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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.

Sky and VM need each other. More VM needs Sky admittedly, but for Sky, VM = 3.7 million potential customers to sell TV wholesale / premium content to.

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More to the point, the continued presence of a profitable pay TV company keeps the competition regulator at bay. Virgin customers might want Sky channels, but Virgin is very important for Sky, and not really because of its customer base.

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35534542)

Virgin are SKY's biggest customer. Imagine how much Virgin pay SKY annually for their channels and on demand content. SKY need Virgin, Virgin need SKY.

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Virgin are Sky's biggest single customer, but offer Sky less than half the customer base that Sky have on their own. Without Virgin you could argue that Sky would probably be supplying those customers directly, and not at wholesale prices either, but then ofcom would be having something to say.

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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35534226)

Not allowed by content providers, however a cloud solution linked to your account number is.

I don't see why not when it still needs the card for playback.

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Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35534344)

I wonder why Boxnation was happy to be on extra add on channel and Premier Sports wanted to be on XL pack, I suppose XL would have given them a much bigger income?

Probably something to do with the people involved in running Premier Sports are the same people involved with Setanta. They probably just wanted the old deal back but without having the old content.

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35534626)

I don't see why not when it still needs the card for playback.

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Probably something to do with the people involved in running Premier Sports are the same people involved with Setanta. They probably just wanted the old deal back but without having the old content.

It's something to do with content providers not wanting anyone to be able to record something and then give the content to someone else to watch via their PVC I think, whereas by storing in the cloud you will have content linked to your account so only you can access it.

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35534626)

I don't see why not when it still needs the card for playback.

On VM boxes the card is used during recording, not playback (apart from Sky channels where it is used for both).

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35534385)

Seriously that's what we have to look forward to,got to be a joke :(

Well CSC Media did launch POP, Tiny Pop and True Movies on Virgin in October 2007.

And following it up in March 2011 with POP being removed for True Entertainment to launch.

So if Virgin Media has sign an two year deal it up at the end of this month.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35534133)

Perhaps MB can answer that one.

Last deal was signed in August 2010 for Comedy Central HD to launch that next month.

So maybe the deal will be up in August 2013?

http://vmhd.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/c...on-virgin.html

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Can anyone tell me when the deals for WRN Radio and RTE Radio are up as they are the only Ex-Telewest areas channels left.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35534269)

Indeed, but it doesn't help. If your TV failed, you'd lose your content. If your hard drive failed, you'd lose your content.

A few years ago Scientific-Atlanta offered a PVR with a built-in DVD writer that would write encrypted DVDs only it could play back. AFAIK they didn't sell any.

If your TiVo failed or the hard drive in it failed then you loose your content, i'm afraid cloud shouldn't be the way to go for any ones personal back up, servers go down and networks become congested, The P in pvr stands for Personal, cloud relys on lots of other permitations. As for Scientific Atlanta, yeah they are a big name brand, with lots of High street clout, did they try to push these via currys or comet? I bet if Sony or Panasonic had done the same thing it might have been a different story, oh wait they did with VR Recording, a recording that couldn't be re-copied.

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35534479)

Was' nt a nine year deal to carry Sky's non premium channels signed as part of the deal to sell VM TV channels to sky a few years ago. So I cannot see them going anywhere soon.

But deals can be re-signed at anytime I mean:

In November 2008 Virgin Media signs an deal with Sky for both to carry the Sky Basic Channels on Virgin and for Sky to carry Virgin Media Channels on Astra until June 2011.

But Virgin Media sign an new 9 year deal in June 2010 when Virgin Media sold their channels to Sky.

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35534671)

If your TiVo failed or the hard drive in it failed then you loose your content

I know, I was just pointing out making the drive removable doesn't help. In fact it makes your chances of losing content are slightly higher as there is more hardaware to go wrong (plus the risk of kids pulling out the drive and losing/dropping/smearing with marmite etc)

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35534671)

As for Scientific Atlanta, yeah they are a big name brand, with lots of High street clout, did they try to push these via currys or comet?

Would you really want a shelf-full of unplayable DVDs? Losing a hard drive is bad enough.

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February List update again.

Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin TV network.

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this list is subject to change.

Colours on my list are as followed:

Media Boy = New Info just added.
Media Boy = Virgin Media News and links.
Media Boy = Other Media news/Things.

=== Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV ===
=== Freeviews on Virgin TV ===
Feb. 1st. All Virgin Media customers on the M+, L or XL Packages can watch Picture Box absolutely free on Virgin on Demand until 6am on March 1st 2013.

=== February ===
11th. Sky Movies Showcase will be rebranded as Sky Movies Oscars on Virgin Channel 403.
11th. Sky Movies Showcase HD will be rebranded as Sky Movies Oscars HD on Virgin Channel 433.
12th. Quest +1 will launch on Virgin Channel 173 on the M+ Pack today.
12th. Investigation Discovery will launch on Virgin Channel 224 on the M+ Pack today.
12th. British Eurosport 2 HD will launch on Virgin Channel 526 on the XL Pack today.
25th. Sky Movies Oscars will be rebranded as Sky Movies Showcase on Virgin Channel 403.
25th. Sky Movies Oscars HD will be rebranded as Sky Movies Showcase HD on Virgin Channel 403.
-Virgin Media has signed new broadcasting deal with Discovery so we will get the following channel this month:

-Animal Planet HD On Channel 217.

