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Hugh 07-12-2023 22:48
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36166158)
I don't understand how anyone can take us seriously when we pass a law instructing our highest court to ignore some existing laws. What a joke.
You don’t understand - under the Rwanda Bill, if the Government says Rwanda is safe, no evidence or ruling that shows this to be false is allowed or admissible in U.K. Courts.

Also, it’s a balmy 23 degrees Centigrade in the U.K. for the next three weeks, Energy Bills are reducing, there is no sewage in our waterways, and if you disagree, you are guilty of thoughtcrime, and so must practice crimestop…

ianch99 07-12-2023 22:54
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36166160)
You don’t understand - under the Rwanda Bill, if the Government says Rwanda is safe, no evidence or ruling that shows this to be false is allowed or admissible in U.K. Courts.

Also, it’s a balmy 23 degrees Centigrade in the U.K. for the next three weeks, Energy Bills are reducing, there is no sewage in our waterways, and if you disagree, you are guilty of thoughtcrime, and so must practice crimestop…
Or in other words:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-p...7643298/page/3

Quote:
Parliament being asked to say a cat is a dog - former minister

A former Conservative solicitor general has told the BBC the government should "find a practical policy response" to immigration issues rather than "try to evade the law".

Edward Garnier, who served under David Cameron between 2010 and 2012, says the government's plan is "legislation by assertion that cannot be challenged".

In a statement to BBC Radio 4's Today programme he said:

"Parliament is being required to pass a law that says a cat is a dog even when there’s no evidence to suggest that’s true and you cannot challenge it"

Paddy1 08-12-2023 06:52
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
"There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad.

Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it."

See also -

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Is that the time already?

Hugh 08-12-2023 09:50
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Rwanda bill risks failing, top lawyers warned Rishi Sunak

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4...f04c2dd683998a

Quote:
A government source said in response: “Since this bill was published, a raft of eminent lawyers have advised that this bill means that the courts will not be able to block us from getting flights off to Rwanda to stop the boats. This includes Lord Sumption, the former Supreme Court judge, who said he believes the legislation will work on the basis that ‘the courts will do what they are told to do’.”

Pierre 08-12-2023 10:34
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36166162)
Quote:
Parliament is being required to pass a law that says a cat is a dog even when there’s no evidence to suggest that’s true and you cannot challenge it
We are asked to suspend the truth of reality everyday. We are told that if a man says he is woman, then he is a woman and if we challenge it, we're Transphobe bigots.

Therefore, I see no issue with the proposition.

1andrew1 08-12-2023 10:43
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36166198)
We are asked to suspend the truth of reality everyday. We are told that if a man says he is woman, then he is a woman and if we challenge it, we're Transphobe bigots.

Therefore, I see no issue with the proposition.
Assuming that is right, do two wrongs ever make a right?

Sephiroth 08-12-2023 12:00
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36166199)
Assuming that is right, do two wrongs ever make a right?
It depends on context. It needs at minimum three sentences to make the determination.

1. Wrong #1

2. Wrong #2

3. Statement of a derived conclusion.

1andrew1 08-12-2023 13:39
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36166196)
Rwanda bill risks failing, top lawyers warned Rishi Sunak

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4...f04c2dd683998a
Even if its's passed, the attempt to copy Australia looks set to fail as Australia can send boats back to the countries they came from and the UK cannot.
Quote:
Australia’s methods, however controversial, have been more effective at preventing people from reaching its borders irregularly by sea.

It has achieved this because it could intercept the migrants in international waters in boats that were much larger than those typically used in the Channel, making them easier to spot. It was then able to turn back those on board to their countries of departure under agreements with the relevant governments. A smaller number of migrants were sent to detention centres in Papua New Guinea and Nauru.

“Because the boats were intercepted, people stopped trying. You cannot do that in the Channel,” said Colin Yeo an immigration lawyer and author of the Free Movement blog, pointing out there were no international waters on the routes favoured by smugglers between France and Britain. “The idea that removing a few hundred or thousand to Rwanda would stop the others coming has no basis.”
https://www.ft.com/content/c666ae8f-...3-4c3f12841525

Hugh 14-12-2023 10:48
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67714132

Quote:
Suspended Tory MP Scott Benton faces 35-day Commons ban

Scott Benton faces being suspended from Parliament, after the Commons standards watchdog found he committed a "very serious breach" of lobbying rules.

The Committee on Standards recommended the MP should be suspended for 35 days.

If approved by MPs, this could lead to a by-election in his Blackpool South constituency.

Mr Benton was suspended as a Tory MP earlier this year after he was filmed offering to lobby ministers for a fake company in a newspaper sting.
In a meeting with reporters posing as gambling industry investors, he was caught offering to lobby ministers and table parliamentary questions.

The committee's report said he had given the message "he was corrupt and 'for sale'".

Mr K 14-12-2023 15:11
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36166558)
Yet another one bites the dust.

You don't have to be a corrupt, villain and or/sex pest to be a Tory MP, but it helps

Damien 15-12-2023 17:57
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Just seems to be the general trend that after 8-10 or so years Governments go stale and the members of it (or those of the governing party anyway) go mad. They get too comfortable in their positions and think they'll rule forever.

2019 probably didn't help in that respect either as with Corbyn they could pretty much do whatever they liked and win a majority.

Hugh 18-12-2023 14:43
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-...-commissioner/

There are currently eight MPs currently under investigation by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, and they appear to have one thing in common…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1702906838

Paul 18-12-2023 14:55
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36166782)
and they appear to have one thing in common…
Which is what ? Nothing obvious on you image.

peanut 18-12-2023 14:59
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36166784)
Which is what ? Nothing obvious on you image.
They all have their snouts firmly in the trough basically.

denphone 18-12-2023 15:09
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36166785)
They all have their snouts firmly in the trough basically.
Indeed members of parliament should be there to serve their constituents who voted them in.

The coming election and likely result might just be the train crash that makes some of them realise that.


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