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TheDaddy 10-02-2011 11:06

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35171257)
I have to say that while I am not surprised by the decision I think it was a poor one. I question West Ham's ability to fill a 60,000 seater stadium and the choice to keep the running track and the impact it will have on the atmosphere and the fans at the ground. Obviously keeping the running track is the reason West Ham won the bid, the rest of the bid was inferior to Spurs and they require public money. However how will the OPLC enforce West Ham keep the track? Unless there is a pretty clever solution I envisage it being gone within a season or two.

Oh yes Spurs was by far the better bid, to rip down a brand new stadium and screw up several other major developments would have made sound sense, there is a reason 12 London Boroughs supported the hammers bid and that has nothing to do with running tracks and the £40 million public money was already set aside for the conversion and is less than Arsenal recieved when they moved to the Emerites.

Damien 10-02-2011 11:37

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35171286)
Oh yes Spurs was by far the better bid, to rip down a brand new stadium and screw up several other major developments would have made sound sense, there is a reason 12 London Boroughs supported the hammers bid and that has nothing to do with running tracks and the £40 million public money was already set aside for the conversion and is less than Arsenal recieved when they moved to the Emerites.

Spurs had a better bid because it's easy to understand how they will fill the Stadium and how they will make it economically viable. Taking down the Stadium would be embarrassing but then the initial idea, when the stadium was being designed, is that the Stadium would be knocked down to 25,000 seats anyway. It wasn't designed as a Football Stadium, it wasn't designed to be a long term 60,000 seater Stadium. While people have been admonishing Spurs for the great crime of rebuilding it they are forgetting they are only going slightly further than the initial plans were in the first place.

The £40 million was not 'already set aside' this is money loaned from Newham to West Ham which was not available to Spurs. Remember the Stadium and area was built with public money in the first place. Whoever got it would benefit, the £40 million (which is a loan anyway) is not the end of the public investment. All of which totals more than Arsenal got.

The Spurs bid had bit the bullet. Remove the running track, move out of Tottenham. They had acknowledged the flaws in their bid and how to remedy them. I still don't see how West Ham plan to fill the stadium or how all the finance will work (the owners have said they will underwrite any losses in the event the Hammers go down, is this promise legally binding?).

I would rather they made it the athletics only stadium they had planned too of course. I also find it quite funny that Spurs are back to the drawing board on their Stadium plans. However if it's going to be a Football Stadium, I preferred the Spurs plan.

Pog66 10-02-2011 11:54

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
But didn't the Spurs plan also get scupperred by Crystal Palace now looking to move into the CP athletics stadium? The Spurs proposal would have redeveloped that stadium to ensure there was an atheltics legacy after the Olynpics were finished

Damien 10-02-2011 12:00

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35171321)
But didn't the Spurs plan also get scupperred by Crystal Palace now looking to move into the CP athletics stadium? The Spurs proposal would have redeveloped that stadium to ensure there was an atheltics legacy after the Olynpics were finished

Maybe. Whole thing became awkward when they decided to give it too Football tbh. I would rather they knocked it down to the 25,000 seater and make it available to other sports.

TheDaddy 10-02-2011 12:09

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35171325)
Maybe. Whole thing became awkward when they decided to give it too Football tbh. I would rather they knocked it down to the 25,000 seater and make it available to other sports.

So would I, much, much prefer it. Oh and the money is already in place for the stadium I believe, the costs they were refering to at least the other day were the clubs general running.

yesman 12-02-2011 14:49

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United 2 City 1

Well taken goal by Rooney.....

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodi...-city-8477708/

Mal 12-02-2011 15:03

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Mike Summerbee on Sky :rofl:

He's not bitter :rofl:

He's was talking stats and possession until Sky showed the stats and then he wasn't talking stats ;)

Damien 12-02-2011 18:55

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Didn't see the game? Is it true City actually tried to score?

Mal 12-02-2011 19:36

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35173118)
Didn't see the game? Is it true City actually tried to score?

Well, they had more attempts this game than the derby at Eastlands. Neither goalie had to do much.

We weren't superb, but we took our chances.

SB_07 12-02-2011 22:54

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Shamed football pundit Richard Keys described a black player as “choco” in an outrageous racist outburst.
Keys made the shocking remark while rehearsing for a Sky broadcast with ex-footballers Graeme Souness and Ray Wilkins.
Oh dear!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22919246/

iadom 12-02-2011 23:05

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Come on, that was 11 years ago, I am not a fan of Keys or Gray but this is just getting damned ridiculous.:rolleyes:

Hom3r 15-02-2011 21:31

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WTF why wasn't Mathieu Flamini sent off for that tackle in the AC Milan v Spurs.

Gennaro Gattuso should be on a red as well

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COYS Crouchy puts in it in the back of the net.

Shadow Demon UK 15-02-2011 21:47

Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Gattuso is a nutter, thought he would have calmed down in the later stages of his career but he seems to have got worse.

Hom3r 15-02-2011 21:55

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Gennaro Gattuso should be fined and banned for the after match headbutt incident.

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What's the Italian for bad loser?

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Hopefully Uefa punish him for what has been utterly awful behaviour on his part

Damien 15-02-2011 21:56

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Looks like a very good chance Spurs will get further than Arsenal in the CL this season. Gah!


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