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Hugh	02-06-2025 15:43

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post

Er - £1 billion per week it costs to house/feed these undocumented people of fighting age. A waste of taxpayers’ money? Or what?

Even the Mail and the Reformgraph don’t exaggerate as much as you - last month, they quoted £4 million per day, which doesn’t add up to £1 billion per week…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oared-NAO.html

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197489)

It's Hugh’s go-to method to demand evidence in the face of the bleeding obvious.

"bleeding obvious" like your £1 billion per week?

1andrew1

02-06-2025 16:30

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36197494)

Even the Mail and the Reformgraph don’t exaggerate as much as you - last month, they quoted £4 million per day, which doesn’t add up to £1 billion per week…

Somewhere in Dubai, Richard Tice is looking for the magic calculator he left at Heathrow....

Paul	02-06-2025 16:38

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36197490)

We've sacrificed the ability to return unlawful migrants to France and gained sovereignty.

Are you suggesting half have already claimed asylum elsewhere ?

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The EU law allows member states to return illegal migrants who had previously claimed asylum in another member state to those countries.

Itshim

02-06-2025 18:34

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How about copying Israels solution

Russ	02-06-2025 18:45

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197486)

The legal hurdles to Rwanda had been overcome, subject to any last minute appeal by a deportee. Ignoring the law has never been a UK government option.

Surely you knew that?

I did. Now read it in context.

OLD BOY

02-06-2025 20:43

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36197430)

Was never intended to happen, it was just a scam to fool people into voting Conservative. It was an expensive waste of tax payers' money.

Don’t be daft, Andrew.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36197456)

So you're in favour of a government being able to ignore the law as it sees fit in order to force policies through?

Wow. Even for you, wow.

No, and again you are reading things into my posts that are not there.

Changing the law and ignoring the law are not the same thing.

RichardCoulter

02-06-2025 20:47

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Does the fact that we've left the EU make it any easier or harder to resolve this problem?

Sephiroth

02-06-2025 20:54

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36197525)

Don’t be daft, Andrew.

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No, and again you are reading things into my posts that are not there.

Changing the law and ignoring the law are not the same thing.

A sea horse is not a horse.

1andrew1

02-06-2025 20:56

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36197529)

Does the fact that we've left the EU make it any easier or harder to resolve this problem?

See https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1335

OLD BOY

02-06-2025 21:01

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36197529)

Does the fact that we've left the EU make it any easier or harder to resolve this problem?

Leaving the EU has ensured that we don’t have to accept their allocated quota of immigrants.

The ECHR is our main stumbling block, but we need to extract ourselves from all these old international conventions that prevent us from taking appropriate measures to control immigration. The Agreements may have seemed all right when originally drafted, but their meaning has been warped and twisted out of recognition through liberal court decisions over the years.

Hugh	02-06-2025 21:58

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36197534)

Leaving the EU has ensured that we don’t have to accept their allocated quota of immigrants.

The ECHR is our main stumbling block, but we need to extract ourselves from all these old international conventions that prevent us from taking appropriate measures to control immigration. The Agreements may have seemed all right when originally drafted, but their meaning has been warped and twisted out of recognition through liberal court decisions over the years.

Do you mean the quota that Cameron opted out of whilst in the EU?

Paul	04-06-2025 19:50

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U-Turn time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czr8e5g5vp8o

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Changes to the winter fuel payment to allow more people to receive it will be in place this year, the chancellor has said.

Rachel Reeves said more people would qualify for the allowance "this winter", however details of the changes and who will be eligible remain unclear.

thenry

04-06-2025 19:58

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Why the uproar. It was to be means tested so those vulnerable would be protected.

Russ	04-06-2025 20:05

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36197614)

U-Turn time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czr8e5g5vp8o

A u-turn would be a complete reversal (see: Tories allowing free school dinners after intervention from Marcus Rashford). This seems to me more of a lowering of the threshold in response to public backlash. Similar, but not the same.

1andrew1

04-06-2025 20:19

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Whatever you call it, is a bad misjudgment by Starmer that's lost him a lot of goodwill and votes.

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