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Chris 14-04-2022 09:53
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36119122)
BREAKING: Russian Cruise Warship, Moskva reportedly on FIRE in Black Sea, is said to be seriously damaged - Russian crew has abandoned ship - Ukrainian News Agency.

Russian Ministry of Defence is claiming Ammunition exploding is reason for the damage.
Given earlier, repeated claims from the Ukrainian government that they did it, including details of which weapons system they used, I think an accident in the ammunition magazine is about as likely as the ammunition store in Belgorod also suffering an “accident” the other week.

This is massive for Ukraine - they have shown they can cripple the Russian navy from a distance. It makes an amphibious assault on the south west coast around Odessa all but impossible.

1andrew1 14-04-2022 09:58
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Le Pen’s comments on ‘rapprochement’ with Russia is concerning. Especially with her previous positive comments about Putin and her policy of pulling France out of NATO military resources. She’s also against sending weapons: https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...9da900d99b22da
Hope she doesn't get elected.

Sephiroth 14-04-2022 10:45
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Hope she doesn't get elected.
Hope she does. Nothing like causing serious turmoil in the EU plus that swine Macron is ousted. Doubt that my wish will be granted, though.

1andrew1 14-04-2022 11:07
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Hope she does. Nothing like causing serious turmoil in the EU plus that swine Macron is ousted. Doubt that my wish will be granted, though.
I'm no fan of Macron (especially around his misinformation on the OAZ vaccine) but he's more supportive of Ukraine and NATO than her.

Sephiroth 14-04-2022 11:17
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I'm no fan of Macron (especially around his misinformation on the OAZ vaccine) but he's more supportive of Ukraine and NATO than her.
Possibly true - but then France hasn't owned up to how much military assistance they've provided to Ukraine. So one less won't matter and the prize of EU turmoil is irresistible.

TheDaddy 14-04-2022 11:30
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36119127)
Given earlier, repeated claims from the Ukrainian government that they did it, including details of which weapons system they used, I think an accident in the ammunition magazine is about as likely as the ammunition store in Belgorod also suffering an “accident” the other week.

This is massive for Ukraine - they have shown they can cripple the Russian navy from a distance. It makes an amphibious assault on the south west coast around Odessa all but impossible.
The Russian flagship was 46 years old :shocked:

Modern navy, the funny thing is the Ukranians did it with their own designed and made missiles, it was all their own work and Russia can't blame anyone else

Damien 14-04-2022 11:50
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Possibly true - but then France hasn't owned up to how much military assistance they've provided to Ukraine. So one less won't matter and the prize of EU turmoil is irresistible.
Le Pen is much more hostile to NATO than the EU now. Pulling out of the Military Command structure would seriously reduce NATO resources and she is clearly pretty pro-Russia as well. She represents a threat to European Security IMO.

Mick 14-04-2022 12:46
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BREAKING: Russia threatens to deploy nuclear weapons in the Baltic if Sweden, Finland join NATO.

Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of Russia’s Security Council, said that Moscow would have to strengthen its defenses in the region and "there can be no more talk" of nuclear-free Baltics. - Kyiv Independent.

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EU closes loophole allowing arms sales to Russia.

According to the EU Commission data, EU countries sold Russia weapons and ammunition worth 39 million euros in 2021.

Reuters reports that France and Germany were among the largest exporters. - Kyiv Independent

Mick 14-04-2022 12:49
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pip08456 14-04-2022 12:58
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The Russian flagship was 46 years old :shocked:

Modern navy, the funny thing is the Ukranians did it with their own designed and made missiles, it was all their own work and Russia can't blame anyone else
The Moskva is the same Russian warship that was previously instructed to “go **** itself” by the defenders of Snake Island.:D

papa smurf 14-04-2022 14:22
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The Moskva is the same Russian warship that was previously instructed to “go **** itself” by the defenders of Snake Island.:D
It's definitely ****** now;)

pip08456 14-04-2022 14:35
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Impresive list of arms and equipment being sent by USA. I wonder how long it will take to get it all there.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1649943212

Ukraine could potentially wipe out the Russian Black Sea fleet with just 20 missiles. Either that of rorce them to retreat to the Southern part out of harms way.

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Russia has cannibalized its other three fleets (Northern Fleet, Baltic Fleet, and Pacific Fleet) and its one flotilla (the Caspian Flotilla) to reinforce the Black Sea Fleet and support its Ukraine effort, and, with Turkey closing the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits to the Mediterranean in early March to incoming military vessels under the 1936 Montreux Convention, that Caspian Flotilla is the only possible source of reinforcements to what is in the Black Sea, coming in though canal from the Caspian Sea, as other possible reinforcements coming in from the Mediterranean are now blocked.

As far as sizable surface ships in the Black Sea, by mid-March there were only twenty-one, according to a “senior defense official”: just twelve naval-combat-focused ships along with nine amphibious assault ships, accompanied by numerous far smaller patrol and support boats and, of course, submarines that are harder to track.
The full article is worth reading too. (written ot 10/4}.

https://realcontextnews.com/ukraine-...ship-missiles/

Chris 14-04-2022 14:40
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Who would ever have thought that there would ever be such a massive field trial of US, UK and other assorted NATO military equipment directly against Russian kit. Or that so much Russian kit would get captured more or less intact and available for NATO experts to dismantle and study. This war has been a strategic catastrophe for Russia in so many ways.

1andrew1 14-04-2022 14:51
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Impresive list of arms and equipment being sent by USA. I wonder how long it will take to get it all there.
I've read sometimes as little as 48 hours!

pip08456 14-04-2022 15:26
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Who would ever have thought that there would ever be such a massive field trial of US, UK and other assorted NATO military equipment directly against Russian kit. Or that so much Russian kit would get captured more or less intact and available for NATO experts to dismantle and study. This war has been a strategic catastrophe for Russia in so many ways.
You can say that again.

Meanwhille. New Ukrainian stamp.:D:D

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1649946340


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