Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Presumably if you have a private mail server in your garage you will be subject to the same requirements as any other provider. Of course enforcing it is another matter. Don't forget the mail servers hosted outside of the EU too (both private and public).

Personally I hope they ask for a list of my e-mail addresses. I have over 30,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 of them!

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

In my opinion I wonder if they are trying to avoid the full heat of the US Congress inquisition and are doing another 121Media ContextPlus/PeopleOnPage type runner from the USA.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Abandoning the US market would be a very painful thing for phorm to do because they see it as having huge potential. Unfortunately for phorm its looking like they will be forced out of the US and the EU. That's two big slices of the global market taken away from them.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Maybe someone could help me here.


But i am sure i read somewhere that the BCS would kick out members if they were involved with phorm type stuff. This is because of the BCS rules.


now we just need to find out who involved is a member of the BCS ???

Edit: found it.

http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=ConWebDoc.18993

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

What I was suggesting is that it is trivial to amend the DPI to siphon off port 25 and 110 traffic as well as port 80. Scan for keywords etc. My point was that even if you have your own mailserver, the data still traverses the ISP's network and is subject to DPI.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Although organisations generally can't tell you who IS a member because of DPA they are often willing to give you a negative.
Question - Is Dr Mengele a member of the Red Cross?
Answer - We do not have any record of Dr Mengele being a member of the Red Cross either now or in the past.

So you could make your own list and then ask if any of the people are NOT members, and also of course give the BCS your reason for asking, and remind them of the quote, and provide some checkable evidence of the people's involvement with DPI and covert trials.

So I would be inclined to list people like Stratis Scleparis for example (currently CTO at Phorm, formerly CTO at BT Retail), and the Phorm list, including Hugo Drayton, Kent Ertugrul, and of course a fair collection of BT Retail execs, as well as the current CEO who headed up BT Retail at the time of the secret trials.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

If you look on the BCS site you'll find details of members (like me) who've opted to make their membership details public (allowing you to positively confirm membership).

http://wam.bcs.org/wam/memberdirectory.aspx

When I lasted looked for significant names, I didn't find any I recognised, but there are obviously more names known now.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

But this only works for chartered members and above, doesn't it?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I think They use the definition from dictionary.com

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...parent&x=0&y=0

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

one thing about using dpi to pick up key words will it be in context? like "they was bombing it down the hill on their bikes"
Two key words would they be taken out of context, you get ads servered up for a bike and the sas kicking your front door in.. software is not that clever is, so it will be tagged and viewed by a human thinking it`s all coded text they reading.
:)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

That's an excellent way of describing it Spiny Norman, and perfectly sums up BT and Phorm's activities.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I've said before - one of my biggest passions is Fender Telecaster guitars and they are commonly called Tele's. I expect to be bombarded with adverts for Panasonic TV's which are of no interest to me.

Bear in mind that the internet is global and i have to wonder what Phorm will make of the American use of the word fanny - somewhat different to the one we are used to.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

So. Target people who regularly take part in on-line surveys to be the Phorm guinea-pigs? Offer a money incentive?

Makes sense from the BT point of view, but they can never claim it to be a typical cross-section of the UK public.

Good find. I hope she follows up with more information if she follows it through.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Text version of 'Open Letter to Internet Businesses'. I'll create a PDF version soon.

http://nodpi.wikispaces.com/Propaganda2