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Alan Fry 18-02-2012 14:38
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35383948)
If the Sunday Times has its own staff, its own production schedule and its own editor, in what sense is it simply a seventh daily edition of the Times?

I'll answer it for you: it isn't. And you don't know what you're talking about.
They share the same editorial policy, board of directors and style, you can also jointly subscribe to them as well.

It is clear that they are closely linked, more so than The Guardian and
The Observer!

Chris 18-02-2012 15:19
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They have the same parent company and the same target market. They are not the same product.

Alan Fry 18-02-2012 15:23
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35384007)
They have the same parent company and the same target market. They are not the same product.
You are right about the fact they are not the same product, but they are largely are the same with the same board of directors and style of content, along with othe rlinks, but they do have the diffrent editorial teams!

Chris 18-02-2012 15:41
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In which case, the Sunday Times is not simply an edition of The Times published on a Sunday.

Maggy 18-02-2012 16:26
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Again we are in danger of wandering up a cul de sac..

papa smurf 18-02-2012 16:45
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35384007)
They have the same parent company and the same target market. They are not the same product.
if it looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk its usually a skunk;)

Tim Deegan 18-02-2012 18:37
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35383825)
It really wasn't. It had its own staff, from top to bottom, for starters. The News of the Screws had its own editorial agenda and also, the production of a weekly newspaper is an entirely different process to that of a daily.

It was owned by the same parent company, but then the Times is too.

If "The Sun on Sunday" is simply a seventh daily edition of the Sun, then it will be quite a different publication to the Screws. However, I think it more likely that Murdoch is simply trying to re-launch the Screws.
I know it had different staff, but I think you are missing my point. The Sun is a Monday to Saturday gutter press tabloid. The News of the World was News International's Sunday edition gutter press tabloid. All the Sunday edition of the Sun will be doing is filling that void, with a similar stayle paper.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35384067)
if it looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk its usually a skunk;)
I wish I could have put it as simple as that :clap:

Maggy 18-02-2012 19:10
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Historically the NOTW was not a sister Sunday paper for the Sun.If it had been it would have been called The Sunday Sun or the Sun on Sunday.

It was called the name it had carried for 168 years.The News of the World.

Chris 18-02-2012 19:14
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35384112)
I know it had different staff, but I think you are missing my point. The Sun is a Monday to Saturday gutter press tabloid. The News of the World was News International's Sunday edition gutter press tabloid. All the Sunday edition of the Sun will be doing is filling that void, with a similar stayle paper.

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I wish I could have put it as simple as that :clap:
Don't be beguiled by simplicity. The editorial priorities of the News of the World were quite different to those of the Sun and those differences are absolutely crucial to the kind of impact the Sun on Sunday is likely to make in its target market.

On that point, "Gutter press" is simply a perjorative term for the market segment it occupied. It does not follow that two "gutter press" products made by the same company are essentially the same product.

Maggy 18-02-2012 19:30
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Anyway it it doesn't matter..What matters is that Murdoch seems to think he has gotten away with something..:rolleyes:

denphone 18-02-2012 19:32
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35384156)
Anyway it it doesn't matter..What matters is that Murdoch seems to think he has gotten away with something..:rolleyes:
And we have to hope that the authorities make sure that he does not get away with it.

Tim Deegan 18-02-2012 20:46
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35384141)
Don't be beguiled by simplicity. The editorial priorities of the News of the World were quite different to those of the Sun and those differences are absolutely crucial to the kind of impact the Sun on Sunday is likely to make in its target market.

On that point, "Gutter press" is simply a perjorative term for the market segment it occupied. It does not follow that two "gutter press" products made by the same company are essentially the same product.
That's all a matter of opinion!

Chris 18-02-2012 21:42
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35384187)
That's all a matter of opinion!
The opinion of a mattress-selling fireman versus the opinion of a trained and time served old hack ... :D

Tim Deegan 18-02-2012 22:20
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35384224)
The opinion of a mattress-selling fireman versus the opinion of a trained and time served old hack ... :D
With repect, you know nothing at all about my experience or skills. ;)

In mine, and many other peoples opinions, it's quite obvious that the Sun will just replace the news of the world.

papa smurf 18-02-2012 22:34
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35384224)
The opinion of a mattress-selling fireman versus the opinion of a trained and time served old hack ... :D
fleet street -local high street or free press ?


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