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denphone 10-08-2019 10:26
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Jose Mourinho to join Sky Sports.

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...ins-sky-sports

1andrew1 10-08-2019 10:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005599)
Not his first TV role :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3WKKLvtEkQ

Raider999 10-08-2019 17:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005599)
Glad I never have time to listen to the 'experts' talk about the game.

Mad Max 10-08-2019 18:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005599)
His head is bigger than the moon!

denphone 10-08-2019 18:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36005639)
His head is bigger than the moon!
l would rather hear his opinion then the opinion of many ex players who have not got a clue what they are talking about.;)

ozsat 16-08-2019 16:15
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Currently - Elevensport is only carrying OnDemand stuff.
There is no live stream and no schedule showing either.

jfman 16-08-2019 17:51
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Someone phone a priest for the last rites.

Chad 16-08-2019 17:58
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49364657

La Liga agree short term deal with ITV

OLD BOY 06-09-2019 13:22
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Better news for La Liga fans.

https://advanced-television.com/2019...deal-imminent/

La Liga President: “UK TV deal imminent”


Javier Tebas, the president of La Liga, has claimed a new TV rights deal for the UK and Ireland will be in place before the season’s fourth weekend of fixtures (September 13th).

Having failed to agree a long-term media rights deal before the start of the 2019/20 season, the Spanish top-flight football league signed a short-term agreement with ITV, which saw the FTA broadcaster cover one match for the first three rounds of fixtures up to the current international break.

Speaking to SportsPro, Tebas said a new rights deal will be signed before the next round of fixtures, after the international break.

“Before the fourth matchday begins there will be news and will announce where you can watch Spanish football in the UK and Ireland. We’re working on this now,” he said.

Tebas gave no hints as to who the broadcaster could be, but added: “It will have better access to Spanish football in the UK and Ireland compared to the beginning of last season.”

denphone 06-09-2019 13:27
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Lets hope the La Liga President has taken some lessons on board and learnt from before.

Raider999 06-09-2019 13:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009071)
Better news for La Liga fans.

https://advanced-television.com/2019...deal-imminent/

La Liga President: “UK TV deal imminent”


Javier Tebas, the president of La Liga, has claimed a new TV rights deal for the UK and Ireland will be in place before the season’s fourth weekend of fixtures (September 13th).

Having failed to agree a long-term media rights deal before the start of the 2019/20 season, the Spanish top-flight football league signed a short-term agreement with ITV, which saw the FTA broadcaster cover one match for the first three rounds of fixtures up to the current international break.

Speaking to SportsPro, Tebas said a new rights deal will be signed before the next round of fixtures, after the international break.

“Before the fourth matchday begins there will be news and will announce where you can watch Spanish football in the UK and Ireland. We’re working on this now,” he said.

Tebas gave no hints as to who the broadcaster could be, but added: “It will have better access to Spanish football in the UK and Ireland compared to the beginning of last season.”
The last para is the key - of course it wouldn't be difficult to achieve.

vincerooney 07-09-2019 22:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36009085)
The last para is the key - of course it wouldn't be difficult to achieve.
have a horrible feeling it'll follow italian football onto premier sports. have no idea how they have the money to get these since surely their subscriptions are on the low end? Yet BT and Sky can't be arsed by the sound of it but put their bills up again and again...weird

cheekyangus 07-09-2019 23:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36009315)
have a horrible feeling it'll follow italian football onto premier sports. have no idea how they have the money to get these since surely their subscriptions are on the low end? Yet BT and Sky can't be arsed by the sound of it but put their bills up again and again...weird
Premier Sports put some of them on FreeSports last time I think. They certainly have with the Italian matches.

telegramsam 08-09-2019 07:40
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No matter who gets them it's us poor saps who'll pay for it one way or another

heero_yuy 08-09-2019 07:51
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The providers know that addicts will continue to pay the price no matter how high.

telegramsam 08-09-2019 08:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36009324)
The providers know that addicts will continue to pay the price no matter how high.
Exactly and even when you don't sub they get you by charging you more for something else you sub to.

denphone 10-09-2019 11:34
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La Liga has agreed a three-year deal with broadcaster Premier Sports.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevemc.../#372be3a4310f

Quote:
The organization has agreed a three-year deal with broadcaster Premier Sports that will see every single game shown on Premier Sports, with selected matches and highlights available Free-to-Air (FTA) on Freesports.

The agreement comes into effect this weekend and the new partners promise to launch a 24-hour channel for the competition by January 2020. Alongside live matches, LaLiga TV will show magazine and highlights programs for the British market.
Lessons obviously have not been learnt it seems...

Media Boy UK 10-09-2019 11:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009605)
La Liga has agreed a three-year deal with broadcaster Premier Sports.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevemc.../#372be3a4310f



Lessons obviously have not been learnt it seems...
I like it. I like it.

denphone 10-09-2019 11:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009608)
I like it. I like it.
Many won't though as its another subscription for those who choose it on top of their Sky Sports and BT Sports subscriptions.

Media Boy UK 10-09-2019 11:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009609)
Many won't though as its another subscription for those who choose it on top of their Sky Sports and BT Sports subscriptions.
I got Premier Sports in the few years back for some Scotland - football - games Premier has rights too (dont get me started on this past weekend) but I was happy when Premier got the rights to Cups football here in Scotland.

denphone 10-09-2019 11:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009611)
I got Premier Sports in the few years back for some Scotland - football - games Premier has rights too (dont get me started on this past weekend) but I was happy when Premier got the rights to Cups football here in Scotland.
Well each individual has to make up their own mind as to whether they want to subscribe to it but you can bet your bottom dollar that apart from loyal diehards there won't be many takers.

Also more information here.

Quote:
It has also revealed the launch of LaLigaTV; a dedicated 24/7 channel in the UK and Ireland for LaLiga coverage.

LaLigaTV will show all live games and new weekly shows LaLiga World, VIVA LaLiga and The LaLiga Show.

It will be available via Premier Sports as part of the broadcaster’s channel bundle on Sky TV, or through the Premier Player OTT streaming service, for £11.99 per month or £99 per year.

It will also be possible to add LaLigaTV as a standalone service via Premier Sports for £5.99 a month or £49 a year.
Quote:
LaLigaTV will officially launch on Sky TV and the Premier Player over “the coming weeks.”

cheekyangus 10-09-2019 12:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009609)
Many won't though as its another subscription for those who choose it on top of their Sky Sports and BT Sports subscriptions.
FreeSports is part of Premier Sports though, and they have already said on Twitter they will be showing La Liga matches.

Quote:
Mallorca v Athletic Bilbao will be live on FreeSports this Friday night at 7:55PM
Source: https://twitter.com/FreeSports_TV/st...70793709789184

denphone 10-09-2019 12:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36009620)
FreeSports is part of Premier Sports though, and they have already said on Twitter they will be showing La Liga matches.


Source: https://twitter.com/FreeSports_TV/st...70793709789184
Yes l did know there is one match live on FreeSports each week but for many the disappointment is the failure of somebody like ITV4 not to snap it up where it is available to a much greater audience for free.

Richc1977 10-09-2019 12:22
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What are the chance of Premier Sports being added to VM full House /XL pack now?

I know they have been wanted to for years and now maybe they have enough content to tempt VM

cheekyangus 10-09-2019 12:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 36009623)
What are the chance of Premier Sports being added to VM full House /XL pack now?

I know they have been wanted to for years and now maybe they have enough content to tempt VM
Or add it to the Sport Lite Personal Picks pack...which is, appropriately, rather Lite on content, having only 4 channels, I'm not counting HD duplications. £7 for 4 channels! Not exactly attractive.

denphone 10-09-2019 12:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 36009623)
What are the chance of Premier Sports being added to VM full House /XL pack now?

I know they have been wanted to for years and now maybe they have enough content to tempt VM
Not much l would say..

Media Boy UK 10-09-2019 12:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009626)
Not much l would say..
Well Sky are set to copy Virgin Media soon https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...of-tv-channels

So Virgin may think out the park and add Premier Sports to the XL Pack anyway unless Virgin sign an new deal with Premier Sports we will not get that new LaLigaTV channel.

denphone 10-09-2019 12:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009628)
Well Sky are set to copy Virgin Media soon https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...of-tv-channels

So Virgin may think out the park and add Premier Sports to the XL Pack anyway unless Virgin sign an new deal with Premier Sports we will not get that new LaLigaTV channel.
But nowhere on that media release does it say it is coming to Virgin MB.

