of Programmes on Billing Remediation in one of the Big Six Energy companies (my teams had to fix whatever cock-ups the new releases caused, and there were new releases monthly).

So, to set your mind at rest, I take readings from our Smart Meters on the 25th of each month (billing day), the next day I download the PDF bills and store those, and every quarter I review what I have stored against what the Utility Companies say (because, from previous experience, I have seen historical bills amended on systems), and if there are issues, I will highlight those with the Supplier (I haven’t found any with ShellEnergy).

Well, according to the paper, the BoE (and the Pensions Regulator) have allowed the UK’s largest company pension schemes to engage in dangerous investment strategies for some time and it was this that was really responsible for the near collapse.

I share your mistrust of energy companies. You do seem to be a high consumer though.

GrimUpNorth

02-10-2022 19:58

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36135727)

I've finally been able to give Scottish Power my meter readings after starting Friday evening.

Same here, took a couple of days to log in. Last week they suggested we raise the DD to £272 from £262 (which I did) and today they're suggesting it should be £271 (which I didn't do).

My understanding is Scottish Power will be paying the £400 by monthly refunds to our bank, so by this time next year we'll be paying the wrong side of £300 per month as we're the best part of £450 in credit.

RichardCoulter

03-10-2022 00:31

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@ Hugh.

I thought of you yesterday whilst researching ways to cut down on energy use. It said that turning off the radiators in unused bedrooms and keeping the door closed will help to cut costs.

It also said to lower the radiators in other rooms and only keep the main room (usually the living room) at a decent temperature and keeping the door closed.

The thing is, isn't the whole point of central heating to be able to have the house warm and being able to not bother about closing the inner doors?

As do that, we might as well turn off the central heating completely and go back to the days of gathering round the gas fire!!

I do think it's worth closing your unused bedroom doors though.

Taf	03-10-2022 11:20

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36135751)

@ Hugh.

I thought of you yesterday whilst researching ways to cut down on energy use. It said that turning off the radiators in unused bedrooms and keeping the door closed will help to cut costs..

In our household, once the heating is activated, if you go through a door, you shut it behind you. Turning off radiators is not the best idea. If you have TRVs (thermostatic radiator valves) turn them down low, even to the frost protection level, to stop them freezing.

Warm, humid air entering a cold room will soon cause damp and mould.

Our heating during the coldest periods of the year, comes on for 2 hours before we get up, then runs until midday when it goes off for an hour whilst we are cooking with a window open to let the damp air out. It then runs again until it's time to cook the evening meal. And no heating after 9pm, so the choice is to put on a jumper or get under your quilt.

1andrew1

03-10-2022 13:11

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'Significant risk' of UK gas supply emergency, energy regulator warns

The information, which was revealed in a letter sent from Ofgem last week and first revealed by The Times, spoke of the possibility of "gas supply emergency" measures to help preserve stocks due to the impact of Russia's war in Ukraine which has starved Europe of its main source of natural gas.

A gas supply emergency can be declared when suppliers are unable to safely get gas to homes and businesses.

It could mean that some customers, starting with the largest industrial consumers, will be asked to stop using gas for a temporary period.

The aim would be to keep gas and gas-generated electricity supplies stable for households for as long as possible.

Sky News was expecting a statement from Ofgem to clarify its official position.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news...db643147b46892

Hugh	03-10-2022 14:00

Re: The energy crisis

In a positive note, it could reduce our domestic Gas bills…

(apologies if I pre-empted OB’s post)

Jaymoss

03-10-2022 14:08

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135832)

In a positive note, it could reduce our domestic Gas bills…

(apologies if I pre-empted OB’s post)

still get screwed by the standing charges. What's the chances we get a refund when they can not supply us

jonbxx

03-10-2022 15:52

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36135804)

Our house, an ex-1930s council house had terrible condensation issues in the winter so we did similar, opening the windows. Last year, we got a dehumidifier and it has transformed things. We don’t need to have the windows open and the house is quicker to heat. We also noticed that we didn’t need the heating in during the day last winter.

I think it’s a combination of dry air ‘feeling’ warmer, dry air being quicker to heat and not wasting heating power evaporating water.

Taf	03-10-2022 18:58

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36135851)

Last year, we got a dehumidifier and it has transformed things.

The "waste" of a dehumidifier is not just a bowl of water, but actual HEAT! In a previous home, the only time the corridor got warm during the winter was when the (borrowed) dehumidifier was running.

RichardCoulter

03-10-2022 19:05

Re: The energy crisis

Do dehumidifiers cost a lot to run?

Mad Max

03-10-2022 19:12

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https://www.idealhome.co.uk/property...idifier-298272

Jaymoss

03-10-2022 19:28

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36135879)

Do dehumidifiers cost a lot to run?

It will have the wattage on it. It is a very easy mathematical equation.

Watts x hours used / 1000 x Unit Rate of Electricity round up for inefficiencies

spiderplant

03-10-2022 19:40

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36135886)

It will have the wattage on it. It is a very easy mathematical equation.

Watts x hours used / 1000 x Unit Rate of Electricity round up for inefficiencies

But that doesn't allow for the heat recovered

Jaymoss

03-10-2022 19:47

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36135891)

But that doesn't allow for the heat recovered

It is all close enough. I went round most of my kit measuring usage from the plug and measuring from the specs and my estimates are pretty damn close month to month and year to year

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