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Yes, especially when they're not quoted properly.

I asked the specific question later. it was a 2 part question, as a yes or a no can't cover both.

ok I'll be more specific. are you sorry that she has been force fed God from birth.

You both answered no to that one at first.

and that she thinks that unless she has God in her life she will go to hell?

Russ later confirmed that he believes that too.

You haven't. but I know that from experience Russ speaks for you anyway :D

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i think that's check ..

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1:- No.... it is wrong to deprive a child of vital nutrition.
2:- Yes .... it's the law and the law 'exists'.

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*pulls up chair* ;)

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The parents also make sure the child has adequate multivitamin supplements. The child's diet is perfectly healthy. Are the parents brainwashing their child?

Really? Are you sure you've not simply been brainwashed by the State into behaving the way it wants you to?

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Love your logic - because I didn't answer the question you asked after I provided the answer (I answered in 1261, you asked the revised expanded question in 1262), I am in the wrong?:confused: You then said in your post #1327
that I had just answered it for the first time in my post #1325.

And on the Hell issue, once again you are mistaken - Russ does not speak for me, as we are from quite different wings of the Christian Church, and have vastly differing views on quite a number of religious issues. Once more, your propensity for sweeping generalisations and mistaking opinion for fact has led you down the wrong path. ;)

I do not believe that people who do not have faith in their life go to Hell - the young lady and her father may, I don't. (sorry for not living down to your preconception).
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I have removed a few more posts.

The topic is "The Existence of God"

This thread is not about how people bring up their children - or how they educate them.

After 90 pages Im really wondering if anything more useful can even be said, so if this drifts off topic again it will simply get closed.

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I don't think there is a god. I'm not sure if this should be defined as not believing. I seem to find myself getting frustrated with one of my children becoming encouraged to attend church by someone close to her. I respect the person and their belief/religion if that's what they want, but I can't help getting annoyed when they try to force it upon my daughter. At times, I will go as far as ranting about it to my partner as it really does get to me. She has come to me and asked me about God and "when he made the world...". It's hard to know what to do in such situations with young children, but you can only do what you think is best. For me, I think I would rather see my children grow up being very much excluded from any religous beliefs, because I personally feel it is a waste of time and provides only confusion and an unrealistic picture of life, which will only hamper addressing real issues such as scientific ones that are just put down to "god made it" / "god does it" etc.

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I don't see anything wrong with exposure to religion, but you're right, forcing it is another thing. I don't take my daughter to church, but she knows about God and Jesus and the christian festivals, etc. I won't hide it from her, but I also won't force any ideas on her either. She'll make up her own mind when she is old enough to create a balanced view.

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What do you define as 'forcing it' on children? I bring my daughter up as a Christian, is that forcing it? What are the positives and negatives of what you call 'forcing'?

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when I was younger, I was made to go to church each and every sunday. I don't think that is right. and I think I'm in a sound position hold air that view being I was made to go, regardless of whether I told my parents I didn't like it, not believe in what the church was telling me.

Being made aware of religion, yes. but it can be done in many other ways than that.

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I did not like it either when my parents draged me to church, however did me no harm.

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Ok, that's a valid viewpoint.

I take my daughter along every sunday, she enjoys it as she's never complained or refused to go. As long as I am responsible for her, she'll come with me (she doesn't have much choice, I'm not leaving an almost-6 year olf on her own). I'm more than happy for her to learn about other religions at school.

Am I forcing it on her?

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I wasn't forced to go. there was me, brother and 2 sisters.
I think we were encouraged to go to leave Mother and Father to be alone from us for an hour or so. they weren't bothered when we just grew out of bothering to go anymore.