Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

It can't be a very useful domain any more - not after BT let out that blocking this domain would make BT internet services unusable. As BT have promised to fix that little gremlin before everything goes live, some other domain must be being used in its place. With domains being so cheap by the 1,000s and subdomains costing nothing, it could be possible for each phormed request to be 307ed to a different domain. Nah, they wouldn't do that, would they?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Hey, 60 bucks and OIX.net is yours...

Your offer for oix.net
Domain: oix.net
Your Offer: 60 USD

Please complete the necessary contact details, so that we can fully process your offer

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

A roundrobin would not be out of the question I expect.

Alexander Hanff

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Gonna put an AntiPhorm site on it? I would ;)

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

nono use it for adverts for charities all free:angel:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Sometimes I get a little bored and wonder what will come out of the woodwork if I do a little wandering around.

Did a little search for webwise on the bt site
http://www.bt.com/retailsearch/searc...ieStatus%7E%7E

The second result leads to
http://bt.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/bt.cf...&p_faqid=10988

bt.custhelp.com is hosted on 81.110.142.41and a whois on ripe.net gives the following result
[quote]Whois has started ...

[Moderator Edit]

Does anything related to webwise get hosted by BT?

BTW custhelp.com has a US address as per alexa http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:N...m+custhelp.com
I wonder if BT cookies are leaked there too? - it leaks the 2o7.net tracking used on the bt.com site.

[Moderator Edit (Rob M): Copyrighted information removed]

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Originally these enquiries were going to Phorm direct via the contact us pages on the BT Webwise site (hosted by Fasthosts - famously devoured by a fire/power outage a few months ago to demonstrate the rock solid security of the system)
They forgot they were supposed to have overseas data processing partners signed up to the Safe Harbour agreement - still waiting for ICO to come back to me on that one....

At the time BT cookies were leaking like a sieve and being passed onto Phorm along with user ID and PII. still waiting for the ICO to come back to me on that one, and that reminds me - BT never replied to my formal Data Protection Act request (plus cheque) for details of which bits of my data got forwarded to Phorm via the Webwise contact us page and the leaky cookies. Must remind them they've broken the law again...

Then BT webwise jumped on a bouncy ball and ran around the world a few times, and now is with custhelp.com their regular customer facing enquiry site. It's more travelled than the Queen Lizze II cruise ship and a lot more leaky.

They have to outsource customer enquiries because everyone in BT has forgotten how to talk to customers. In fact I think they may not even know the meaning of the term - I think we are thought of as suppliers of data, and sources of cash - milch cow is the term I think.

Mostly it's in the UK now but I think there are some backup mirror sites in some strange American locations - wouldn't be surprised to find out that they aren't signed up to Safe Harbor agreement either.

Thanks for reminding me Madslug - time flies so quickly. I find it really difficult keeping on top of my BT law-breaking files. The pile is so high.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Sorry Stuart we will try to keep it more on topic mind it is good inphormation to help the fight against phorm since if Ryanair wins then what phorm will be doing to websites is halfway there to being illegal by a court.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Whilst Phorm/Webwise is known almost microscopically here, it is known superficially or not at all by too many other net users. The Downing Street petiition has been signed by over 16,000 people. It may well reach 20,000 or 30,000 or 100,000 or (let's go wild) 300,000. That's still a small dent in 10 million BT/VM/TT customers.

Spreading the word seems more important than dissecting every new bit of information that comes out of BT or wherever. Imho, the smart money would postpone Webwise until opposition is possibly less organised and vociferous. Let the climate cool as it were. The current financial turmoil is making Corporate decisions tough.

Imho, there's a waiting game to be played.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I agree. Meanwhile, some of us will soon need to get back to spending more time on work than we do on spreading the word. What ideas do you have to help motivate everyone to keep up the battle?

BTW - I view the hosts file as part of the 'money talks' battle. Stop the ads displaying, stop the tracking scripts, stop the cookies.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

(updated)

From a web masters PoV, identifying a wide range of technical/legal/commercial countermeasures is critical at this stage.

Because law enforcement and regulation has simply utterly failed to do its job.

You are right. As ever, spreading the word at grass roots level remains critical. The mainstream press are clearly not willing to cover this (though they obviously should).

Phorm must be stopped

Pete

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I would add to that, Users would be far more willing to Sign the Petition if they realized the Dangers of the Direct Injection techniques being used by ISPs specifically in relation to their Browsers!

http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com...324395,00.html

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Points understood and taken from all. I'm just a little concerned that all those in the know, know everything and those not in the know aren't finding out at least something. :)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Looks like those Sedo listings for OIX.net and Webwise.net really are genuine. :drool:

Sedo have a published procedure for confirming ownership of domains listed.






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