Media Boy UK 10-09-2019 12:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009630)
But nowhere on that media release does it say it is coming to Virgin MB.
BT Sport is on Virgin Media's XL Pack right now.

BT Sport has also signed an wholesale deal with Sky.

Anyway has anyone got any idea on who own Premier Media Broadcasting Ltd.?

denphone 10-09-2019 13:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009631)
BT Sport is on Virgin Media's XL Pack right now.

BT Sport has also signed an wholesale deal with Sky.

Anyway has anyone got any idea on who own Premier Media Broadcasting Ltd.?
l am talking about Now TV MD.

Raider999 10-09-2019 17:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009631)
BT Sport is on Virgin Media's XL Pack right now.

BT Sport has also signed an wholesale deal with Sky.

Anyway has anyone got any idea on who own Premier Media Broadcasting Ltd.?
Premier Sports appeared after the failure of Setanta. They are/were both ROI and both had their head offices at the same address (in Luxembourg?)

So my guess is the owners are the same as people who owned Setanta.

OLD BOY 10-09-2019 17:52
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La Liga will be available on Sky, but no mention yet of Virgin Media. However, I would be very surprised indeed if Virgin didn't get it.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...na-real-madrid


The soon-to-be-launched LaLigaTV will be available as part of the Sky TV bundle and Premier Player OTT service for £11.99 per month (or £99 per year), while supporters will be able to add Premier Sports to their TV for £5.99 per month/£49 per year should they already have Sky TV.

denphone 10-09-2019 17:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009649)
La Liga will be available on Sky, but no mention yet of Virgin Media. However, I would be very surprised indeed if Virgin didn't get it.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...na-real-madrid


The soon-to-be-launched LaLigaTV will be available as part of the Sky TV bundle and Premier Player OTT service for £11.99 per month (or £99 per year), while supporters will be able to add Premier Sports to their TV for £5.99 per month/£49 per year should they already have Sky TV.
l posted it earlier and it made no mention of La Liga on Virgin.

ncfc1902 10-09-2019 18:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009651)
l posted it earlier and it made no mention of La Liga on Virgin.
Apart from the bit where it does

"LaLigaTV will be made available by Premier Sports as part of its channel bundle on Sky TV and the Premier Player OTT streaming service for just £11.99 per month or £99 per year (with pricing and launch date on Virgin TV to be confirmed)"

https://www.premiersports.com/footba...rtnership.html

muppetman11 10-09-2019 18:13
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Won't be subscribing to this and I don't see the numbers being great.

denphone 10-09-2019 18:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ncfc1902 (Post 36009653)
Apart from the bit where it does

"LaLigaTV will be made available by Premier Sports as part of its channel bundle on Sky TV and the Premier Player OTT streaming service for just £11.99 per month or £99 per year (with pricing and launch date on Virgin TV to be confirmed)"

https://www.premiersports.com/footba...rtnership.html
l never had that press release but thanks for that info.

OLD BOY 10-09-2019 18:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009651)
l posted it earlier and it made no mention of La Liga on Virgin.
So you did - sorry Den, I missed that.

---------- Post added at 18:31 ---------- Previous post was at 18:29 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ncfc1902 (Post 36009653)
Apart from the bit where it does

"LaLigaTV will be made available by Premier Sports as part of its channel bundle on Sky TV and the Premier Player OTT streaming service for just £11.99 per month or £99 per year (with pricing and launch date on Virgin TV to be confirmed)"

https://www.premiersports.com/footba...rtnership.html
To be fair, Den was talking about the lack of information on any Virgin launch.

I read 'to be confirmed' as meaning no idea as yet.

jfman 10-09-2019 18:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009628)
Well Sky are set to copy Virgin Media soon https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...of-tv-channels

So Virgin may think out the park and add Premier Sports to the XL Pack anyway unless Virgin sign an new deal with Premier Sports we will not get that new LaLigaTV channel.
Importantly that's not what the Sky release says. It doesn't say that BT will be included in existing packs as standard, at any level of subscription.

vincerooney 11-09-2019 17:28
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Ugh why can't premier sports just bugger off. We dont want to pay even more money for football.

jfman 11-09-2019 19:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36009757)
Ugh why can't premier sports just bugger off. We dont want to pay even more money for football.
Wait till you hear the glorious future Old Boy has in store.

