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Damien 31-01-2013 19:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35530020)
He knew the Police were behind him. He would have been well aware they were armed officers.

If he did ANYTHING other than follow the Police orders exactly then he would have known its likely the Police would open fire.

Personally I'd like to see the person who claimed at the trial she saw the Police plant the gun should be done with perjury.
I agree but we need to ascertain the exactly circumstances of what happened.

Osem 31-01-2013 19:45
Re: Riots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35530020)
He knew the Police were behind him. He would have been well aware they were armed officers.

If he did ANYTHING other than follow the Police orders exactly then he would have known its likely the Police would open fire.

Personally I'd like to see the person who claimed at the trial she saw the Police plant the gun should be done with perjury.
Me too! :tu:

thenry 05-02-2013 20:06
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has this been posted...

DNA tag gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk65e...e_gdata_player

Stuart 26-02-2013 19:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35529826)
And the metpoliceuk twitter feed is now reporting

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@metpoliceuk: NEWS: Kevin Hutchinson-Foster sentenced to 11 years in prison for supplying a firearm to Mark Duggan.

Sirius 26-02-2013 19:42
Re: Riots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35542004)
And the metpoliceuk twitter feed is now reporting
I saw that the riots thread came active and looked in expecting a post by GaryL :LOL:

Osem 26-02-2013 19:47
Re: Riots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35542004)
And the metpoliceuk twitter feed is now reporting
No you've got it wrong there was NO firearm remember. :erm:

thenry 26-02-2013 19:53
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so this was for nothing

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35286413)
:mad: i think ive blown a fuse listening to that again!

Derek 26-09-2013 09:20
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Mark Duggan "may not have been an angel" but he should not have been shot dead by police, his mother has said.

Pamela Duggan sobbed as her statement was read at an inquest into her son's death
Is there a specific reason why this is allowed as evidence at an inquest? Surely the only evidence should relate to whether or not the shooting was justified or not? A mothers statement would only serve as emotional ammunition to one side.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24240168

Doug P 26-09-2013 09:26
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It certainly does not come under traditional definition of a witness giving evidence which must not be opinion or hearsay but am not a legal expert.

Osem 26-09-2013 09:36
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Sorry but I have as much sympathy for the likes of Duggan as they have for their many victims.

Russ 26-09-2013 09:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35625541)
Is there a specific reason why this is allowed as evidence at an inquest?
Yep, politics.

---------- Post added at 10:59 ---------- Previous post was at 10:57 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35625550)
Sorry but I have as much sympathy for the likes of Duggan as they have for their many victims.
Yeah but don't forget he was only a (plastic) 'gangsta' because "society turned him in to one".

Damien 03-12-2013 16:28
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Inquest has heard that it was a phone, not a gun, according to a witness. This inquest is going on a long time:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...s-8980615.html

I am still not clear on if he had a gun or not.

edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24947695

Quote:
He said he was told the firearm was found approximately 14ft (4.3m) from Mr Duggan.

Nidge41 03-12-2013 17:31
Re: Riots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35651959)
Inquest has heard that it was a phone, not a gun, according to a witness. This inquest is going on a long time:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...s-8980615.html

I am still not clear on if he had a gun or not.

edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24947695
It sounds like the Police have got their stories sorted out. How can that guy who was so many floors up in the flat see that he had a gun??

While I do agree on some part with the Armed Police as they've got to make a snap decision which can result in the loss of a life.

Damien 03-12-2013 18:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nidge41 (Post 35651970)
It sounds like the Police have got their stories sorted out. How can that guy who was so many floors up in the flat see that he had a gun??
Well this is one witness amongst many in the inquest. Once it's all completed we should hopefully have a better idea.

Derek 04-12-2013 05:53
Re: Riots
 
So a witness several floors up, whose first instinct was to make money from the footage by selling it, initially says it was a gun then changes his mind to it being a phone AFTER reading newspaper reports and admits in court he hates the Police is classed as credible when he says Duggan was executed???


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