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philj

10-08-2008 20:29

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by philj (Post 34618689)

Anyone sent a copy of the diagram to PrivateEye?

PHil

I've sent one

Philj

bluecar1

10-08-2008 20:52

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

https://89.145.112.52/

??

Raistlin

10-08-2008 20:54

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Please don't post random links without saying what they are!

Ravenheart

10-08-2008 20:57

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Wherever that link was to Bluecar it tripped PeerGuardian and is showing as a Phorm IP

bluecar1

10-08-2008 21:09

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

sorry, it is a beta oix site i came across

peter

JackSon

10-08-2008 21:16

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by bluecar1 (Post 34618744)

https://89.145.112.52/

??

Oh the Irony!

madslug

10-08-2008 21:20

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by bluecar1 (Post 34618761)

sorry, it is a beta oix site i came across

At least it is UK hosted

bluecar1

10-08-2008 21:21

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by JackSon (Post 34618768)

Oh the Irony!

yep i know, an oix website with a phorm ssl cert but no attached dns tag so not sure where it sits in the grand plan, but probably something to do with advertisers login or channel partners

peter

phormwatch

10-08-2008 21:23

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

RE: https://89.145.112.52/

I can't connect to it at all. Can anyone else still access it? Is it my hosts file blocking it, perhaps, or have they stopped accepting connections?

philj

10-08-2008 21:26

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by phormwatch (Post 34618774)

RE: https://89.145.112.52/

I can't connect to it at all. Can anyone else still access it? Is it my hosts file blocking it, perhaps, or have they stopped accepting connections?

yep I get the security cert. warning

Phil

JackSon

10-08-2008 21:28

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Sorry, Phormwatch I can't confirm either way. I refused to accept the dodgy cert and left it at that. It is run by Gyron in London I believe, resolves to a very odd hostname of as29107.net. The dodgy cert claims it is Phorm owned so I suppose there is the possibility of it being a channel server for OIX. If you hosts file is blocking it it's probably for the best.

bluecar1

10-08-2008 21:36

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

you get a page with a banner saying OIX and a little beta tag if you accept the dodgy cert.

the reason you get the cert error is accessing the site via ip not dns name, but the site is clearly OIX yet has a phorm cert, issued by godaddy

yet another example of good safe practices by phorm :nono:

Rchivist

10-08-2008 21:49

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by R Jones (Post 34618578)

Now that is timely. The article focusses on the DBERR, formerly the Department of Twiddling and Inaction/Trade and Industry. Our friends that are coming under fire from their noble Lords, the Baroness Miller and Lord Northesk. Let's hit them from the citizenry end too with FOI requests.

Good to see a ruling from the Tribunal forcing them to come clean about who lobbies them and how, and who they talk to and when etc. That is very good news for us. If Phorm is just about commercial advantage, then the DBERR can't really refuse to divulge any lobbying or conversations about the system. So the only grounds for refusal to divulge contacts between DBERR and Phorm will have to be more substantial. Which will tell us a lot.

The FOI focus needs now to focus on DBERR and what they did and didn't know about Phorm, and who they did and didn't talk to about Phorm and when.

snip

So - what questions should we be asking of the DBERR? I imagine that we could take the Lord's questions as a guide.

snip

Bump - anyone interested in giving me info for this? I'll do the donkey work and send it in. Sooner the better, hit them while they're reeling from the Tribunal ruling.

Florence

10-08-2008 22:06

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Do we know if anyone met them from Phorm to attempt to slip in without legal prosicution.

bluecar1

10-08-2008 22:13

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by R Jones (Post 34618796)

Bump - anyone interested in giving me info for this? I'll do the donkey work and send it in. Sooner the better, hit them while they're reeling from the Tribunal ruling.

as the tribunal ruling was relating to lobbying

i would assume the best way forward is ask for details of any meeting with the three pr agencies and dberr relating to phorm or webwise

and poss a second one relating to details of any meeting with the phorm or BT and dberr relating to webwise

then home in on anything interesting you get in response

peter

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