Richc1977 13-09-2019 10:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36009757)
Ugh why can't premier sports just bugger off. We dont want to pay even more money for football.
I think you should rephrase to "we don't want to pay more money for ALL the football"

I'm happy to pay for the football I want to see but there is only so much I can watch. I'm lucky if I get time for more than 2 matches of anything a weekend.

If someone just wanted to see La Liga surely £5.99 a month is much better than years past where they would have had to shell out for Sky Sports.

If you want all the football then yes you pay more but really who wants to or has time for all the football?

OLD BOY 13-09-2019 13:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009773)
Wait till you hear the glorious future Old Boy has in store.
I'm not creating that future, jfman. :rolleyes:

jfman 13-09-2019 15:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 36009916)
I think you should rephrase to "we don't want to pay more money for ALL the football"

I'm happy to pay for the football I want to see but there is only so much I can watch. I'm lucky if I get time for more than 2 matches of anything a weekend.

If someone just wanted to see La Liga surely £5.99 a month is much better than years past where they would have had to shell out for Sky Sports.

If you want all the football then yes you pay more but really who wants to or has time for all the football?
But this is the thing - the set of customers paying for a new service would almost entirely be a subset of Sky Sports customers. Making them - the many - worse off.

OLD BOY 13-09-2019 16:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009931)
But this is the thing - the set of customers paying for a new service would almost entirely be a subset of Sky Sports customers. Making them - the many - worse off.
Not necessarily. Stand-alone services will be cheaper than taking Sky Sports, which covers a variety of sport. The question is, how many people subscribe to Sky Sport to watch just one or two specific sports? Most, I would have thought.

jfman 13-09-2019 16:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009938)
Not necessarily. Stand-alone services will be cheaper than taking Sky Sports, which covers a variety of sport. The question is, how many people subscribe to Sky Sport to watch just one or two specific sports? Most, I would have thought.
But you're conflating two things here. I agree that most watch one or two sports, but La Liga isn't a sport, it's a selection of games within a sport.

You're also assuming that when the rights get spun out and averaged across a much smaller customer base that the cost to the end user reduces . This isn't necessarily the case.

Raider999 13-09-2019 18:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009938)
Not necessarily. Stand-alone services will be cheaper than taking Sky Sports, which covers a variety of sport. The question is, how many people subscribe to Sky Sport to watch just one or two specific sports? Most, I would have thought.
Really, I think you can count on the fingers of one hand the number of people who subscribe to Premier Sports that don't also subscribe to Sky and/or BT

carravetta 16-09-2019 08:35
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Looking at the Eleven Sports situation I think it would be best if they launched a channel on Sky/Virgin and offered some niche football. For example

Brazilian League
Russian League
Argentinian League
Belgium League

At least that way you gradually build a portfolio like Premier Sports did 10 years ago. I doubt the cost for the above leagues would cost that much and they could probably survive on the advertising costs.

denphone 16-09-2019 08:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 36010201)
Looking at the Eleven Sports situation I think it would be best if they launched a channel on Sky/Virgin and offered some niche football. For example

Brazilian League
Russian League
Argentinian League
Belgium League

At least that way you gradually build a portfolio like Premier Sports did 10 years ago. I doubt the cost for the above leagues would cost that much and they could probably survive on the advertising costs.
l don't see much hope of that happening personally.

muppetman11 16-09-2019 09:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 36010201)
Looking at the Eleven Sports situation I think it would be best if they launched a channel on Sky/Virgin and offered some niche football. For example

Brazilian League
Russian League
Argentinian League
Belgium League

At least that way you gradually build a portfolio like Premier Sports did 10 years ago. I doubt the cost for the above leagues would cost that much and they could probably survive on the advertising costs.
How many actually want to watch those leagues , very few I'd say.

carravetta 16-09-2019 09:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36010205)
How many actually want to watch those leagues , very few I'd say.
The demand for them would not be great but if I remember rightly Premier Sports launched with some of those leagues plus the National League and Irish League.

It would be better than the approach they took last season, at least that way you can put your toe in the water and see where it takes you from there

vincerooney 16-09-2019 10:26
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Really odd that eleven sports website. they have minute highlights of french and german games by the look of it. They still brag in the title of the website about la liga but no mention of it. They also have a help page on how to subscribe.... odd

denphone 16-09-2019 10:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36010207)
Really odd that eleven sports website. they have minute highlights of french and german games by the look of it. They still brag in the title of the website about la liga but no mention of it. They also have a help page on how to subscribe.... odd
One word..... "Amateurs"...

