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Media Boy UK 18-07-2019 17:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003269)
The OFCOM thing only needs Alba/S4C in Top 24, and probably only in their relevant markets. If 108 is empty in Wales, because 101 is HD (can someone in Wales confirm), that solves one of them. The table for OFCOM didn't mention BBC Scotland Channel so they must be OK with it being in 160s in rest of UK.
RXTVLog Reports:

Quote:
Welsh language broadcaster S4C will have to be given a higher slot on Virgin Media's UK-wide channel list by January 2021, so that it appears among the first 24 slots on the channel list.
Gaelic service BBC Alba will need to be found a higher slot on Virgin by 2021, so that it can be seen in the top 24 slots
https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/how-...-you-find.html

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FYI: BBC One Wales HD is on Virgin Channel 101 in Wales.

jfman 18-07-2019 17:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003240)
I cannot read minds, jfman. I merely stated that Virgin Media, being second only to Sky in terms of the number of subscribers on pay tv platforms, was correctly described as a major tv platform. BT, of course, comes in as a poor third.

If we do get SA programming through on demand, that would suit me fine, and would be a similar sort of arrangement as BT, but through box sets instead of a separate streaming service.

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E!HD will be in there and this is confirmed in Virgin's press release. Sky Racing HD must be considered as a possibility although not specifically mentioned. I doubt we will get any +1 channels but cannot rule it out.
Ah we might get Sky Atlantic content on demand line. I remember that from carriage agreements past. Is there any room for anyone else to clutch on the end of that straw?

denphone 18-07-2019 17:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003275)
Ah we might get Sky Atlantic content on demand line. I remember that from carriage agreements past. Is there any room for anyone else to clutch on the end of that straw?
l somehow doubt it personally.

cheekyangus 18-07-2019 18:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36003272)
RXTVLog Reports:



https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/how-...-you-find.html

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FYI: BBC One Wales HD is on Virgin Channel 101 in Wales.
Thanks for the BBC1 Wales confirmation.

My point still stands.

Here is the RXTVlog tweet with a photo of the OFCOM table
https://twitter.com/RXTVlog/status/1148500499261509632

I draw your attention to the Impact On EPGs column.

There are only two mentions of Virgin Media in the table position covering four channels.

OFCOM only mention S4C and BBC Alba in the whole table in regards to Virgin Media. There is no reference to the BBC Scotland Channel. If they wanted the changes to mean all UK regions get all the regional services they would have said BBC Scotland Channel should be lower down on Virgin Media too, since it's on 162 in the rest of the UK. OFCOM not mentioning it suggests they are fine with it being on 162, and outwith the Top 24 for regions other than Scotland, where it is well within the Top 24 at 108.

If, for instance, Sky Basics services HD swapped and shuffled some services down, the current Sky 2, Sky Arts and Pick TV slots lay within the Top 24 and would satisfy the new OFCOM rules. I'm basically suggesting 109/110 won't need to be given over to Alba/S4C because of these OFCOM required changes.

Itshim 18-07-2019 18:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003269)
The OFCOM thing only needs Alba/S4C in Top 24, and probably only in their relevant markets. If 108 is empty in Wales, because 101 is HD (can someone in Wales confirm), that solves one of them. The table for OFCOM didn't mention BBC Scotland Channel so they must be OK with it being in 160s in rest of UK.
108 is not used in Wales .hope this answers your point .

cheekyangus 18-07-2019 18:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36003291)
108 is not used in Wales .hope this answers your point .
Yes. Thanks. :)

Joedm45 18-07-2019 22:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36003226)
CDkeys is very good for Nowtv entertainment vouchers often they have 5 months for £22. https://www.cdkeys.com/top-up-cards/...t-5-month-pass
Thanks for the link, I'll give that a go when my current voucher runs out

Media Boy UK 18-07-2019 22:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003290)
Thanks for the BBC1 Wales confirmation.

My point still stands.

Here is the RXTVlog tweet with a photo of the OFCOM table
https://twitter.com/RXTVlog/status/1148500499261509632

I draw your attention to the Impact On EPGs column.

