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Damien 17-10-2019 07:30
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I don’t see how the DUP rejecting everything is in the long term interests of the union. Northern Ireland now has a way out of the backstop and they’re still not happy because they don’t have a veto themselves.

GrimUpNorth 17-10-2019 07:46
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36014170)
I don’t see how the DUP rejecting everything is in the long term interests of the union. Northern Ireland now has a way out of the backstop and they’re still not happy because they don’t have a veto themselves.
They're being difficult because they know the more they dig their heels in now the quicker the magic money tree will grow another branch or two - like everyone else they realise as soon as there's a general election they'll be kicked in to the grass if the Conservatives win an overall majority. You can't blame them.

denphone 17-10-2019 07:48
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36014171)
They're being difficult because they know the more they dig their heels in now the quicker the magic money tree will grow another branch or two - like everyone else they realise as soon as there's a general election they'll be kicked in to the grass if the Conservatives win an overall majority. You can't blame them.
It is worth remembering DUP did not support the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement and we all know what happened there.

1andrew1 17-10-2019 07:52
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Surely it's now Brexit extension and election? The DUP have pushed their luck too far.

denphone 17-10-2019 07:57
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Surely it's now Brexit extension and election? The DUP have pushed their luck too far.
But Boris Johnson said he would rather "die in a ditch" then ask for another extension.

Pierre 17-10-2019 08:01
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Surely it's now Brexit extension and election? The DUP have pushed their luck too far.
It’s not over ‘til it’s over.

jfman 17-10-2019 09:32
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But Boris Johnson said he would rather "die in a ditch" then ask for another extension.
He's got a strong hand though to extend. He's arguably proven the "he's not interested in a deal" doubters wrong.

"Back me. We leave. With a deal. I've literally shook hands with Barnier and Tusk on it. Let's get Brexit done."

More time is required to get the legislation in place anyway.

Hugh 17-10-2019 09:34
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He's got a strong hand though to extend. He's arguably proven the "he's not interested in a deal" doubters wrong.

"Back me. We leave. With a deal. I've literally shook hands with Barnier and Tusk on it. Let's get Brexit done."

More time is required to get the legislation in place anyway.
But it’s a deal worse than the one he resigned over, and voted against?

(Allegedly- it’s on the news now that the EU member states haven’t seen it yet, and it’s hundreds of pages long, which will need checking).

Pierre 17-10-2019 09:36
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But it’s a deal worse than the one he resigned over, and voted against?
How so? have you seen it?

Hugh 17-10-2019 09:37
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Just on what been reported - updated whilst you were posting.

jfman 17-10-2019 10:46
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36014180)
But it’s a deal worse than the one he resigned over, and voted against?

(Allegedly- it’s on the news now that the EU member states haven’t seen it yet, and it’s hundreds of pages long, which will need checking).
The public at large in a general election arguably won't care for the detail on that level. I'm sure he can find a way to spin that it's a better deal, allows Britain to move on but respect the GFA.

---------- Post added at 10:46 ---------- Previous post was at 09:58 ----------

We have a deal. Over to Parliament...

pip08456 17-10-2019 10:49
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Boris Johnson
‏Verified account @BorisJohnson
13m13 minutes ago

We’ve got a great new deal that takes back control — now Parliament should get Brexit done on Saturday so we can move on to other priorities like the cost of living, the NHS, violent crime and our environment

Damien 17-10-2019 11:33
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DUP still haven’t approved it so No 10 are piling the pressure on

denphone 17-10-2019 11:37
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Here is the text of the new Brexit agreement.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...rn_ireland.pdf

Pierre 17-10-2019 11:41
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Here is the text of the new Brexit agreement.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...rn_ireland.pdf
well I for one cannot be arsed to read it.


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