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Gavin-D 15-01-2019 08:53
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Quote:
BT has introduced new terms and conditions that will affect how price increases are made to home phone, broadband and mobile customers.

From the beginning of 2020, BT price rises will be linked to the CPI rate of inflation. BT customers will have their prices increased in March based on the CPI recorded in January.

A BT spokesperson confirmed the CPI-based price rise would also affect extra charges such as out of allowance calling costs and optional add-ons as well as the normal monthly charges for landline, broadband and mobile services.

At the same time, the company said there wouldn't be any increases to home phone, broadband or mobile plan prices in 2019, although BT has remained tight-lipped over possible price changes for its TV service, which this year will see additional content from Sky being added.
https://www.a516digital.com/2019/01/...mechanism.html

OLD BOY 15-01-2019 19:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35978657)
I think a "sport netflix" won't really work. i don't want to turn on my ps4, my ipad or my computer to watch a live football game. I'll watch netflix in bed before I sleep but its hardly the same watching live football in bed... You watch football matches with other people and unless you have a smart tv in your sitting room how the heck are you meant to watch it?

"oh ill switch my ps4 on....or buy an apple tv device and play it on my ipad and ping it across..."

Not many people will

1) be aware of the entire process to do this
2) be arsed to actually do all this just to watch spanish football

The sooner the channel goes out of existence and sky and BT feast on the rotten corpse the better. Like a lion devouring a foolish naive zebra who wandered into dangerous territory. Lets hope its any day now!
But surely, you wouldn't have to use your PS4 to watch streamed sports programmes. You would simply access this through your satellite or cable system. Those without pay tv would be able to access directly through their smart TVs.

I don't think there will be a 'Netflix of sports services' - the trend seems to be different sports on different streaming services. However, I could be proved wrong. Disney + when it's launched may surprise us. That would certainly be better for the punters as it should be cheaper.

Raider999 15-01-2019 20:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979404)
But surely, you wouldn't have to use your PS4 to watch streamed sports programmes. You would simply access this through your satellite or cable system. Those without pay tv would be able to access directly through their smart TVs.

I don't think there will be a 'Netflix of sports services' - the trend seems to be different sports on different streaming services. However, I could be proved wrong. Disney + when it's launched may surprise us. That would certainly be better for the punters as it should be cheaper.

Good to see you are now admitting that streaming will not be cheap for sports fans.

Also when you say linear systems are dying, streaming taking over, how can you watch anything through your cable/satellite provider - surely you would have discontinued your subscription?:confused:

vincerooney 15-01-2019 23:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979404)
But surely, you wouldn't have to use your PS4 to watch streamed sports programmes. You would simply access this through your satellite or cable system. Those without pay tv would be able to access directly through their smart TVs.

I don't think there will be a 'Netflix of sports services' - the trend seems to be different sports on different streaming services. However, I could be proved wrong. Disney + when it's launched may surprise us. That would certainly be better for the punters as it should be cheaper.
Well it depends on how I would access the streaming product. For example if its like netflix on the tivo it would work. But will companies like virgin really open the gates to allow such products through their boxes? We have a tivo available to run these type of apps but we've only got netflix. No amazon or other streaming services really. So either

1) the service provider is cheap and doesn't want to add the app i.e. virgin media are cheapskates
2) amazon etc don't want to create the app for closed systems etc

"ah its 5.15pm i better switch on my ps4 and then wait. click tv. wait for it to load for the sporting treat to load..."

Seems cumbersome for sport but fine for box sets of tv treats currently. Even clicking through a smart tv just sounds odd for a live sporting event. Tv- apps- scroll to provider- wait for it to load....i just want to click 501 instantly

OLD BOY 16-01-2019 09:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35979454)
Well it depends on how I would access the streaming product. For example if its like netflix on the tivo it would work. But will companies like virgin really open the gates to allow such products through their boxes? We have a tivo available to run these type of apps but we've only got netflix. No amazon or other streaming services really. So either

1) the service provider is cheap and doesn't want to add the app i.e. virgin media are cheapskates
2) amazon etc don't want to create the app for closed systems etc

"ah its 5.15pm i better switch on my ps4 and then wait. click tv. wait for it to load for the sporting treat to load..."

Seems cumbersome for sport but fine for box sets of tv treats currently. Even clicking through a smart tv just sounds odd for a live sporting event. Tv- apps- scroll to provider- wait for it to load....i just want to click 501 instantly
The way I see it, the streaming services will replace TV channels. Sky, Virgin and BT ultimately will be providing packages of streaming services instead of channels. Don't forget Starzplay has also been added recently, although it has gone to the 'on demand' section rather than the apps for some reason.

