Cable Forum - Brexit

Don't want to believe everything you're fed in the papers Smurf ! Thank God there are some sensible Tories about, otherwise we'd be a banana republic by now.

papa smurf

08-04-2019 12:07

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35990456)

Don't want to believe everything you're fed in the papers Smurf ! Thank God there are some sensible Tories about, otherwise we'd be a banana republic by now.

“The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience.”

1andrew1

08-04-2019 13:07

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35990452)

Interesting, I wonder what that will be about.

It's about MX2 (a second meaningful extension). ;)

Pierre

08-04-2019 13:26

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35990452)

Interesting, I wonder what that will be about.

Brexit probably.

RichardCoulter

08-04-2019 14:45

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35990467)

Brexit probably.

Obviously :D

Heard a new buzzword today with Brexit becoming such a sideshow; "Bretflix".

Mr K	08-04-2019 15:34

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35990476)

Obviously :D

Heard a new buzzword today with Brexit becoming such a sideshow; "Bretflix".

There is definitely a potential musical to be made out of Brexit. Bit like Les Miserables, but more depressing...

OLD BOY

08-04-2019 15:36

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35990426)

Anyone can see there’s at least four contradictory statements by you.

I’m getting lost, you either can or can’t negotiate trade deals for services while in a customs union.

You seem further confused that I want the “best of both worlds” in relation to goods - that’s not the case. I’ve clearly said for a number of posts now a customs union (not to be confused with the customs union) covering goods and separate trade deals with the world covering services. I’ve lost track whether you believe it is possible or not but I can assure the forum your belief in it or otherwise is irrelevant, it is possible.

In around half of your posts you seem to grasp this. However in the other half it’s gone.

I am dying to hear what these four contradictory statements are!

It is true that some time back, I said if we could get a customs arrangement that also allowed us to negotiate trade deals for goods and services on our own, that would be a good thing. However, everything I have read on this subject says it can't be done.

If we could get a customs arrangement as well as the freedom to forge trade deals on goods and services, that would indeed be the best of both worlds, and I would be happy with that. But outside of cloud cuckoo land, I'm afraid that's not possible.

RichardCoulter

08-04-2019 15:46

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35990488)

There is definitely a potential musical to be made out of Brexit. Bit like Les Miserables, but more depressing...

I'm (seriously) expecting that in years to come a film or drama will be made about the extraordinarily events surrounding Brexit. I suspect it will be one of those where they will use facts that are available and accounts about what went on in secret by reliable witnesses who would remain anonymous.

It's clear that May's political career (of any substance) is coming to an end. If she doesn't remain as a backbencher, I expect that she will write a book about, or including, her account of Brexit too.

OLD BOY

08-04-2019 15:46

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35990433)

I don't get it either. Old Boy, are those all your posts or has someone jumped on your computer when you've been away from your desk?

What contradictory posts are you two on about? I'm sure I've explained my position coherently, so either you are misinterpreting what I've said or you are mis-remembering.

For the record, a customs union is completely unacceptable to me unless we have the capacity to make our own deals on goods and services, and my understanding is that this is not possible. If you can show me I'm wrong on that, I will gladly accept it.

I am happy to leave with TM's deal if we can get out of the backstop, and I'm happy also to accept a no-deal.

That is my position and if you can point to where I've said anything to the contrary, I would be truly amazed.

Just getting the popcorn now...:D

jfman

08-04-2019 15:52

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35990493)

What contradictory posts are you two on about? I'm sure I've explained my position coherently, so either you are misinterpreting what I've said or you are mis-remembering.

For the record, a customs union is completely unacceptable to me unless we have the capacity to make our own deals on goods and services, and my understanding is that this is not possible. If you can show me I'm wrong on that, I will gladly accept it.

I am happy to leave with TM's deal if we can get out of the backstop, and I'm happy also to accept a no-deal.

That is my position and if you can point to where I've said anything to the contrary, I would be truly amazed.

Just getting the popcorn now...:D

Do you mean of the type that leaves us free to negotiate deals on services? Or the type where you can’t? Or neither?

Mick	08-04-2019 16:02

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BREAKING: Exec of the 1922 are due to go to No 10 imminently to meet with PM. Source: Sky News's Beth Rigby.

denphone

08-04-2019 16:08

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35990492)

I'm (seriously) expecting that in years to come a film or drama will be made about the extraordinarily events surrounding Brexit. I suspect it will be one of those where they will use facts that are available and accounts about what went on in secret by reliable witnesses who would remain anonymous.

It's clear that May's political career (of any substance) is coming to an end. If she doesn't remain as a backbencher, I expect that she will write a book about, or including, her account of Brexit too.

The BBC have already transmitted a drama about Brexit Richard.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brexit-Unci...4&s=dvd&sr=1-1

Dave42

08-04-2019 16:15

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35990497)

BREAKING: Exec of the 1922 are due to go to No 10 imminently to meet with PM. Source: Sky News's Beth Rigby.

she safe to December under tory party rules so cant see anything changing

denphone

08-04-2019 16:18

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