=== March ===
28th. Disney Cinemagic will close today on Virgin Channel 728.

=== April ===
The BBC will rebrand BBC HD as BBC Two HD sometime this month on Virgin Channel 187.

=== May ===
No News...

=== June ===
No News...

=== By end of June ===
-Liberty Global hope to close the transaction of Virgin Media.

=== July ===
No News...

=== Summer ===
-BT hope to launch an new Football Channel on Virgin Media.

=== August ===
No News...

=== September ===
No News...

=== October ===
No News...

=== November ===
No News...

=== December ===
No News...

=== By 2015 ===
-RTE Radio and WRN Radio will be axe in old Telewest areas or added to all areas of Virgin Media.

=== Unknown dates ===
-'Seven' will be rebranded as Lincolnshire Living on Virgin Channel 879 (Grimsby & Scunthorpe only).
-I have been told that Virgin Media are in talks with Sky to carry 'Sky Atlantic SD', 'Sky News HD' and 'Sky Sports News HD'.
-Local TV may launch on Virgin TV in some areas in Virgin Channels 600 mark (Starting in July 2013).
-The BBC to axe BBC Radio 4 LW on Virgin Channel 911 ''in the long term''.
-Discovery to replace Travel and Living with TLC on Virgin Channel 275.
-UKTV on Demand may also launch on Virgin on Demand.
-Channel 4's ''4oD'' will offer HD content.
-Smooth fm (Smooth Radio) may get close or rebranded on Virgin Channel 916.
-Fashion One 'In talks with Virgin Media'.
-ITV2 HD, ITV3 HD, ITV4 HD and Sony Movies may all launch soon on Virgin Media.

=== Channels THAT still to appear in all areas ===
List was last updated on December 1st 2010.

NO. Channel Name
917. Radio: RTE Radio
920. Radio: WRN Europe

NOTE: Channels are only broadcasting in Ex-Telewest areas right now.

=== Media Boy Extra info: ===
Media Boy Blog - For all things Virgin TV - http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/
See Virgin Media on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia
See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/
Latest news on Freeview - http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10...l#post35353580

=== Ask Media Boy ===
Last updated March 9th 2012.

Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM?
A: I get all my info from Virgin Media viewers and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site).

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''RTE RADIO'' OR ''WRN RADIO'' FOR?
A: RTE Radio and WRN Radio do not broadcast in Ex-ntl and Ex-Cable & Wireless areas - yet.

==== Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters ===
List last updated on February 10th 2013.

Welcome to the all new look of this part of the list.

When deals with broadcasters run out Virgin Media need to sign new one to keep that Channel on Virgin TV.
Here is an list of channel that Virgin may get when they old deal runs out with that broadcaster:
Also Radio channels are broadcasting on Digital Radio via Freesat, Freeview, Freesat from Sky or Sky.

NOTE: Shopping Channels are not on this list and only Broadcasts who has got some Channels broadcasting on Virgin Media right now appeared on this list. To start broadcasting soon = That channel has still to start broadcasting on Sky, Freesat or Freeview.

=== TV and Radio Channels: ===
=== Own by A+E Networks UK (A&E Television Networks/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Bio. +1
-Crime & Investigation Network HD
-Crime & Investigation Network +1
-HISTORY HD
-HISTORY +1
-Lifetime (May launch in 2013.)

=== Own by ARY Group ===
-ARY Qtv
-ARY Oneworld
-ARY Entertainment

=== Own by BET International Inc (Viacom) ===
-BET: Black Ent Tv
-BET: Black Ent Tv +1

=== Own by British Sky Broadcasting ===
-Pick TV +1
-Sky1 +1
-Sky 3D
-Sky Atlantic
-Sky Atlantic +1
-Sky Atlantic HD
-Sky News HD
-Sky Sports F1 HD
-Sky Sports 3 HD
-Sky Sports 4 HD
-Sky Sports News HD

=== Own by British Telecommunications Plc ===
-BT Sports 1 (To launch in UK and Ireland in Summer 2013.)
-BT Sports 1 HD (To launch in UK and Ireland in Summer 2013.)
-BT Sports 2 (To launch in UK and Ireland in Summer 2013.)
-BT Sports 2 HD (To launch in UK and Ireland in Summer 2013.)
-Sailing 1
-Sailing 2

=== Own by CBS Chellozone UK Channels Partnership ===
-CBS Reality +1
-Horror +1

=== Own by Channel Four Television Corporation ===
-More 4 HD

=== Own by CSC Media Group ===
-Bliss
-BuzMuzik
-Chart Show TV
-Chart Show TV Dance
-Flava
-Kix!
-POP
-Pop Girl
-Pop Girl +1
-Scuzz
-The Vault
-Tiny Pop +1

=== Own by Discovery Networks Western Europe ===
-Discovery 3D (May launch if audience viewing numbers are high via on Demand.)
-DMAX +2

