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Horizon 09-03-2010 15:27

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Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 34977145)
Ben (or anyone else who works for vm) is any truth in this -

I got called off the person who elevated my case for lack of on-demand access and he was saying that the stand alone hd boxes can be ordered from the 15th with self install for £49.99 & £15 postage

£50 for self install - bizarre. Would love to see how the VM rep describes to me what the £50 is for If I'm plugging in the box myself. I guess VM are not going to say it is the customer who subsides the bulk of the cost of the boxes yet does not own them. I guess it's better than the £150 "install" charge for V+s. How they got away with that, I never know.

gregpegg 09-03-2010 15:29

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945 Shropshire & 946 West Midlands as requested MB. Gone.

BenMcr 09-03-2010 15:38

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Originally Posted by Verizon (Post 34977189)
£50 for self install - bizarre. Would love to see how the VM rep describes to me what the £50 is for If I'm plugging in the box myself. I guess VM are not going to say it is the customer who subsides the bulk of the cost of the boxes yet does not own them. I guess it's better than the £150 "install" charge for V+s. How they got away with that, I never know.

Actually the £15 is for self install (compared with £35 to have an engineer do it)

Anything else charged is for the activation of the equipment and the service on the account.

Also as the box hasn't launched yet any prices are still not 100% confirmed

The Yank 09-03-2010 15:48

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 34977173)
100hz makes no difference to broadcast tv.

Broadcast TV is 50hz, all 100hz is doing is frame doubling, or interpolating between frames, which rather than increasing the picture quality actually just adds noise.

you have GOT to be joking. The difference is majorly noticable on digital anyway - might not be as good on analogue - still better I believe.

kgollop 09-03-2010 16:03

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 34977168)
AFAIK if it's a 2nd stb then the normal extra box price stands, if it's replacement for an existing box then there would be no extra monthly cost.

Install prices have yet to be released, but I'd expect them to be around £35.

Thanks, I'm looking to replace my additional V Box I get with the VIP Pack. I'm happy to pay an up front fee but don't want to pay anything extra per month. Which from the sounds of it should be fine.

Ben B 09-03-2010 16:04

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Platform upgrade? Second line support on the phone have said that On Demand is unavailable due to a platform upgrade in progress in my area. Is this NGTV?

Digital Fanatic 09-03-2010 16:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010)
 
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Originally Posted by Verizon (Post 34977189)
£50 for self install - bizarre. Would love to see how the VM rep describes to me what the £50 is for If I'm plugging in the box myself. I guess VM are not going to say it is the customer who subsides the bulk of the cost of the boxes yet does not own them. I guess it's better than the £150 "install" charge for V+s. How they got away with that, I never know.

The "install" charge was applied when they stopped charging for the V+ monthly (if on XL tv)... previously it was £10 a month, so 15 months later you started saving.

VM have to make some money and the customer is getting more of a service with V+HD, including any future replacement.. and service improvements (free HD?)

:)

gadge 09-03-2010 16:08

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34977194)
Actually the £15 is for self install (compared with £35 to have an engineer do it)

Anything else charged is for the activation of the equipment and the service on the account.

Also as the box hasn't launched yet any prices are still not 100% confirmed

Looks like i will be ordering one for self install then super.sky can kiss my ass.:D:D

Digital Fanatic 09-03-2010 16:10

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Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 34977213)
Platform upgrade? Second line support on the phone have said that On Demand is unavailable due to a platform upgrade in progress in my area. Is this NGTV?

NGTV upgrades are usually done in the early hours... what error codes are you getting, Ben?

TheDon 09-03-2010 16:11

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Originally Posted by The Yank (Post 34977199)
you have GOT to be joking. The difference is majorly noticable on digital anyway - might not be as good on analogue - still better I believe.

No, I'm not joking.

Please tell me how taking something that is broadcast at 50hz (50 fields per second giving 25fps) and either doubling each field, or adding in guessed data between fields can EVER increase quality?

The only thing it can do is add a perception of smoothness, but that smoothness is at the EXPENSE of quality, not in addition to it.

Digital Fanatic 09-03-2010 16:11

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Originally Posted by gadge (Post 34977216)
Looks like i will be ordering one for self install then super.sky can kiss my ass.:D:D

:D

Super Virgin HD :)

Ben B 09-03-2010 16:13

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Originally Posted by digital fanatic (Post 34977220)
ngtv upgrades are usually done in the early hours... What error codes are you getting, ben?

1059/ote14010 :(

Digital Fanatic 09-03-2010 16:19

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Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 34977225)
1059/ote14010 :(

That's a VOD (LDAP for anyone who knows) server error.. how long has that been going on for?

EDIT: I'll PM you as this is going off topic :)

The Yank 09-03-2010 16:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010)
 
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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 34977221)
No, I'm not joking.

Please tell me how taking something that is broadcast at 50hz (50 fields per second giving 25fps) and either doubling each field, or adding in guessed data between fields can EVER increase quality?

The only thing it can do is add a perception of smoothness, but that smoothness is at the EXPENSE of quality, not in addition to it.

Ok Don,

I'm no technocrat But I have had 100hz for the past 10 years and the qualityn is amazing. The flicker rate I believe.

Years ago I was in the TV department of Alders (remember them?) and they had two tv's next to one another - one 50hz, one 100hz. The difference was astonishing.

More than what I see I cannot comment on.

jtaylor06 09-03-2010 16:49

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Originally Posted by gregpegg (Post 34977191)
945 Shropshire & 946 West Midlands as requested MB. Gone.

Still showing here in Telford
V+ Samsung (Wolverhampton Headend)

However I've noticed the information box on screen looks rather bigger but there is not more info such as cast and actors described (on movies) and also on power up, it does not say powering up, just a moment (or whatever it said), instead it just showed the Virgin Media logo?

Is this normal?

EDIT: The bit at the bottom advertising on demand has now changed to Need help with on-demand? press red for our simple guide.


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