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jonbxx 28-04-2017 12:23
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35896620)
That faff in transporting those documents annually from Brussels to Strasbourg.[COLOR="Silver"]
Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?

papa smurf 28-04-2017 12:35
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[QUOTE=jonbxx;35896638]Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?[/

no

1andrew1 28-04-2017 12:44
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35896638)
Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?
I just asked a leaver friend to say what they liked about the EU:
- Euro, so that they're not left having to spend all their money at the end of the holiday.
- Cleaning up of sewage so that British beaches are clean again.

papa smurf 28-04-2017 12:48
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35896642)
I just asked a leaver friend to say what they liked about the EU:
- Euro, so that they're not left having to spend all their money at the end of the holiday.
- Cleaning up of sewage so that British beaches are clean again.
imaginary friend :shocked:

Hugh 28-04-2017 12:49
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35896643)
imaginary friend :shocked:
Projection... ;)

passingbat 28-04-2017 12:52
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35896638)
Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?

For people like myself, who believe firmly in independent Sovereign Nation states, and believe that the people who are really running the EU have a globalist agenda, then there is only one option: Get out whilst we can. If there are any positive aspects, they become irrelevant compared to leaving ASAP.

1andrew1 28-04-2017 13:03
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35896645)
For people like myself, who believe firmly in independent Sovereign Nation states, and believe that the people who are really running the EU have a globalist agenda, then there is only one option: Get out whilst we can. If there are any positive aspects, they become irrelevant compared to leaving ASAP.
Come on PB, despite your beliefs you must know some positive EU aspects you'd like to share on the forum? ;)

passingbat 28-04-2017 14:22
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35896648)
Come on PB, despite your beliefs you must know some positive EU aspects you'd like to share on the forum? ;)

Well, I guess I will miss the videos of Nigel Farage letting rip in the EU Parliament :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOUSYu2Tz0

tweetiepooh 28-04-2017 14:27
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I can't think of good with the EU but I can think of things that are useful but don't need the EU - free movement of people is good but rights of residence isn't. Tax free movement of goods is good but lack of freedom in tax at point of sale is not. EU blocking laws and bringing in some rights is good and EU blocking/enforcing laws and deny some rights is bad.

Overall people and goods should be able to move around the states freely but each state should be sovereign in it's own borders.

pip08456 28-04-2017 15:38
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 35896657)
I can't think of good with the EU but I can think of things that are useful but don't need the EU - free movement of people is good but rights of residence isn't. Tax free movement of goods is good but lack of freedom in tax at point of sale is not. EU blocking laws and bringing in some rights is good and EU blocking/enforcing laws and deny some rights is bad.

Overall people and goods should be able to move around the states freely but each state should be sovereign in it's own borders.
You mean the EEC which is what we joined in 1972.

passingbat 28-04-2017 17:07
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 35896657)
free movement of people is good.

I assume you mean with security checks at National borders for non nationals?

Osem 28-04-2017 18:09
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Some common sense of the Icelandic variety:

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Europe should give Britain a trade deal that closely replicates current EU-UK trading relations and not seek to punish the UK after Brexit by erecting trade barriers, the Icelandic foreign minister has told the Telegraph.

Gudlaugur Thór Thórdarson said it was in the interests of both sides to have unfettered trade in Europe “as it was before” Brexit, and that European attempts to punish Britain would rebound badly on the 27 remaining member states.

“There will be no winners if we are going to have trade barriers. I would think that at the end of the day it will be obvious that is it is in everyone’s interests to have free trade in Europe, as it was before,” he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...warns-iceland/

I'm not sure the EU does common sense though does it?... :shrug:

Mr K 28-04-2017 21:46
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35896691)
Some common sense of the Icelandic variety:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...warns-iceland/

I'm not sure the EU does common sense though does it?... :shrug:
Iceland loves trading with us. They still haven't paid us back for the 'Icesave' fiasco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icesave_dispute) and they won the 'Cod wars' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars).

pip08456 28-04-2017 23:14
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35896713)
Iceland loves trading with us. They still haven't paid us back for the 'Icesave' fiasco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icesave_dispute) and they won the 'Cod wars' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars).
Really?

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On 28 January 2013, the EFTA Court cleared Iceland of all charges, meaning that Iceland was freed from the disputed obligation for deposit guarantees worth €4.0bn (ISK 674bn) plus accrued interest to UK and the Netherlands. This caused shock, as some legal experts had suggested the ESA would win.

The repayment claim still existed as a claim on the Landsbanki receivership, who one year earlier had been ordered by the Supreme Court of Iceland to repay confiscated deposits (including minimum deposit guarantees) as priority claims, totaling ISK 852bn (£4.46bn, €5.03bn) to the UK Financial Services Compensation Scheme and ISK 282bn (€1.67bn) to De Nederlandsche Bank. By January 2016, the Landsbanki receivership had, through liquidation of assets, repaid all the priority claims.

Osem 29-04-2017 10:32
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Yep and the relevance of Iceland's banking problems to their view of the EU's handling of Brexit negotiations is what exactly? :rolleyes:

Once upon a time we had a dispute with Iceland over cod fisheries, it was quite nasty at times too. Perhaps that ought to render the opinions of their government invalid. :rofl:


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