=== Own by Disney-ABC Television Group ===
-Disney Channel HD
-Disney Cinemagic HD - Channel to close on March 28th.
-Disney Cinemagic +1 - Channel to close on March 28th.
-Disney Junior +
-Disney XD HD

=== Own by Entertainment Networks (UK) Limited (Sony Pictures Television) ===
-More Than Movies
-More Than Movies +1
-Movies 4 Men
-Movies 4 Men +1

=== Own by ESPN Inc. (The Walt Disney Company/Hearst Corporation) ===
-ESPN America HD

=== Own by Fox International Channels (News Corporation) ===
-FOX +1

=== Own by Global Radio ===
-Capital FM TV
-Heart FM TV

=== Own by ITV Digital Channels Ltd (ITV plc) ===
-ITV2 HD
-ITV3 HD
-ITV4 HD

=== Own by Moving Movies Ltd. (CSC Media Group) ===
-True Movies 2

=== Own by MTV Networks Europe ===
-MTV CLASSIC
-MTV HD
-MTV LIVE
-MTV MUSIC
-MTV +1

=== Own by Multi Screen Media (Sony Pictures Television) ===
-Sahara One

=== Own by NGC-UK Partnership (National Geographic Society/Fox International Channels) ===
-Nat Wild HD

=== Own by Nickelodeon UK (MTV Networks Europe/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Nickelodeon HD
-Nick Jr. +1

=== Own by Paramount UK Partnership (Paramount British Pictures/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Comedy Central Extra +1

=== Own by Premier Media ===
-Premier Sports
-Premier Sports Xtra

=== Own by Radio TelefÃ*s Ã‰ireann ===
-RTÃ‰ 2fm
-RTÃ‰ lyric fm
-RTÃ‰ Radio 1 (Broadcasts in Ex-Telewest areas right now).
-RTÃ‰ RaidiÃ³ na Gaeltachta

=== Own by Real & Smooth Ltd [Was GMG Radio] (Global Radio) ===
-Real Radio Wales
-Smooth 70s

=== Own by Scripps Networks Interactive ===
-Food Network
-Food Network +1
-Travel Channel
-Travel Channel +1

=== Own by Sony Pictures Television ===
-Sony Entertainment Television +1
-Sony Movie Channel
-Sony Movie Channel +1

=== Own by STAR TV (News Corporation) ===
-STAR Jalsha
-STAR Plus HD

=== Own by Sunrise Radio Group ===
-Kismat Radio
-Punjabi Radio

=== Own by TIML Radio Limited ===
-Absolute 90s

=== Own by United Christian Broadcasters ===
-UCB TV
-UCB Bible
-UCB Gospel
-UCB Inspiration
-UCB Ireland

=== Own by Universal Networks International ===
-E! HD
-The Style Network
-Universal Channel HD

=== Own by Zee Entertainment Enterprises ===
-ZEE CafÃ©
-Zing

==== See you later ===
List last updated on February 10th 2013.

Next update: March - unless:
A) If Virgin are set to launch more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) on Virgin TV.
B) If Virgin are set to move more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) about on Virgin TV.
C) If Virgin are set to close or repackage more then TWO channels (TV or Radio ) on Virgin TV.

Did I miss anything??? If I did tell me and it will appear on the next update.

Â©copyright 2013 Media Boy 2006 - 2013. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35533711)

There has been some speculation over at TV Forum about what is coming soon.

http://www.tvforum.co.uk/thenewsroom...27695/page-540

http://www.tvforum.co.uk/thenewsroom...27695/page-541

There is a suggestion that the main TV bulletins at 1 o'clock, 6 o'clock and 10 o'clock will be in HD from early March. The BBC News channel will launch in HD a few weeks later.

Reported sources for this information is a leaked Powerpoint presentation plus Tweets from BBC employees.

It wouldn't surprise me if VM were suddenly offered Sky News HD as a result of this.

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35533715)

Guess that is what the BBC are using the (current) spare Freeview HD slot for then.

It makes sense if they cannot sell it, cost effective too as the HD infrastructure is already in place and there will be no rights issues.

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35534303)

Liberty Global (can I call them LG?) have no intention of changing VM's current relationship with Sky, who I'm sure would want to keep the HD versions of SS3, SS4 and SSF1 as unique selling points to potential Sky customers.

What might change is LG's ability to bid for content on a European basis - even then, the existing contracts for that content would have to expire, and I imagine that most of the 'good' ones are currently held by Sky.

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Cloud PVRs are the future. One would hope that any long-term content deals that VM are considering/signing would take that into account. We don't want another MRS-style scenario where only a handful of channels can be recorded into the cloud.

Indeed, we may see VM owning some of it's own channels again under the ownership of LGI.

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35534385)

Seriously that's what we have to look forward to,got to be a joke :(

Couldn't agree more mate, absolute trash!

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35534662)

Also Virgin did remove 27 SD Channels* and 28 HD Channels* plus an unknown channel on Tuesday night from Total Channels.

*The extra Sports channels that The BBC and Channel 4 did broadcast over July to September 2012 plus Eurosport 3D.

So base on that Virgin Media look set to reuse them and launch more new channels over the coming months.