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Mr Angry 14-05-2014 20:28

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@Damien & Chris

Chaps, seriously, no need to get so defensive.

It's only a link to a news story about a poll that took place, the supposed outworkings of which are being speculated upon.

Damien 14-05-2014 23:04

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35698224)
@Damien & Chris

Chaps, seriously, no need to get so defensive.

It's only a link to a news story about a poll that took place, the supposed outworkings of which are being speculated upon.

Yes but it's a negative story for Unionists as, since we perceive it to be flawed, we have a go at it for those flaws.

I'll be glad when this vote is over. I am surprised how emotional and depressing it's all become.

Mr Angry 14-05-2014 23:10

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35698264)
I'll be glad when this vote is over. I am surprised how emotional and depressing it's all become.

Ditto.

Osem 14-05-2014 23:11

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It's not depressing for me. If enough people buy Salmond's nonsense, Labour's electoral advantage will largely disappear. If they don't then we'll be better off together... :)

Damien 14-05-2014 23:15

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35698272)
It's not depressing for me. If enough people buy Salmond's nonsense, Labour's electoral advantage will largely disappear. If they don't then we'll be better off together... :)

Labour would have won at least two of their three elections. It would only favour the Tories in close run elections such as the last one. Still Labour would adjust to the right to compensate. Just as the Scottish Nat's dreams of a Toryless Scotland would be dashed by the arrival of a rebranded Scottish Conservative party free from the image of Thatcher and co and able to tailor their message to Scotland without having to consider the English Home Counties vote.

Scotland leaving would be horrible for all concerned IMO.

Chris 15-05-2014 00:08

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35698224)
@Damien & Chris

Chaps, seriously, no need to get so defensive.

It's only a link to a news story about a poll that took place, the supposed outworkings of which are being speculated upon.

Mr A, I have detected in several of your recent replies to me, an assumption that I'm being defensive. That's not the case, except in the sense that I'm 'defending' the contrary view. But I'm not getting personally agitated about it. No need to worry on that score.

Mr Angry 15-05-2014 07:36

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:tu:

Derek 15-05-2014 10:01

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35698264)
I'll be glad when this vote is over. I am surprised how emotional and depressing it's all become.

Think it's bad now, Salmond is the first Scot in history actually wanting England to win the World Cup just to get the inevitable anti-English bounce in the polls. :(

For such an important vote with such far reaching implications the standard of campaigning and information is disgraceful. The most recent cinema advert for yes is one step away from Braveheart asking for a yes vote without giving a thought for any potential downsides.

Osem 15-05-2014 13:16

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35698275)
Labour would have won at least two of their three elections. It would only favour the Tories in close run elections such as the last one. Still Labour would adjust to the right to compensate. Just as the Scottish Nat's dreams of a Toryless Scotland would be dashed by the arrival of a rebranded Scottish Conservative party free from the image of Thatcher and co and able to tailor their message to Scotland without having to consider the English Home Counties vote.

Scotland leaving would be horrible for all concerned IMO.

It's not about favouring the Tories, it's about wiping out an unfair advantage Labour have enjoyed and it'd benefit all the other parties in the rest of the UK.

@ Maggy J - Nor is about not wanting a credible opposition 'whomever is in power'. Labour would be just as credible in opposition as they are now, indeed they'd have to try a lot harder.

Still, we digress.

Damien 15-05-2014 13:38

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35698396)
It's not about favouring the Tories, it's about wiping out an unfair advantage Labour have enjoyed and it'd benefit all the other parties in the rest of the UK.

Do you mean the boundaries? That would still be a problem without Scotland I think.

Osem 16-05-2014 09:12

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This'll definitely be dismissed as 'bullying' north of the border:

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In just over five years Britain will have run out of oil, coal and gas, researchers have warned.

A report by the Global Sustainability Institute said shortages would increase dependency on Norway, Qatar and Russia.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27435624

How credible these figures are remains to be seen but it does rather highlight a major and impending problem. Someone remind me what Plan B is again...

Derek 16-05-2014 14:16

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Someone remind me what Plan B is again...

Whisky. Sell more of that.

Plan C is haggis, D is deep fried food and E is hoping for hosepipe bans in England to sell the water.

TheDaddy 16-05-2014 14:30

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35698717)
Whisky. Sell more of that.

Plan C is haggis, D is deep fried food and E is hoping for hosepipe bans in England to sell the water.

What about wind, alec's got enough in him to power all those wind turbines by himself

Osem 16-05-2014 16:11

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35698717)
Whisky. Sell more of that.

Plan C is haggis, D is deep fried food and E is hoping for hosepipe bans in England to sell the water.

:rofl:

Remind me who it was here not so long ago who advocated trucking water down to the parched south...

TheDaddy 16-05-2014 16:29

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35698743)
:rofl:

Remind me who it was here not so long ago who advocated trucking water down to the parched south...

It was you wasn't it, if it wasn't you I'm sure you thought it a very good idea at least :)


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