OLD BOY 19-09-2019 15:15
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An interesting article here on OTT sports coverage. Note the biggest threat to existing pay tv operators in terms of sport is Amazon, as we thought.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/features/c...tv-opportunity

...The biggest challenges they are likely to face are from Amazon, should it decide to prioritise tier-one sports rights in key markets, or major sports broadcasters such as ESPN reserving their key rights for their direct-to-consumer service...

denphone 19-09-2019 15:21
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And that article changes nothing but alas leopards find it difficult to change their spots.

OLD BOY 19-09-2019 17:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36010787)
And that article changes nothing but alas leopards find it difficult to change their spots.
It certainly doesn't change anything, Den. Amazon remains the most tipped streamer to bid for the next Premiership rights. :D:D

denphone 19-09-2019 17:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36010796)
It certainly doesn't change anything, Den. Amazon remains the most tipped streamer to bid for the next Premiership rights. :D:D
Like they were for the last three for alas turkeys don't vote for Christmas as they say.:D

OLD BOY 19-09-2019 17:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36010799)
Like they were for the last three for alas turkeys don't vote for Christmas as they say.:D
Things change, Den. You are just an old stick-in-the-mud! :wavey:

denphone 19-09-2019 17:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36010802)
Things change, Den. You are just an old stick-in-the-mud! :wavey:
Older and more experienced as you point out in every one of your posts.;):D

denphone 10-10-2019 06:03
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ITV could bring Champions League back to terrestrial TV.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/s...-tv-605gjvjvw#

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ue-rights.html

Quote:
Uefa sent the tender for the 2021-24 rights to interested broadcasters in the UK this week, and it is understood both ITV and Sky are poised to mount a serious challenge to BT Sport which holds the exclusive rights at the moment.
Quote:
The Times also reports the tender document includes rights for the Europa League, and the new third-tier tournament, the Europa Conference League. The winner of next season's Carabao Cup will be England's representative in the new competition.

ozsat 10-10-2019 08:29
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Let's hope not - ITV should not be allowed live sport - especially football.

Anybody but ITV
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013444)
ITV could bring Champions League back to terrestrial TV.

denphone 10-10-2019 08:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013454)
Let's hope not - ITV should not be allowed live sport - especially football.

Anybody but ITV
UEFA are worried because the last rights contract awarded was strictly Pay TV it is limiting the audience that can watch it so my own hunch here is the next contract awarded will be a mixture of Terrestrial TV and Pay TV.

---------- Post added at 08:36 ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013454)
Let's hope not - ITV should not be allowed live sport - especially football.

Anybody but ITV
Any reasons for your stance?.

telegramsam 10-10-2019 09:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013454)
Let's hope not - ITV should not be allowed live sport - especially football.

Anybody but ITV
Why not? They do sport well in my opinion.

cheekyangus 10-10-2019 09:39
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I didn't think any major football was Pay Per View (i.e. pay for an individual match at a time) these days. I thought they gave up on that, for football, about 8-10 years ago.

I'm assuming you mean premium pay subscription services like Sky Sports?

denphone 10-10-2019 09:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36013463)
I didn't think any major football was Pay Per View (i.e. pay for an individual match at a time) these days. I thought they gave up on that, for football, about 8-10 years ago.

I'm assuming you mean premium pay subscription services like Sky Sports?
Yes sorry l meant Pay TV.

alwaysabear 10-10-2019 16:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013455)
UEFA are worried because the last rights contract awarded was strictly Pay TV it is limiting the audience that can watch it so my own hunch here is the next contract awarded will be a mixture of Terrestrial TV and Pay TV.[COLOR="Silver"]

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Would be great if Terrestrial TV gets a look in, it will also have an impact on how much pay TV can charge.

Raider999 10-10-2019 17:05
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I think there is room for 1 Champions League and 1 Europa League match per round being on terrestrial TV with the rest on a Pay TV platform.

This would mean reverting to the previous arrangement.

The problem is will the terrestrial TV be prepared to pay a substantial fee for the rights?

If not will the pay TV broadcaster be expected to cover this cost?

ozsat 10-10-2019 18:23
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Interupt a live match with adverts and miss a goal - that is bad.

Do another live match and drop in adverts and miss another goal - they should never be allowed it again.

