Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

OMG!

Edit:

Glad they found it. Look forward to hearing what they have to say.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

If they have given a Crime number is it possible to independently ask for a Crime Number from your Local Constabulary concerning the same possible offense?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Can I just clarify? - does "happy to have a bash at it" mean you will take each numbered question and either answer it with attributions/references or indicate that you cannot do so?

I am happy to post the list on that basis in order to promote debate specifically on Phorm, Webwise and Adverts. The list will contain no other side issues, will not be narky, will be gentlemanly, and will not be aggressive and is not foisted on anyone - that's why I am making sure first, that it will be dealt with in the spirit in which it will be offered. It will contain factual unanswered questions about Phorm, Webwise, and Adverts posed to you on this forum. I will NOT include snide remarks or any form of baiting or off-topic issues.

But I do need the specific assurance I am asking for before making the effort to finally compile it.If I get that unequivocal assurance, then my next post will be that list. May be a day or two though.
Otherwise I will just leave things where they stand now.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

As I said, happy to have a bash. Can't guarantee a prompt response, depends on the length of the tome.
I'm no tech wizard, so don't expect too much.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I wouldn't get too excited based on the call I just had with the DS in charge of the case.

Watch this space.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I see hammy has added his comments

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

:confused:
Maybe its my eyesight (or the blocks in my hosts file, or Adblock Plus or blocking 3rd party cookies) but I don't see anything on that page about Ertugrul's sister, that I am aware of. All I see is the headline "Advertisers will see you read this" By John Gapper, a picture of a man at a desk, and one line of text below that.

Is John Gapper Ertugrul's sister?

What should I be seeing?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I didn't see it at first either.

Do a page search for 'sister'. It's in a paragraph towards the bottom.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

FT have a limit to free viewing of articles, especially ones that are hyperlinked externally (the hyperlink has a UUID embedded).

If you clear your cookies and visit this page: http://www.ft.com/comment

It is currently on the front page, and you can also find it from the "commentators" and selecting John Gapper. HTH

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

There is a "copy" of that FT article here:

Copy of FT Article

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Alex. This should be a win-win situation.

If the CoL perform a thorough investigation (and have a favourable conclusion) then great.

If they don't do that then this gives Viviane Reding's team a bigger stick to hit the government with.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Funny how multiple failures by authorities or wide-ranging incompetency can appear indistinguishable to an outsider from a conspiracy or cover-up.

I suspect what is happening is that very few people in government have bothered to look past the spin and whispers of support from old chums but to us it seems like we are being stonewalled by a conspiracy...

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Thanks, I see it on that site. As per Oblonsky's explanation, I didn't get the article shown to me at all via the ft.com link.
"... FT.com has also talked to Phorm and, to round things off, Mr Ertugrul’s sister is an FT journalist. ..."

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I suspect that what Alex will tell us about the City of London police is something like this :
They've confirmed they've got it, but have far too many cases of international fraud involving substantial amounts of money being stolen etc to devote any meaningful resources to a case where no-one appears to have lost any money or suffered any real harm.
They are stretched, I had dealings with the Serious Fraud Office about 10 years ago and at that point they could not allocate any personnel to crimes where less than £1m had been purloined. I suspect things have not improved in that time and that your case will be just chucked on a pile and left to gather dust.
Personally i think that is the approach they should take. I know I will be in the minority here !
Far happier for the police who's salaries I pay through my taxes to concentrate on real crime.
Phorm should be left to get on with its business and make sure that whatever it rolls out finally is compliant with whatever laws it thinks it needs to comply with, and with the tacit agreement of the authorities.

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PS on the Mr Ertugrul's sister thing. This was discussed on another site months ago and I believe it was established that she was a journo, but not at the FT. So rather ungentlemanly to have a pop (however disguised) at her.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

And as usual, your presumptions/suspicians would be incorrect.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

This correct?: