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Pierre 08-01-2017 19:31
Re: US Election 2016
 
I'm pretty sure the Good old US of A has influenced, if not directly intervened in many a foreign election if it so suited them.

Mick 08-01-2017 19:52
Re: US Election 2016
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35879662)
I am in no doubt that Russia hacked the DNC and in fairness Mick the information that was released proves it
How does Statements forensically prove anything ?

In basic science of proving someone or something has done something, we don't rely on just what someone says. Where is the hard evidence ? The servers were not examined by the FBI and they never asked for access to them to check them.

And it is like McCafee says, Russian intelligence, if it was actually guilty, wouldn't use a year out of date, malware program and that they would not be so stupid enough to have an IP address that links back to the hackers in Russia. It's basic IT lesson 101, if you going to hack in to someone or something, don't leave an obvious trace that points back to you.

martyh 08-01-2017 19:52
Re: US Election 2016
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35879666)
But at the same time, surely to come to a conclusion that you were going to be so bold enough, to accuse another 'Super Power' Country, that they influenced the US Election, surely a thorough examination of the hacked DNC servers by that same Investigatory body, is essential? Not just say, 'oh well, Clinton lost the Election but we agree with the DNC, it's Russia's fault, we have absolutely no need to check out your servers, so you must be right.'
It is absolutely laughable, that this is being spun out they way it has been. :rolleyes:

The only person who is to blame for losing the US Election, is Hillary Clinton and then the DNC, for believing she could win it.

The DNC should have not stitched up, Bernie Sanders by rigging (or should we say, influencing, if the shoe fits, the DNC can be accused of influencing as well) the Primaries in Hillary's favor and giving her the questions before going in those TV debates with him.
Do you seriously think that the security services in America have accused Russia of messing with the election without evidence ,if you do think that then you are on a different planet to everyone else and don't forget there will be plenty of evidence that hasn't been released for security reasons.Also don't forget that Trump has now accepted in the face of the evidence shown to him that the Russians did mess with the election or at least try too because he has stated that it is the security services fault for allowing it to happen

Hugh 08-01-2017 19:53
Re: US Election 2016
 
The President-Elect's Chief of Staff disagrees with you, Mick, and states that Trump thinks the Russians are behind it...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...DB&via=FB_Page
Quote:
Reince Priebus, Trump’s incoming White House chief of staff, said the president-elect accepts the conclusion that Russia was behind the cyberattacks that targeted the DNC and Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta, but blamed the DNC for its alleged lack of cybersecurity.

“He’s not denying that entities in Russia were behind this particular hacking campaign,” Priebus said on “Fox News Sunday.” He added that the Russian government has the “primary” responsibility for the hacks.

Mick 08-01-2017 19:58
Re: US Election 2016
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35879669)
I'm pretty sure the Good old US of A has influenced, if not directly intervened in many a foreign election if it so suited them.
Well, let's have a look, you even have President's trying to influence foreign Elections or referendums, right under our noses.... and not that long ago either.....



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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35879678)
The President-Elect's Chief of Staff disagrees with you, Mick, and states that Trump thinks the Russians are behind it...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...DB&via=FB_Page
I couldn't give a crap if he does or doesn't, it does not change my view.

martyh 08-01-2017 20:02
Re: US Election 2016
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35879679)
Well, let's have a look, you even have President's trying to influence foreign Elections or referendums, right under our noses.... and not that long ago either.....



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I couldn't give a crap if he does or doesn't, it does not change my view.
Your just fecking unbelievable you are .

heero_yuy 08-01-2017 20:03
Re: US Election 2016
 
Funny how the play arrow covers his mouth. :D

Mick 08-01-2017 20:05
Re: US Election 2016
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35879684)
Funny how the play arrow covers his mouth. :D
:D Shame it cannot be there permanently.

Hugh 08-01-2017 20:17
Re: US Election 2016
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35879679)
Well, let's have a look, you even have President's trying to influence foreign Elections or referendums, right under our noses....
I couldn't give a crap if he does or doesn't, it does not change my view.
So you think Trump and his Chief of Staff are wrong in thinking that Russia did it....

Mick 08-01-2017 20:48
Re: US Election 2016
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35879691)
So you think Trump and his Chief of Staff are wrong in thinking that Russia did it....
Well, I will be honest, it is an interesting development. Call me old fashioned but I still believe in hard evidence though, lets see where this one goes....

RizzyKing 08-01-2017 21:30
Re: US Election 2016
 
Mick come on your going a bit beyond here no one has any doubt that Russia were playing fast and loose with hacking except you. Also don't hold mcaffee up as an authority he just jumps onto anything that gets him on a screen and I can't remember the last person that used his software for any length of time mainly because their pc\laptop got overwhelmed by everything his product didn't pick up. Russia needs a strong presence to limit it or putin will continue to push till he goes too far and creates a problem that can't be fixed. Right now we all have to hope trump will stepup and take on that role rather then being Putin's cooperative friend.

Arthurgray50@blu 08-01-2017 23:12
Re: US Election 2016
 
In my view, and Trump has accepted that Russia has a say in the election. Then President Obama. Must say STOP the ***** swearing in ceremony. Until it proved beyonf Doubt that the Russia DID help Trump win.

IF it proves AFTER the date, it could serious problems in America

Surely IF the FBI found these so called emails by Clinton. Which has caused the major problem. And the director of The FBI was a republican. Then it makes this election more sicker than it was.

Damien 10-01-2017 23:26
Re: US Election 2016
 
Looks like anti-vaccinations was something Trump said during the campaign that he did mean: http://arstechnica.co.uk/science/201...accine-safety/

Quote:
Today, President-elect Donald Trump met with a backer of the false idea that vaccines may be behind the rise in autism diagnoses. The result seems to be a worst-case scenario: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has accepted a position within the Trump administration, where he will chair a group evaluating vaccine safety and scientific integrity.


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and Russia might have something on Trump:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/po...sia/index.html

Quote:
Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.

TheDaddy 11-01-2017 03:58
Re: US Election 2016
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35880014)
Looks like anti-vaccinations was something Trump said during the campaign that he did mean: http://arstechnica.co.uk/science/201...accine-safety/



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and Russia might have something on Trump:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/po...sia/index.html
Perhaps they've got his tax return or they know he isn't as rich as he keeps telling us he is

Mick 11-01-2017 06:28
Re: US Election 2016
 
Google "4chan Fake news Trump", they have apparently spun a fake story and parts of the dishonest media being so desperate to run with any Trump scandal, ran with it. Trump has Tweeted in last hour, all in caps :"FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCHHUNT!"

After reading the following : http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christi...e-cia-n2269811 , Fake news it is.


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