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Thanks

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No, I was ensuring I could stream the games through the V6.

I already assumed I would need to arrange a trial offer online - just didn't want to watch on my computer screen.

I presume, with the wonderful world of streaming, I will be able to start viewing a match at any convenient time after kick-off?

Assuming my previous assumption is correct, Anyone know how long these games will be available for?

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Live sports streaming via Amazon works fine on the V6. Their current sport has a replay option for later viewing but that may be highlights.

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So streaming (the future according to some?) means I would have to be in to watch the full match at the time it kicks off, won't be able to record it, will have to sit glued to the screen as if I were at the match (in case I miss anything) be unable to view replays of goals and other key action points? Have to choose which game to stream if more than 1 kick-off at the same time.

I have to do this to watch my favourite team play midweek championship matches and I am not in favour.

I am waiting for someone to tell me the positives behind this retrograde step.

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I don't know the answer to that, but surely that depends on what the provider decides. There is no reason why you cannot rewind the match from where you start or view it later. You can do that on the BBC iPlayer, so it is not the technology itself that prevents this.

You are correct in saying that you cannot record the stream, but its availability after the match could still be accessed, dependent on what the service provider decides/negotiates.

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I would want to watch whole games not just highlights.

I was led to believe, that I could start watching the stream of a match at any time after it actually starts within a pre-defined number of days.

If this is not the case then streaming would be a big disappointment for me!

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Understood, and technically there is nothing to prevent you from doing so. Whether Amazon will or not is another question.

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Raider - try it. Amazon Prime is excellent for the tennis. You can watch live, with pause, fast forward etc. As soon as a match is finished there is a full replay available, you can start anywhere, anytime in the replay and can FF through the breaks.

Thoroughly enjoyed 4 or 5 Andy Murray matches last week on Amazon.

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Thank you, Jacquesb, that resolves the question, I think.

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Not interested in Tennis, will wait for December to try for a months free trial for the Premier League trial, however your experiences bode well for my requirements

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BT certainly have a bigger fight on their hands that is for sure and one outcome which l believe will transpire from it will be the return of some UCL football to FTA in my view.

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Interesting in the sense it will benefit UEFA to have free to air games on ITV

Doubt Sky will enter the bidding even though they are now owned by Comcast

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ITV try for coverage each time it comes round for bidding - and they fail.

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But UEFA have made it clear that they want some of the rights to be seen by a bigger audience which they see as future FTA coverage.

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Only a few years since ITV had one game per round live - certainly wouldn't harm for UEFA to insist this happens this time round.

Not sure why they are allowed to sell all the rights to 1 bidder when the Premier League were forced to split the rights to prevent a monopoly?

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But PL does got FTA - and it UEFA were forces to split I still can't see FTA winning a bid.

Forcing the split just means the customer has to pay more for all.

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But not if ITV get a slice of the action!

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Exactly.

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Have I missed something?

All live PL matches are on pay platforms (Sky, BT and Amazon Prime) - I don't count highlights, nor do most others when discussing rights.

If UEFA want larger audience for their product then offering a 1 live game a week package to FTA platforms only is easily achievable without reducing the revenues that much if at all.

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I meant to say "But PL doesn't go to FTA".

I'm sure UEFA would prefer more money than more viewers - when the offers are in.

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Sorry, I don't agree - they have frequently shown disappointment on the viewing figures on BT.

Just having 1 match each week on FTA allows them to say they are addressing that issue - all about growing the brand - 1 FTA game may possibly attract people to want more and subscribe to BT.

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We agree to disagree - but football today has little interest in anything other than money.

BT had a FTA channel offering a free game each week.

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Whatever happened to BT's free to air channel? The last I heard about it was when it went Freeview hd only but that was many months ago. Surely if BT had a free to air channel available on ALL platforms and put some Champions league matches and Europa league matches on it that would keep UEFA happy? Mind you that said isn't that what they were originally supposed to do? Done properly though it could work for them.

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Maybe UEFA wanted more money for the FTA rights than BT were willing to pay as a subscription channel.

It had the one game a week offering but closed at the end of the 2017-18 season.

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You may be correct, however that is of little use to anyone who hasn't got access to BT channels (the majority of households I suspect)

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The free to air channel was on freeview

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There are still a lot of houses without freeview access, even these days

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BT on defensive as Sky prepares to bid for Champions League.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...l-uk-tv-rights

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Didn't sky used to show almost the full match of any 3pm kick off about 6pm on sky sports with the red button? Game of the day it was called. Has that gone?

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Still on. Sky Sports Premier League,20:30 tonight. Match choice at 22:30 when all games are available via red button,with the exception of the game that was shown on BY Sport I believe.