There was a reason why Amazon did not appear on Virgin following initialnegotiations, but I suspect this will change now that BT have it. You can bet your bottom dollar that Sky will have this on their platform before long.

I can understand the frustration of waiting for apps to load on the old Tivo, but on the V6, you go straight in. It's not much different to having to select the channel you want when you switch on the TV.

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35979425)
Good to see you are now admitting that streaming will not be cheap for sports fans.

Also when you say linear systems are dying, streaming taking over, how can you watch anything through your cable/satellite provider - surely you would have discontinued your subscription?:confused:
I have never said sport will be cheap, but I do think it may well become cheaper with time.

As I said, we are most likely to have bundles of streaming services to choose from in the future, rather than bundles of channels. Liberty Global and Virgin Media have stated that they intend to be super-aggregators of content over time.

denphone 16-01-2019 09:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979479)

I have never said sport will be cheap, but I do think it may well become cheaper with time.
And hell will freeze over before that ever happens..

gba93 16-01-2019 09:53
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979479)
I have never said sport will be cheap, but I do think it may well become cheaper with time.
Ah, but cheaper to who?

telegramsam 16-01-2019 10:47
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In my opinion,for what it's worth,I think apps may well eventually replace linear channels but I doubt this will happen in my lifetime. As for sport being cheaper on apps that may start off like that but as sure as eggs are eggs the cost will rise and rise as it is with linear channels at present.

OLD BOY 16-01-2019 13:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35979493)
Ah, but cheaper to who?
Well, for a start, I would expect other players to do this differently from Sky. At the moment, for example, if you would be happy to watch your kind of sport occasionally, you have to subscribe to the full sports monty offered by Sky or BT. If a more limited amount of sport was also available for less, this would attract more subscribers. Just as the US telcos have adopted 'skinny bundles' to attract those who cannot or will not pay for a more comprehensive set of channels, the global beasts will be set on maximising income to keep prices low and may also offer loss leaders.

Sky has an attitude which means that it tries to draw everyone to its platform by denying content to others and bolstering prices to what the market can take. That will not necessarily be the same model used by streaming services, who can be expected to be more flexible to make lower prices possible.

There are different approaches to this that would benefit consumers as I have discussed before, which will concentrate on increasing viewers not only on their own platform but also by seeking alternative platforms to maximise income.

Raider999 16-01-2019 13:27
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979533)
Well, for a start, I would expect other players to do this differently from Sky. At the moment, for example, if you would be happy to watch your kind of sport occasionally, you have to subscribe to the full sports monty offered by Sky or BT. If a more limited amount of sport was also available for less, this would attract more subscribers. Just as the US telcos have adopted 'skinny bundles' to attract those who cannot or will not pay for a more comprehensive set of channels, the global beasts will be set on maximising income to keep prices low and may also offer loss leaders.

Sky has an attitude which means that it tries to draw everyone to its platform by denying content to others and bolstering prices to what the market can take. That will not necessarily be the same model used by streaming services, who can be expected to be more flexible to make lower prices possible.

There are different approaches to this that would benefit consumers as I have discussed before, which will concentrate on increasing viewers not only on their own platform but also by seeking alternative platforms to maximise income.
The trouble is people watch other sport to Premier League football.

I myself watch Rugby Union, Rugby League, Cricket regularly as well as golf, American football occasionally.

Being able to get my fill of these sports from 2 sources (BT and Sky) is the cheapest way when you consider the cost of streaming - Australian Rugby League was offered at over £20pm, imagine how much all these other sports would cost me at that rate?

I would have thought streamers would start low and increase subs when you are hooked or to apathetic to unsubscribe. So if £20pm for a part of one sport is cheap heaven I am glad I won't be around when linear channels disappear.

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The real problem with sky/VM is I have to pay a base subscription of over £20pm for the basic channels I never watch.

carravetta 16-01-2019 13:56
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According to TV Channel Lists, Eleven Sports could be testing 2 HD Channels on the Sky platform.

https://www.tvchannellists.com/Channels_testing_on_Sky

vincerooney 16-01-2019 16:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35979546)
According to TV Channel Lists, Eleven Sports could be testing 2 HD Channels on the Sky platform.

https://www.tvchannellists.com/Channels_testing_on_Sky
oh come on sky stay strong and don't let this happen. Lets bleed eleven sports into oblivion

muppetman11 16-01-2019 16:12
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35979573)
oh come on sky stay strong and don't let this happen. Lets bleed eleven sports into oblivion
Anyone can launch a channel onto the Sky EPG so long as they pay the relevant fees.