Do it yet again - well ....

I beleive each time they claimed it was due to un-manned playouts. That should only ever happen once.

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36013462)
Why not? They do sport well in my opinion.

telegramsam 10-10-2019 18:46
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013523)
Interupt a live match with adverts and miss a goal - that is bad.

Do another live match and drop in adverts and miss another goal - they should never be allowed it again.

Do it yet again - well ....

I beleive each time they claimed it was due to un-manned playouts. That should only ever happen once.
I saw that happen just once,an England international I believe. Bet Sky and BT have had plenty of hiccups over the years so no broadcaster is flawless.

ozsat 11-10-2019 09:35
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Hicups happen - the two I saw live was:

England's goal in the 2010 World Cup Finals was missed on ITVHD due to them going to an ad-break four minutes into a match.

FA Cup Replay which went into extra time and ITV Network didn't know what to do so were still on an ad-break when the only goal was scored.

They switched to ITN News Studios mid-may through Extra Time in a Champions League semi-final.

There have been complaints about the number of ad-breaks during their coverage of the Tour de France.

If an event is currently active - there should be no ad breaks.

ITV's policy is - if there are ads to show - show them now.


Oh - and ITV is still in the dark ages when it comes to 5.1 audio and UHD video.

Mad Max 11-10-2019 13:19
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013558)
Hicups happen - the two I saw live was:

England's goal in the 2010 World Cup Finals was missed on ITVHD due to them going to an ad-break four minutes into a match.

FA Cup Replay which went into extra time and ITV Network didn't know what to do so were still on an ad-break when the only goal was scored.

They switched to ITN News Studios mid-may through Extra Time in a Champions League semi-final.

There have been complaints about the number of ad-breaks during their coverage of the Tour de France.

If an event is currently active - there should be no ad breaks.

ITV's policy is - if there are ads to show - show them now.


Oh - and ITV is still in the dark ages when it comes to 5.1 audio and UHD video.

Bang on, the last time I watched a game that they were showing, the PQ was awful!

Raider999 11-10-2019 16:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013558)
Hicups happen - the two I saw live was:

England's goal in the 2010 World Cup Finals was missed on ITVHD due to them going to an ad-break four minutes into a match.

FA Cup Replay which went into extra time and ITV Network didn't know what to do so were still on an ad-break when the only goal was scored.

They switched to ITN News Studios mid-may through Extra Time in a Champions League semi-final.

There have been complaints about the number of ad-breaks during their coverage of the Tour de France.

If an event is currently active - there should be no ad breaks.

ITV's policy is - if there are ads to show - show them now.


Oh - and ITV is still in the dark ages when it comes to 5.1 audio and UHD video.
Totally agree, but whoever is selling the rights have the right to set that as a condition. If any broadcaster doesn't like it then don't bid.

I suspect this happened with England internationals as you never get ads in play.

johnathome 12-10-2019 00:53
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013455)

Any reasons for your stance?.
Andy Blooming Townsend, don't need another reason :-)

denphone 12-10-2019 05:34
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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 36013620)
Andy Blooming Townsend, don't need another reason :-)
My answer to that John in our household is to turn the mute button on as l certainly know what you mean when you talk about irritating football pundits as there are quite a few on Pay TV.

Raider999 13-10-2019 10:53
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013624)
My answer to that John in our household is to turn the mute button on as l certainly know what you mean when you talk about irritating football pundits as there are quite a few on Pay TV.
Not limited to football pundits or Pay TV platforms - some of the rugby union pundits are equally poor on Sky/BT/ITV

denphone 13-10-2019 11:01
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36013702)
Not limited to football pundits or Pay TV platforms - some of the rugby union pundits are equally poor on Sky/BT/ITV
Most definitely as l find it hard to understand that Sky in their great wisdom decided to not to renew David Gower , Bumble and Ian Botham's contract when they are three of the best cricket pundits around.

telegramsam 13-10-2019 11:15
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013706)
Most definitely as l find it hard to understand that Sky in their great wisdom decided to not to renew David Gower , Bumble and Ian Botham's contract when they are three of the best cricket pundits around.
When the pundits start giving their half time chat isn't that the time to go to the toilet,make a cuppa or nip to the shop? I do!

denphone 13-10-2019 11:26
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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36013710)
When the pundits start giving their half time chat isn't that the time to go to the toilet,make a cuppa or nip to the shop? I do!
It all depends on who the pundit is as adverts allow one to go to the toilet or make a cuppa l always find as certain pundits are very listenable during the lunch and tea breaks.