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To be fair with stories like this we don’t know who’s put them out there , who’s the credible source ?

Sky may very well bid who knows.

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Well we will know soon enough as the story might be a ruse as a clever way to jack up the price MM.

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Very true Den only time will tell.

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I'm always sceptical about these rumours because no sensible business would tell its rivals what they've got planned. Probably rumour came from a salesman trying to drum up more new subscribers.

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I think you are correct, as it has been said that BT are looking to scale back their investment in sport since a change in the management.

Faced with the possibility in BT reducing their bid from last time who wouldn't intimate others are interested in bidding (Sky have previously said they didn't lose subscribers when they lost CL rights) - after all the PL have done exactly that by saying Streamers were going to bid big at the last auction.

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The story seems to be gaining traction. It seems that Sky have been 'emboldened' with extra funding from Comcast.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...mpions-league/

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So must for your predictions that Sky were going to be blown out of the water...

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I've never said that, Den. You're misremembering again!

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My memory might be going OB but its quite clear and lucid when it comes to your predictions and statements.;)

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The fact is, I've never said it.

The closest I have gone towards that statement has been:

1. That Sky will ditch its satellite transmissions in favour of IPTV in the medium to long term.

2. That viewing will be via streaming rather than linear channels by 2035. Maybe that's what you are thinking of, but that by no means indicates that Sky will no longer be in existence.

3. That Murdoch has abandoned his project, successful until now, as he cannot compete with the global streamers. That's why Comcast has taken over, of course.

4. That one of the global players will bid for the Premier League football and bid against Sky, either in the 2019 or 2022 round.

5. That Sky need to make more originals because the various players are going for a direct to customer approach. This would deprive Sky of some important content. Since then, Sky has entered into an arrangement to make some content jointly with HBO, and of course more content is also available to them now that Comcast has taken over.

I can't think of any other comment I have made that you could have taken as meaning 'Sky will get blown out of the water' because frankly, I can't see that happening at all.

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I’d much prefer the rights for UCL back on sky. Such superior coverage over BT sport I found.

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The problem with streaming is it relies on a good broadband connection and as many people don't get that (me included,no fibre available as yet) it won't become the way to watch tv for all for quite some time. Also,I know many people who refuse to subscribe to pay tv on any platform and are more than happy with what freeview offer. The younger generation of course are the future and all providers must look to what they are doing to stay ahead of the game. As for me I'm a dinosaur who will stick with Sky or Virgin to the bitter end!

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This is a very testing time for BT

Should they lose the UEFA Club Competitions then come 2021 they would have lost potentially Champions League, Europa League along with losing Scottish Football and the FA Cup. Also they lost Serie A within the last 18 months.

I'm seeing some articles about BT possibly scaling back due to the upgrade of 5G and the pensions situation not to mention the recent purchase of EE along with managerial changes which are more favourable with cutting back on the sports rights

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If BT do loose the Champions league and Europa league then I for one will cancel as I mainly subscribe so I can watch those competitions. BT need to think very carefully about this because I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking this way.

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I think BT will retain the European games but that's just my opinion for what it's worth.

I tend not to believe everything I read in the press , should Sky actually bid and win it's bye bye BT Sport in my opinion.

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http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/u...reaming-rights

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Should they do then maybe they can look at their pricing structure as for a Sky viewer it is steep at the moment

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True. What's happening about Sky being able to sell BT sports direct to their customers? Does anyone have an update on this?

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It has been pushed back until 2020

Having spoken to Sky last week regarding this I was told Sky had bid for the Champions League & Europa League competitions and it was waiting on the result of that auction and as a result had pushed back the BT Sport launching via Sky

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All sorts of rumours swirling around currently but my hunch is for what its worth that there might be a new rights holder but don't bet your mortgage on it.

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That would make sense because if Champions league and Europa league games switched to Sky or indeed to another provider many would be cancelling their by subs.

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You seriously think one of Sky's call centre staff know whether Sky are bidding or not.:D

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Who knows?

He could have received that information via his superiors

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Workers in a call centre even higher ranking ones will be as much in the dark as we are , to be clear anything can happen history tells us that but with the exception of those involved in the process we are all just guessing.

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Apparently we have a couple of euro 2020 qualifiers on the red button today. But then i click the red button all i get is the generic "no red button games available".

Is it working for anyone?

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The euro qualifiers are on the red button on channel 503 - Sky Sports Football

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Working for me but that's with Sky not sure on Virgin.

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As posted above - there are 5 games on the red button on 503 on VM.

