Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

If your a demonstration of intellect then ignorance is preferable. how you can say that any parent is worse then another defeats what your saying. If it is just profession that stops you thinking the worst then your opinion of parenting isn't that high.

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

You might find little evidence of people accusing them that they DID do the dirty deed here.

What people are getting confused with here is that there are those that say they are innocent full stop, and there is those that have an open mind. I'm struggling to find those that say they DID actually harm maddie with the same conviction of those that say they are innocent.

The most conflictual point is just that, how can people be so sure to the point they will say they are innocent as in 'that IS fact'.

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

I agree that they are innocent till proven guilty on the harming of maddie in whatever way that harm was meant to have been caused. Presumption of innocence is one of the cornerstones of our legal system and should always be the position people take. I have read some things on other forums that make this one seem like a tea party chat and i do not agree with it.

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

Profiling.......................

Ever heard of it?

Police use it all the time.

Shout me down all you want but my point was at the begining was that a family of two middle class GPs and 3 kids does not in my opinion fit into a profile where they would be neglectful to them and/or even kill them.

It's a generalisation, but that's what profiling is. Sure there can and will be exceptions.

But it's a valid point, so you can all calm down now.

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

I am guessing there are less incidents involving corruption than petty theft, shop-lifting, muggings etc. Although I would suspect that corruption costs even more to the population. Either way, the former does not lead to other crimes and anti-social behavior in the way poverty in inner-city estates do.

No, I am saying that poverty can led to situations in which crime is more common. As well as that in such environments their are additional strains on the parents, especially if they are single mothers (a group more likely to find themselves in poverty as well).

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

Out of interest can you tell me what profiling is and also how it works and perhaps more importantly how it used by the Police ?

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

I do disagree with this however, I do not think there is a profile for people who are more likely kill their own children.

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

I'm struggling to find anywhere where it states they killed maddie.

But it's plausible that they accidently killed maddie. Do they fit that 'profile'??

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

I seriously doubt the police would start any investigation of a missing child by seeing if they were from a council estate or whether the parent\parents were not professional. As i understand it profiling would come into it after the initial stage of investigation where as your belief would have them looking at profession first and working down from there. You just have no idea how offensive you have been to millions of people in this country do you and also while your talking about justice for the mc'canns you did a great injustice to those millions of people.

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

You'd find that from what the McCann family have to say, its more than once.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

To date I have not heard anything that condradicts this and I have seen family members on the news saying it was not a one off. Im positive the parents have alos said that it was not a one off.

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

Ok, fair enough on that one.

---------- Post added at 13:08 ---------- Previous post was at 13:07 ----------

You're a clever boy, look it up.

You weren't asking me, because you already know the answer and want to trip me up............. were you?

---------- Post added at 13:11 ---------- Previous post was at 13:08 ----------

Fair enough more than once........twice?...........Three times?

I was originall objecting this statement by Ritzy thingy

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

It does not matter what anyone says leaving a 3 year old and two 2 years alone in an apartment while you go out for a meal whether 200 yards away or in the next town is just plain wrong and it is neglect whether done daily or just once its just not on full stop.

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

If you read that article carefully you'll see that it was every night (as stated by Patricia McCann - a sister).

Further more....
Relatives of the couple revealed that the McCanns and three other couples on holiday with them, all doctors, tucked their children into bed each night and walked the 40 yards from their apartments at the Ocean Club run by British tour operators, Mark Warner in Praia da Luz on the Algarve to a poolside tapas bar.

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

Maybe I was and do. But then perhaps there are may be others on this thread who do not, so therefore my question(s) still stand

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 

I have not said that the police would be using profiling in this case.

My point was that In my opinion, no one elses. That I do not think that they come from the kind of background to willfully neglect their children - That is all.

I'm sure they'll get over it, and unless the amount of people who read this board has increased dramatically I'll doubt they ever read it to be offended.

Fortunately, I', sure all of these millions of people will sleep soundly tonight in blissful ignorance of my comments.

---------- Post added at 13:19 ---------- Previous post was at 13:16 ----------

Well it's irrelevant anyway, as my point was not that the police would be using profiling in this instance - maybe they will, maybe they wont.

I was just using the example to explain from where I was basing my gut instincts, i.e. they don't into my profile, that's all.