Raider999 13-10-2019 11:38
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013706)
Most definitely as l find it hard to understand that Sky in their great wisdom decided to not to renew David Gower , Bumble and Ian Botham's contract when they are three of the best cricket pundits around.
In the case of Bumble, I totally agree - although he retired a long time ago his approach adds some fun which is desperately needed.

However in the case of Botham/Gower they add little to the commentary and are out-dated. Gower in particular seems very bitter that his time has gone - hopefully they will be replaced with ex-players who haven't retired 20 years ago.

telegramsam 13-10-2019 11:41
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013714)
It all depends on who the pundit is as adverts allow one to go to the toilet or make a cuppa l always find as certain pundits are very listenable during the lunch and tea breaks.
To be honest I rarely hear the pundits as often by the time I"m back from doing all I have to do the match is ready to start again. I do hear the odd bits and some are ok,some not. I don't like Nevile on Sky,do like Savage on BT.

denphone 13-10-2019 11:47
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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36013719)
To be honest I rarely hear the pundits as often by the time I"m back from doing all I have to do the match is ready to start again. I do hear the odd bits and some are ok,some not. I don't like Nevile on Sky,do like Savage on BT.
Gary Neville like a few other pundits talks some good sense when they do not allow their bias to get the better of them.

As for Savage l can't say he is one that rocks my boat.

Raider999 13-10-2019 12:05
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013721)
Gary Neville like a few other pundits talks some good sense when they do not allow their bias to get the better of them.

As for Savage l can't say he is one that rocks my boat.
It shows how people's views differ - I find Neville bland at the best of times, although he has good technical input.

However when Man Utd are playing he cannot hide his obvious bias

telegramsam 13-10-2019 12:48
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Another thing which is annoying me is the number of females footballers creeping into the programs. Now I like women but not as football pundits. I don't question their knowledge of the game but if I wanted a females comment on the match I'd ask our lass!

OLD BOY 13-10-2019 12:54
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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36013733)
Another thing which is annoying me is the number of females footballers creeping into the programs. Now I like women but not as football pundits. I don't question their knowledge of the game but if I wanted a females comment on the match I'd ask our lass!
I'm not sure whether you should be expressing views like that in this day and age. :D

denphone 13-10-2019 13:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36013733)
Another thing which is annoying me is the number of females footballers creeping into the programs. Now I like women but not as football pundits. I don't question their knowledge of the game but if I wanted a females comment on the match I'd ask our lass!
l am not a sexist person myself as l believe in equal equality but l can't say l am impressed with too many of the female pundits personally.

Obviously more women are being employed in the sporting media because of a considerable gender imbalance but l have always believed in people being employed on merit rather then on gender.

telegramsam 13-10-2019 14:00
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013739)
l am not a sexist person myself as l believe in equal equality but l can't say l am impressed with too many of the female pundits personally.

Obviously more women are being employed in the sporting media because of a considerable gender imbalance but l have always believed in people being employed on merit rather then on gender.
After about being employed in merit rather than gender. I guess in Sky,BY and other broadcasters they want to attract as many viewers as possible,including women,so if having female footballers on helps with that they're going to do it. Mind you it's when they concentrate that really grates on me!

figgyburn 14-10-2019 09:28
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Eye candy.Mute button for all/most "pundits".Even when the game is on i stick on headphones to listen to music.Don't need the commentators telling me that Andy Robertson has passed to Mo Salah.I have eyes.Wish we had the option of just getting the live feed with no commentating.

Mad Max 14-10-2019 20:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36013733)
Another thing which is annoying me is the number of females footballers creeping into the programs. Now I like women but not as football pundits. I don't question their knowledge of the game but if I wanted a females comment on the match I'd ask our lass!
I'm with you on that, let them commentate on womens football, politcal correctness gone mad if you ask me.

Hugh 15-10-2019 15:14
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36013916)
I'm with you on that, let them commentate on womens football, politcal correctness gone mad if you ask me.
What next? They'll have Brits commentating on American Football, men commentating on women's tennis, and common people commentating on polo!

What's the world coming to!!!

Mad Max 15-10-2019 15:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36013982)
What next? They'll have Brits commentating on American Football, men commentating on women's tennis, and common people commentating on polo!