OLD BOY 16-01-2019 16:49
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35979535)
The real problem with sky/VM is I have to pay a base subscription of over £20pm for the basic channels I never watch.
That is certainly an issue that a lot of people have. You won't get that with the streaming services, though, and you won't have to enter into a contract either.

Mad Max 16-01-2019 16:52
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979579)
That is certainly an issue that a lot of people have. You won't get that with the streaming services, though, and you won't have to enter into a contract either.

Spot on.

denphone 16-01-2019 16:53
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979579)
That is certainly an issue that a lot of people have. You won't get that with the streaming services, though, and you won't have to enter into a contract either.
There is plenty of poor content that one does not want to watch on the streaming services OB and that is a clear unequivocal fact unless you closed your eyes did not notice it.

Mad Max 16-01-2019 16:55
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35979583)
There is plenty of poor content that one does not want to watch on the streaming services OB and that is a clear unequivocal fact unless you closed your eyes did not notice it.

There's more garbage on pay TV, Den, and that is a clear unequivocal fact, unless you closed your eyes did not notice it!

denphone 16-01-2019 16:58
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979585)
There's more garbage on pay TV, Den, and that is a clear unequivocal fact, unless you closed your eyes did not notice it!
l don't deny there is rubbish on pay TV MM but there is just as much rubbish on the streaming services and that is a clear unequivocal fact.:)

Mad Max 16-01-2019 16:59
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35979588)
l don't deny there is rubbish on pay TV MM but there is just as much rubbish on the streaming services and that is a clear unequivocal fact.:)

Do you watch any of the streaming services, Den?

denphone 16-01-2019 17:01
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979589)
Do you watch any of the streaming services, Den?
Our household does MM so l do have a little teeny weeny knowledge on these things.

muppetman11 16-01-2019 17:06
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979585)
There's more garbage on pay TV, Den, and that is a clear unequivocal fact, unless you closed your eyes did not notice it!
Half of what's on Netflix and Amazon is content that's already been on linear TV.

Mad Max 16-01-2019 17:09
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35979592)
Our household does MM so l do have a little teeny weeny knowledge on these things.

Well I think you'd probably find that there's a lot more better choice from the streaming services than there is from what's on offer from the pay TV providers, only my opinion of course, but I do use Amazon and Netflix a lot and find that the quality and choice is miles better.

denphone 16-01-2019 17:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979597)
Well I think you'd probably find that there's a lot more better choice from the streaming services than there is from what's on offer from the pay TV providers, only my opinion of course, but I do use Amazon and Netflix a lot and find that the quality and choice is miles better.
Well each to their own opinion MM.

Mad Max 16-01-2019 17:35
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35979595)
Half of what's on Netflix and Amazon is content that's already been on linear TV.
As much as half? I don't really know if that's the case, even if it is, there's still a lot of quality originals from both Amazon and Netflix.

denphone 16-01-2019 17:39
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979602)
As much as half? I don't really know if that's the case, even if it is, there's still a lot of quality originals from both Amazon and Netflix.
As there is on the linear TV channels.

muppetman11 16-01-2019 17:41
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979602)
As much as half? I don't really know if that's the case, even if it is, there's still a lot of quality originals from both Amazon and Netflix.
I don't disagree I subscribe to both , but let's face it both streaming and linear have great content they also both have their fair share of junk.

denphone 16-01-2019 17:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35979604)
I don't disagree I subscribe to both , but let's face it both streaming and linear have great content they also both have their fair share of junk.
+1

Mad Max 16-01-2019 18:07
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35979604)
I don't disagree I subscribe to both , but let's face it both streaming and linear have great content they also both have their fair share of junk.
I don't disagree with that, but imo Netflix and Amazon have more "great" content than what's on offer in linear.

Raider999 16-01-2019 19:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979597)
Well I think you'd probably find that there's a lot more better choice from the streaming services than there is from what's on offer from the pay TV providers, only my opinion of course, but I do use Amazon and Netflix a lot and find that the quality and choice is miles better.
As there is virtually no sport on streaming at present I wouldn't agree with that

muppetman11 16-01-2019 19:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979612)
I don't disagree with that, but imo Netflix and Amazon have more "great" content than what's on offer in linear.
I guess it's all personal preference , I watch Netflix and quite a few shows off Sky but rarely use Amazon.