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The rights to broadcast Champions League games in Britain have been retained by BT Sport for another three seasons in a deal worth more than $1.5 billion, The Associated Press has learned.

https://apnews.com/aa4fbb26c7e04f9188c6687b140da31b

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No significant price increase which is good for us consumers.

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Well that remains to be seen as BT will still want to recover their outlay and its usually the consumer that meets it.

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BT have also secured the rights for the Europa Conference League

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Can't wait for that

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This will excite your mind..:D:D

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleagu...d=2629443.html

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Whatever that is?

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See the post one above yours Raider.;)

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Third rate tournament with Europa League failures parachuted in part way through.

Sounds exactly same as Europa League at a lower level - think I will give it a miss.

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That was my thought at first but never_the_less there might be some good games especially as the tournament progresses.

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apparently the league cup winners will qualify for it. so another death knell for the league cup as a valuable competition

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It will soon be a challenge to fail to quality for a UEFA competition.

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Even my team won't fail that challenge..:D:D

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Sky Sports to become exclusive home of the Masters

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...f-the-masters/

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No surprise there then..

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Well, the first of the Premier League matches start tonight on Amazon Prime. If the system does not crash, and all the matches over the season go without a hitch, this may encourage Amazon to go for one of the bigger packages in 2022. The big question of course is whether the ISPs can cope with the demand.

I guess all will be revealed soon enough.

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/12/how-...er-league.html

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There will be no hiding place in the next three days if it goes belly up for Amazon Prime.

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With impeccable timing (I wonder why) I got a Black Friday offer on Sunday for 3 months Amazon Prime for £11.99 which I took them up on, so I'm looking forward to a bit of football in UHD now in December.

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These companies know what sales button to press l can guarantee you that.

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I just couldn't turn down the Black Friday oomph bundle, saving some money over the next 12 months. On top of those savings,I also got a 12-month subscription to Amazon Prime for free.

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A good offer indeed.

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There have been positive first impressions from Amazon's Premiership coverage. I should imagine that the ability to switch off the commentators but still hear the sound of the stadium would have been very popular for some!

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/12/posi...r-amazons.html

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Wish they did that for all Martin Tyler's matches :)

I didn't have any issues with the coverage - although tonight has more matches.

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I thought the picture quality was poorish. I could not work out whether it was in hd or sd but I suspect sd?

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There was intermittent stuttering as well.

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He's the best in the business imo.

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Any idea on how to turn the commentary off which i've been told is possible? Is this just on the web or can the v6 do it too?

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Tried to watch Villa match on V6 tonight at 7.28 all I got was a blank screen. Worked last night. Good old PS3 with Amazon app on to the rescue (wired).

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There was some stuttering early on but thankfully it has settled down for now.

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very good PQ here in UHD HDR for Liverpool v Everton game

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The stuttering has got terrible in the last minute.:(

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No V6 access still. Looks like a case of first come first served.

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Click on the speech bubble to change audio/subtitles.

I haven't been able to manage that on the V6, just on the website, and on the app on my tablet. The V6 is about a minute behind the website.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/12/1.jpg

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l first noticed that Liverpool had scored by the flash up scoreline on SSN.

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The red card in last night's games was referenced on Twitter a full minute ahead of broadcast.

Now that may be adequate for us old fashioned types, sitting in our slippers smoking pipes might just be watching on our tellybox in the corner of the room waiting on the post once a day and messages from carrier pigeon. However, I think "yoofs" these days use iPads and what's app to exchange correspondence on a far more frequent basis.

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So there is an arbitrary limit on the number of streams?

PQ may be good on UHD matches, but the rest are not up to scratch and too many stutters, motion problems etc.

Not impressed, reminds me of watching BT matches streamed to a large TV through a friends laptop - can only watch for a few minutes as the above problems abound.

If this is the future, heaven help those who expect better - and to top it all you cannot record it (or at least I haven't found a way)

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Watched the Liverpool v Everton match last night and overall it was a well put together program but again the picture quality was not good. I`m on a 30 day free trial,watching through my smart tv app but I doubt I will take up a subsription once the 30 days are up as I only got it to watch the football.

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I think we can say goodbye to Box Nation soon - the company is in liquidation.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07486715

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The writing has been on the wall for some time Andrew from what l hear.

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Once Frank Warren signed his promotions to BT it was really a matter of time.

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The question is how much of the boxing will be on BT's main bouquet of sports channels and how much of it will be on their PPV Box Office.

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Not a channel I`ve ever watched,don`t even know what they offer but at a guess I`d say boxing?

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I agree with you both.

I've followed the company from time to time and seen the debt pile up. On top of Queensberry Promotions' BT deal, Bill Ives who was bankrolling the channel died in August 2017, so for the channel to last so long is an achievement.