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chass

18-06-2009 22:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34816998)

they do, do hd channels, point is to carry the amoutn of hd channels people want ie all channels in hd we would need new box even sky cusotmer would as we all need new mpeg4 boxes

arnt the new samsung box's mpeg4 ? :) so come on virgin roll then out

virginruinedntl

18-06-2009 22:48

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would save them quite a bit in bandwidth and obviously would improve the picture quality for us:) they could air the SD channels in mpeg4 with aac audio too, would greatly improve picture quality, far less pixelation.

Andrewcrawford23

18-06-2009 23:01

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Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 34817053)

problem is they would have over 3 million box to replace that would not be cheap dnt forget v box are mpeg 2 as well so they need rep[laced

but they do not need hte bandwidht yet they have pletny spare and will have more when analogue is shut off

GordonD

18-06-2009 23:22

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34816998)

they do, do hd channels, point is to carry the amoutn of hd channels people want ie all channels in hd we would need new box even sky cusotmer would as we all need new mpeg4 boxes

Sky HD boxes are mpeg 4 for HD & of course mpeg 2 for existing SD

Stephen

19-06-2009 08:02

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34816932)

Well the argument is this, why did VM spend thousands of pounds getting us to take V+Boxes, which are HD supplier, if they won't do HD channels, or is this another rip off the customer trick again, as if so, VM have ripped off thousands of people.

The main point is that the V+ is a PVR and that when they rolled it out were planning ahead so they had a box that is a PVR and can recieve HD, rather than having to have a seperate PVR box and PVR HD box like Sky does.

Jabbs

19-06-2009 08:45

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The V+ box isn't really pushed as a HD box though its pushed as said above a PVR with the added bonus of HD on it.

cupcakes aka dd

19-06-2009 09:32

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34816828)

Personally, I can't see any difference between high quality SD and HD channels on sets smaller than 50". .

:confused: I must have an exceptional 40" Sony set then. I am blessed.

Andrewcrawford23

19-06-2009 09:37

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Originally Posted by GordonD (Post 34817080)

Sky HD boxes are mpeg 4 for HD & of course mpeg 2 for existing SD

i was talking about the fact peopel want all channels in hd, to do that they would need ot go to mpeg4 even for the sd channels so sky customer would need new boxs, i was also talkign about the future UHD where to carry one channel they need the space of 12 HD channels

hansi

19-06-2009 09:44

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34816828)

Personally, I can't see any difference between high quality SD and HD channels on sets smaller than 50". To get the real HD quality requires giant screens with a wider vision larger than one's eyes.

And with my cynical hat on, I can envisage those who've waited ages for HD being a little "peeved" when they realise that their current equipment will not receive the new HD channels when/if they arrive...

Pigs will fly first before VM transmit dozens of HD channels in the bandwidth hungry MPEG2 format.

I only have a 26" TV and I can see the difference between SD and HD via the V+ Box!

Ben B

19-06-2009 11:36

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But there is a new V+ box that does do MPEG4 it's made by Samsung, just hasn't been released yet....

chass

19-06-2009 11:53

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i arnt botherd if its mpeg2 or mpeg4 id just like some hd channels

Andrewcrawford23

19-06-2009 12:05

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Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 34817299)

But there is a new V+ box that does do MPEG4 it's made by Samsung, just hasn't been released yet....

it has people have it and it gets installed mostly in new premises

Stephen

19-06-2009 12:21

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34817320)

it has people have it and it gets installed mostly in new premises

It was only on trial. They aren't installing anymore at the moment.

If you look on the left at my services I have one :)

Even though it has MPEG4 capability they aren't going to be using it.

Andrewcrawford23

19-06-2009 12:32

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34817332)

It was only on trial. They aren't installing anymore at the moment.

If you look on the left at my services I have one :)

Even though it has MPEG4 capability they aren't going to be using it.

I thought they where sitll installign them oh well, i am kind aglad i do not want one as it doe snot have rf etc. i think it got mpeg 4 for future proofijg when they eventally switch to dvb-c2 and mpeg4 so they cna have the most about of bandwidth

royaltiger

19-06-2009 12:58

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The scientific atlanta was fairly future proof, and probably the king of all cable set top boxes anyway, its just that virgin haven't quite caught up yet, even the most simplest of extras like the usb port will never get enabled otherwise it would make the transfer of media too easy for anyone,and we wouldn't want to encourage simplicity, people should realise that when you cant even get teletext let alone HD this is always going to be a 2nd best service and virgin have always reiterated that their main priority is broadband and not tv and this has been proven over the last five years if not in fact longer.

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