Mad Max 16-01-2019 20:40
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35979628)
I guess it's all personal preference , I watch Netflix and quite a few shows off Sky but rarely use Amazon.
One of the best shows I have watched in a while, MM, is called "The Americans", it's on Amazon, and me and my wife have really enjoyed it, we are now on the third season, if you are into dramas you may want to give this one a try.

cheekyangus 16-01-2019 21:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979649)
One of the best shows I have watched in a while, MM, is called "The Americans", it's on Amazon, and me and my wife have really enjoyed it, we are now on the third season, if you are into dramas you may want to give this one a try.
Haven't seen that since it was on ITV/STV. And I didn't have ITV Encore so I missed what came next.

OLD BOY 17-01-2019 18:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35979595)
Half of what's on Netflix and Amazon is content that's already been on linear TV.
But a lot of people want that, MM. There needs to be something for everyone.

I have had no difficulty at all picking out what we want to see from Netflix and Amazon and these are all originals. So I don't begrudge having stuff on those services that I don't want to see. However, with pay TV channels, it is a right old chore trying to pick out the very few good programmes from all the junk.

That's why I say Netflix and Amazon are much better value for money and at a cheaper price.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979597)
Well I think you'd probably find that there's a lot more better choice from the streaming services than there is from what's on offer from the pay TV providers, only my opinion of course, but I do use Amazon and Netflix a lot and find that the quality and choice is miles better.
Most people do, Max. The only people I am aware of who disagree are the usual naysayers on this forum! I'm sure they are only denying what the rest of us know is true for the hell of it. :rolleyes:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35979602)
As much as half? I don't really know if that's the case, even if it is, there's still a lot of quality originals from both Amazon and Netflix.
It's nowhere near a half, but I certainly won't be counting them!

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35979627)
As there is virtually no sport on streaming at present I wouldn't agree with that
We're not talking about sport, Raider, we are talking about general entertainment such as TV series, films and documentaries.

We all agree that sport is a completely different kettle of fish.

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35979681)
Haven't seen that since it was on ITV/STV. And I didn't have ITV Encore so I missed what came next.
We've seen every series of The Americans and found the programme very enjoyable, but it's not to everyone's taste I guess.

telegramsam 17-01-2019 18:44
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As I have said before on here I personally find more than enough entertaining programs on terrestrial TV to keep me happy. In fact I sometimes can't find enough spare hours in the day to watch everything I've recorded. So I have no need to sub to Amazon or Netflix. I'm sure there's some good programs on there but what I don't see I don't miss. Also,I don't here any of my work colleagues talking about any programs on Netflix or Amazon.

Mad Max 17-01-2019 19:29
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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35979821)
As I have said before on here I personally find more than enough entertaining programs on terrestrial TV to keep me happy. In fact I sometimes can't find enough spare hours in the day to watch everything I've recorded. So I have no need to sub to Amazon or Netflix. I'm sure there's some good programs on there but what I don't see I don't miss. Also,I don't here any of my work colleagues talking about any programs on Netflix or Amazon.
They probably don't have them?

muppetman11 17-01-2019 19:33
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979812)
But a lot of people want that, MM. There needs to be something for everyone.

I have had no difficulty at all picking out what we want to see from Netflix and Amazon and these are all originals. So I don't begrudge having stuff on those services that I don't want to see. However, with pay TV channels, it is a right old chore trying to pick out the very few good programmes from all the junk.

That's why I say Netflix and Amazon are much better value for money and at a cheaper price.
I have no problems finding terrestrial linear and pay TV linear shows , my Q box either auto records returning series or makes it near damn impossible to miss all the key shows airing.
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979812)
t's nowhere near a half, but I certainly won't be counting them!
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/16/...rs-anime-films

Raider999 17-01-2019 22:15
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35979812)
But a lot of people want that, MM. There needs to be something for everyone.

I have had no difficulty at all picking out what we want to see from Netflix and Amazon and these are all originals. So I don't begrudge having stuff on those services that I don't want to see. However, with pay TV channels, it is a right old chore trying to pick out the very few good programmes from all the junk.

That's why I say Netflix and Amazon are much better value for money and at a cheaper price.

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Most people do, Max. The only people I am aware of who disagree are the usual naysayers on this forum! I'm sure they are only denying what the rest of us know is true for the hell of it. :rolleyes:

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It's nowhere near a half, but I certainly won't be counting them!

