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Mobes 13-07-2019 15:03
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Neither!

Angua 13-07-2019 15:21
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In answer to the thread title.. No.

I am with Oscar Wilde on this "The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable".

ianch99 13-07-2019 15:28
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36002333)
Really??? I wasn't aware we'd had a referendum on fox hunting.
Yes, really. Did you not get the invite?

richard s 13-07-2019 22:38
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When we have wiped all the animals out what will the hunters do then! hunt people for their blood lust.

Maggy 13-07-2019 23:14
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Again,topic?

tweetiepooh 15-07-2019 14:54
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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 36002448)
When we have wiped all the animals out what will the hunters do then! hunt people for their blood lust.
Good hunters don't kill everything. They keep to quotas and often are very attuned to the natural conditions. Why? Because they want to keep hunting.

ianch99 15-07-2019 15:51
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36002743)
Good hunters don't kill everything. They keep to quotas and often are very attuned to the natural conditions. Why? Because they want to keep hunting.
What is a "good" hunter in the context of fox hunting?

This whole area is a fascinating subject. The majority of the population, in principle, object to citizens being allowed to inhumanely kill wild animals. You add the fact that most of those doing this are part of the wealthy elite then it seals the deal.

Even if those doing this were from all parts of society this would still be objected by the majority of the population.

Let me pose this scenario: if you went walking in the country with your family dog and it ran off. You later discover it was ripped to shreds by a pack of dogs leds by people hunting on horseback. Would you have a problem with this?

It highlights the fragility of the moral & practical justification of said activity. If you support blood sports then you cannot argue against hunting urban cats with dogs, or the import of bullfighting from Spain or the reimposition of bear baiting. The list goes on.

This ship has sailed ..

richard s 15-07-2019 20:36
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No such thing as good hunters just killers.

Sephiroth 15-07-2019 20:48
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36002750)
What is a "good" hunter in the context of fox hunting?

This whole area is a fascinating subject. The majority of the population, in principle, object to citizens being allowed to inhumanely kill wild animals. You add the fact that most of those doing this are part of the wealthy elite then it seals the deal.

Even if those doing this were from all parts of society this would still be objected by the majority of the population.

Let me pose this scenario: if you went walking in the country with your family dog and it ran off. You later discover it was ripped to shreds by a pack of dogs leds by people hunting on horseback. Would you have a problem with this?

It highlights the fragility of the moral & practical justification of said activity. If you support blood sports then you cannot argue against hunting urban cats with dogs, or the import of bullfighting from Spain or the reimposition of bear baiting. The list goes on.

This ship has sailed ..
If I turn this on its head (as I did in an earlier post) and consider that the said pack of dogs were wild and behaving naturally, then ripping a fox to shreds, would you have a problem with this?

ianch99 15-07-2019 20:51
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36002802)
If I turn this on its head (as I did in an earlier post) and consider that the said pack of dogs were wild and behaving naturally, then ripping a fox to shreds, would you have a problem with this?
Are you discussing events in the natural food chain where predators either being positioned through conventional means or through human intervention? If so no ..

I would question, however, why there are wild packs of dogs roaming the countryside ..

jfman 15-07-2019 20:51
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36002802)
If I turn this on its head (as I did in an earlier post) and consider that the said pack of dogs were wild and behaving naturally, then ripping a fox to shreds, would you have a problem with this?
At least in that case human involvement wouldn't have been a deciding factor.

ianch99 15-07-2019 20:54
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36002804)
At least in that case human involvement wouldn't have been a deciding factor.
It would be although indirectly. The said pack of wild dogs would not be the normal apex predator in our countryside ..

richard s 16-07-2019 21:38
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No it is the the things dressed-up in funny clothes and riding lovely animals which are really the pack of animals.

Mr K 17-07-2019 08:25
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Why can't they hunt cats instead? Plenty of support for that.....

Maggy 17-07-2019 08:52
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36002970)
Why can't they hunt cats instead? Plenty of support for that.....

:bsmack:


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