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Derek 04-08-2012 17:27

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So it wasn't down to Duggan, who in no way was a criminal, had no criminal links, access to firearms and didn't throw away a gun when challenged by Police :erm: getting shot then?

They were just looking for any excuse.

Osem 04-08-2012 17:52

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Spot on!

Sirius 04-08-2012 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35459788)
So it wasn't down to Duggan, who in no way was a criminal, had no criminal links, access to firearms and didn't throw away a gun when challenged by Police :erm: getting shot then?

They were just looking for any excuse.

Bang on the button. :tu:

Chris 04-08-2012 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35459757)
No, no........it was a
link So it was nothing to do with them being **** in the first place :dozey:

The only thing that Grauniad "research" demonstrates is just how badly you can get suckered by observer bias without even realising it.

What a surprise, all the rioters have the same hand-wringing concerns as your average yoghurt-knitting, Graun-reading Hampstead liberal.

Ramrod 04-08-2012 22:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35459860)
The only thing that Grauniad "research" demonstrates is just how badly you can get suckered by observer bias without even realising it.

.......and that some people can be so open minded that their brains fall out......:D

Maggy 05-08-2012 08:39

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Well on Radio 4 according to one turned around teenager this morning it was the fault of teachers who didn't give one to one teaching in secondary school.:(

However he got the one to one when he went onto college.

Of course no mention of the time constraints on secondary teachers who will be teaching at least 21 classes out of 25 in a week on average and then rely on teaching extra sessions at the end of the day to help smaller groups of examination students to help catch-up.

Of course many lecturers at college have 2-3 classes in lower and upper years and therefore do have time to give to supporting poorer performing students..

Osem 05-08-2012 21:14

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It's always someone else's fault isn't it - far easier than taking responsibility for your own actions.

martyh 05-08-2012 21:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35459912)
Well on Radio 4 according to one turned around teenager this morning it was the fault of teachers who didn't give one to one teaching in secondary school.:(

However he got the one to one when he went onto college.

Of course no mention of the time constraints on secondary teachers who will be teaching at least 21 classes out of 25 in a week on average and then rely on teaching extra sessions at the end of the day to help smaller groups of examination students to help catch-up.

Of course many lecturers at college have 2-3 classes in lower and upper years and therefore do have time to give to supporting poorer performing students..

What a load of absolute crap (not your post Maggie ;))I could blame loads of things and people for me not being a millionaire or at least not better off ,so could everyone ,as Osem said blaming someone else is the easy option and relying on someone else is even easier

Stuart 25-08-2012 14:25

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Just found an interesting tool that tracks the spread of twitter rumours in the riots.

Derek 18-09-2012 10:53

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Shock! Horror!

The completely innocent and in no way criminally connected man executed in cold blood by the Police sparking off the riots :rolleyes: may have actually been carrying a loaded gun.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19635639

Quote:

A loaded handgun was given to Mark Duggan 15 minutes before he was shot dead by police in Tottenham last year, a court has heard.

Osem 18-09-2012 12:58

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Quelle surprise!!!! :rolleyes:

Derek 18-09-2012 13:01

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Funnily enough the Guardian don't seem to have reported it yet...

Damien 18-09-2012 13:06

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Is it really a surprise that people thought the police made a mistake? Public confidence in the police isn't especially high. The truth has come out, thankfully, and the police were right and the critics of the police were wrong. The sarcasm isn't warranted however because this was not obvious to many people.

Osem 18-09-2012 17:29

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Not for me! Perhaps those 'folks' for whom it wasn't 'obvious' ought to have reserved their actions and retribution until the facts were known. I dare say some of these people will, even now, insist this guy was set up, assassinated, the wholly innocent victim of a racist police state or whatever because that's a whole lot easier than looking at themselves and the way in which they choose to behave and live their lives.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35475485)
Funnily enough the Guardian don't seem to have reported it yet...

Wonder why?? :confused: :rolleyes:

Chris 18-09-2012 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35475489)
Is it really a surprise that people thought the police made a mistake? Public confidence in the police isn't especially high.

It's called confirmation bias. People see the evidence they want to see - the evidence that confirms what they already believe to be true.


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