Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

So the Dossier only had One name on it then?
What about all the others waiting for a test case who haven't been able to get PC Plod to take a Crime No .....!

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

"BT is obliged by the terms of its Oftel licence to provide phone taps for the secret services or police if a warrant has been obtained from the Home Secretary or Foreign Secretary." - Capenhurst Tower

"A rapist who admitted spying on his neighbours by using a camera hidden in their bedroom has been sent to prison for an indefinite period." - BBC News

"Since 2003 Thames Water has notched up more fines than any other water company - £489,000 for 31 offences." - Times Online

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Ah right, now we know your ethical stance - someone has to die before any of this matters to you. Sticking your head in the sand may work for you, but I guess other people find engaging with the issues and employing one or two brain cells more satisfying. Fortunately for the future of ISP users in the UK.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

No, what I'm saying is that no harm has been done in the tests.
Tests necessary to make sure that what is ACTUALLY rolled out is robust and complies with whatever is thought necessary. I think it will be.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

hamster wheel ... round in circles ?

dont rise to the bait.

phil

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Sometimes you need to keep someone occupied so they don't see what's happening elsewhere....

Others can do the same though. ;)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Good entertainment value as well :D

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Spoken personally to another 4 firms today and left the flyers
seemingly good response from them no one threw me out and they all listened

Phil

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

History will record that Phorm is the only company to have had hundreds of very intelligent people reviewing and testing its 'system' to breaking point without taking any financial reward for themselves.
All parties who have benefited from this testing should be very grateful for the financial savings it has offered and that it has helped to preserve their personal freedom.

Despite all this assistance, the system has not yet begun to work on a method whereby websites can give permission for interception under RIPA nor have they provided any budget nor agreement for the licence fees due on the copies made of the web content which are used to create the profile.

After 2 years no one has yet seen the opt-in method for the ISP customers. How many years will it take to write the opt-in method for websites?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

As a Phorm shareholder, I am very grateful for all your unpaid work :D

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha haha ha ha ha :D

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Why are we spinning the wheel? I'm bored. Every time bad news needs burying the Phorm PR dilutes the content with same old same old. If we respond we dilute also IMHO.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

At the end of the day its still intercepting private data no-one is allowed to do that and shouldnt ever unless that person is a danger to other people or is likeley to commit crime then such interceptions in anyones eyes are valid and relevant steps are taken to monitor those individuals.

Phorm's ideas from the outset have always been illegal it is wiretapping plain and simple, which phorm/nebuad e.t.c know full well what it is but are trying to polish the illegal activity up and tie a few £££ to it to make it attractive to isp's, if phorm ever ever get the goahead to roll this illegal activity out how many people do the isp's expect to have left?.

very very soon the uk media will have to take this whole thing very seriously then we'll see how good of an idea setting wiretaps up in the isp in the sake of advertising is ;).

And as for mr wheel's comments that only 1 person was harmed i belive i was harmed and the dodgy phorm kit caused problems with my hardware and im on virgin media so explain that one then because virgin media sure as hell havent to me yet.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

This should nopt have been tested on customers without informing them that BT would be doing tests.

The fact T told a customer who noticed he had spyware on takes the trust out for BT. The fact BT have stopped talking to customers doesn't help.

You test new software not at the expense of customers, when a customer ends up buying new equipment then BT has place a finacial loss on a customer due to their covert, stealth, economy of the truth.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Except for a big dent in BT's reputation, Phorm losing millions off their share value, the ICO and the UK government being forced to explain their actions to the EU Commissioner and the shareholders who have lost a fortune, BT staff being forced to lie to customers...

...wait a minute - none of that would have happened if we hadn't discovered the secret trials.

That means it's all our fault. Oops.