What's the world coming to!!!

I knw, terrible eh! :shocked:

OLD BOY 15-10-2019 18:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36013982)
What next? They'll have Brits commentating on American Football, men commentating on women's tennis, and common people commentating on polo!

What's the world coming to!!!
All in the name of diversity. It's time we ditched all this left-wing touchy-feely political correctness, which I think drives most people up the wall.

Hugh 15-10-2019 18:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36013916)
I'm with you on that, let them commentate on womens football, politcal correctness gone mad if you ask me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36013982)
What next? They'll have Brits commentating on American Football, men commentating on women's tennis, and common people commentating on polo!

What's the world coming to!!!
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36013999)
All in the name of diversity. It's time we ditched all this left-wing touchy-feely political correctness, which I think drives most people up the wall.
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denphone 15-10-2019 18:47
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36013999)
All in the name of diversity. It's time we ditched all this left-wing touchy-feely political correctness, which I think drives most people up the wall.
Trust you to bring politics into it....

OLD BOY 15-10-2019 18:57
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36014002)
Trust you to bring politics into it....
Well, we could do with a lot less of it because it is very invasive and corrupts our way of life instead of enhancing it.

This one little example about football commentators says it all, really.

Raider999 18-10-2019 15:31
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36013999)
All in the name of diversity. It's time we ditched all this left-wing touchy-feely political correctness, which I think drives most people up the wall.


Unusually, I totally agree with you.

There is something wrong with a woman's voice commentating on a football match.

They often have little to offer in the way of insight, just inane comments.

Is there some diversification rule that says companies have to have a percentage of women commentators? (Similar to women on company boards)

It is so sexist to have quotas - everything should be decided on ability irrespective of sex, colour and sexual orientation!

denphone 18-10-2019 15:42
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36014314)
Unusually, I totally agree with you.

There is something wrong with a woman's voice commentating on a football match.

They often have little to offer in the way of insight, just inane comments.

Is there some diversification rule that says companies have to have a percentage of women commentators? (Similar to women on company boards)

It is so sexist to have quotas - everything should be decided on ability irrespective of sex, colour and sexual orientation!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/la...2016/diversity

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/asse...018-report.PDF

OLD BOY 18-10-2019 19:29
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36014314)
Unusually, I totally agree with you.

There is something wrong with a woman's voice commentating on a football match.

They often have little to offer in the way of insight, just inane comments.

Is there some diversification rule that says companies have to have a percentage of women commentators? (Similar to women on company boards)

It is so sexist to have quotas - everything should be decided on ability irrespective of sex, colour and sexual orientation!
All appointments to jobs should be made on the basis of knowledge, skills, ability and experience. Nothing else should come into it, frankly, except perhaps attitude.

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Amazon's Boxing Day football schedule has been revealed.

https://advanced-television.com/2019...ball-schedule/

Raider999 19-10-2019 17:17
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36014353)
All appointments to jobs should be made on the basis of knowledge, skills, ability and experience. Nothing else should come into it, frankly, except perhaps attitude.

---------- Post added at 19:29 ---------- Previous post was at 18:58 ----------

Amazon's Boxing Day football schedule has been revealed.

https://advanced-television.com/2019...ball-schedule/
Yes I saw the kick-off times for Amazons Xmas streaming.

Hoping to get a free month offer to try the wonderful world of streaming - will I be able to do this through the V6 or will I need to use a computer/tablet?

Mad Max 19-10-2019 19:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36014314)
Unusually, I totally agree with you.

There is something wrong with a woman's voice commentating on a football match.

They often have little to offer in the way of insight, just inane comments.

Is there some diversification rule that says companies have to have a percentage of women commentators? (Similar to women on company boards)

It is so sexist to have quotas - everything should be decided on ability irrespective of sex, colour and sexual orientation!

Spot on mate...

OLD BOY 19-10-2019 20:36
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36014410)
Yes I saw the kick-off times for Amazons Xmas streaming.

Hoping to get a free month offer to try the wonderful world of streaming - will I be able to do this through the V6 or will I need to use a computer/tablet?
The V6 already supports Amazon Prime.

denphone 19-10-2019 20:54
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36014427)
The V6 already supports Amazon Prime.
He is talking about whether he can get a free month offer through his V6 or does he have to do it online.


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