There are only two mentions of Virgin Media in the table position covering four channels.

OFCOM only mention S4C and BBC Alba in the whole table in regards to Virgin Media. There is no reference to the BBC Scotland Channel. If they wanted the changes to mean all UK regions get all the regional services they would have said BBC Scotland Channel should be lower down on Virgin Media too, since it's on 162 in the rest of the UK. OFCOM not mentioning it suggests they are fine with it being on 162, and outwith the Top 24 for regions other than Scotland, where it is well within the Top 24 at 108.

If, for instance, Sky Basics services HD swapped and shuffled some services down, the current Sky 2, Sky Arts and Pick TV slots lay within the Top 24 and would satisfy the new OFCOM rules. I'm basically suggesting 109/110 won't need to be given over to Alba/S4C because of these OFCOM required changes.
I was only on about BBC ALBA and S4C I did not even post anyway today about the BBC Scotland Channel (Outside Scotland) being moved to the top 24 slots by 2021.

Due to Takeovers so far in 2019 Media Boy HQ now think we will hear of new Virgin Media UK deals with Discovery and Disney soon.

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Virgin Media has started an Red Button channel (Like YouTube) test for Prime Video ahead of it launch on Monday.

muppetman11 18-07-2019 23:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Virgin Press release on today's announcement.

https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...d-the-industry

Mad Max 18-07-2019 23:32
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 36003215)
Deals are getting more difficult these days since they managed to get eBay/Amazon to remove cheap voucher listings.

Although what really makes me laugh is the £10 2 month entertainment passes that are sold in supermarkets, better than paying £7.99 a month on the credit card.

That's what I do anyway
I'm getting the entertainment package for £3.49 per month....:D

cheekyangus 19-07-2019 00:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36003312)
I was only on about BBC ALBA and S4C I did not even post anyway today about the BBC Scotland Channel (Outside Scotland) being moved to the top 24 slots by 2021.

Due to Takeovers so far in 2019 Media Boy HQ now think we will hear of new Virgin Media UK deals with Discovery and Disney soon.

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Virgin Media has started an Red Button channel (Like YouTube) test for Prime Video ahead of it launch on Monday.
I know you hadn't mentioned BBC Scotland Channel today, I was using it as an example of how OFCOM were clearly happy with the dual number solution on VM (since they didn't mention it) and that a similar solution would mean a drastic upheaval wouldn't be required to accommodate it.

denphone 19-07-2019 04:43
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36003317)
I'm getting the entertainment package for £3.49 per month....:D
You can get it for less then that when you tell them you are cancelling.:D

Tricky Trevor 19-07-2019 07:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I see that Amazon Prime video will launch on Monday

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...29-fullhouse-A

OLD BOY 19-07-2019 07:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003275)
Ah we might get Sky Atlantic content on demand line. I remember that from carriage agreements past. Is there any room for anyone else to clutch on the end of that straw?
Yes, might. I wouldn't put it any stronger than that. The press release says:

An expanded catalogue of boxsets from Sky’s hit TV shows such as Jamestown, The Reluctant Landlord and the forthcoming comedy Brassic.

Increased on demand rights meaning that customers can delve deeper into Sky’s collection of films, shows and sports events

I just wonder what they mean by 'an expanded catalogue of box sets' and what 'delve deeper into Sky's collection' means. We already have access to the shows on Sky One, Sky Witness and Sky Arts, so what is this other material?

I notice that when they give examples of the kind of shows they mean, those examples are all Sky One shows, so I won't hold my breath.

jfman 19-07-2019 08:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
If Virgin Media were getting any Sky Atlantic content we wouldn't be debating ambiguous phrasing of press releases.

Virgin would be shouting it from the rooftops. The greatest combined phone, broadband, TV and mobile package the world has ever seen - £99 a month including Sky Atlantic, BT Sport...

Sky needs to have something to differentiate it's product from Virgin because like for like the Virgin package is far superior at almost every price point.


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