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We're not talking about sport, Raider, we are talking about general entertainment such as TV series, films and documentaries.

We all agree that sport is a completely different kettle of fish.

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We've seen every series of The Americans and found the programme very enjoyable, but it's not to everyone's taste I guess.
As this thread is entirely about sport why are people talking about general entertainment, films etc in this thread.

Keep that for all the other threads please!

OLD BOY 18-01-2019 08:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35979858)
As this thread is entirely about sport why are people talking about general entertainment, films etc in this thread.

Keep that for all the other threads please!
Yes, we do seem to have strayed away from concentrating on sport!

vincerooney 18-01-2019 21:26
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Any more news on eleven sports going out of business? I'm throwing a party if it happens.

denphone 18-01-2019 21:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35979943)
Any more news on eleven sports going out of business? I'm throwing a party if it happens.
Watch this space Vince l would say.

OLD BOY 19-01-2019 14:57
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35979943)
Any more news on eleven sports going out of business? I'm throwing a party if it happens.
Eleven Sports is more successful abroad, so I doubt it will go out of business. However, they will struggle to get a foothold in the UK without access to the major platforms and so I think they will probably shut down their UK operations at some point.

Raider999 19-01-2019 17:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35980028)
Eleven Sports is more successful abroad, so I doubt it will go out of business. However, they will struggle to get a foothold in the UK without access to the major platforms and so I think they will probably shut down their UK operations at some point.

Your Most intelligent post for ages OB.

As Eleven a Sports are established overseas it highlights how difficult it is for a streamer to break into the UK sports market

carravetta 19-01-2019 17:27
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35980040)
Your Most intelligent post for ages OB.

As Eleven a Sports are established overseas it highlights how difficult it is for a streamer to break into the UK sports market
Those with deep pockets will only succeed such as beIN Sports, the only reason ESPN UK shut down there operation was because of how much BT bid for the Premier League rights.

denphone 19-01-2019 17:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35980040)
Your Most intelligent post for ages OB.

As Eleven a Sports are established overseas it highlights how difficult it is for a streamer to break into the UK sports market
Which is a contradiction of his other posts he has posted.

ozsat 20-01-2019 09:56
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It looks like that added 1 and 1 and got 11. :)
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Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35979546)
According to TV Channel Lists, Eleven Sports could be testing 2 HD Channels on the Sky platform.

https://www.tvchannellists.com/Channels_testing_on_Sky

OLD BOY 20-01-2019 10:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35980045)
Which is a contradiction of his other posts he has posted.
No, it's not. My post was specifically about Eleven Sports.

Media Boy UK 20-01-2019 15:09
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I see that Premier Sports has done an deal with BT Sport to use BT Sport SPFL workers for Scottish Cup games on Premier Sports.

djs9750 20-01-2019 20:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35979943)
Any more news on eleven sports going out of business? I'm throwing a party if it happens.
The live games are not showing on the STV player tonight.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35980109)
I see that Premier Sports has done an deal with BT Sport to use BT Sport SPFL workers for Scottish Cup games on Premier Sports.
Looks like they are only going to show games involving the Old Firm so they can whistle.

ozsat 20-01-2019 20:33
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I'm sure the email I has from STV said Saturday and Monday night.
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Originally Posted by djs9750 (Post 35980146)
The live games are not showing on the STV player tonight.


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Found it - there were two games listed for STV Player.

One Saturday night and one for Monday at 7.30pm - Juventus v Chievo

Mad Max 22-01-2019 19:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djs9750 (Post 35980146)
The live games are not showing on the STV player tonight.

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Looks like they are only going to show games involving the Old Firm so they can whistle.
There's two teams in each game..........;)

Raider999 23-01-2019 18:29
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35980431)
There's two teams in each game..........;)
Not worth watching anything other than Rangers v Celtic anyway.

cheekyangus 23-01-2019 18:37
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35980518)
Not worth watching anything other than Rangers v Celtic anyway.
*Stir* *stir* :D

ozsat 26-01-2019 13:27
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
STV Player options this weekend are:
Sat 26th @ 7.30pm - AC Milan v Napoli
Sun 27th @ 7.45pm - Espanyol v Real Madrid

Does the STV Player on the V6 offer live games?

vincerooney 26-01-2019 17:30
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35980879)
STV Player options this weekend are:
Sat 26th @ 7.30pm - AC Milan v Napoli
Sun 27th @ 7.45pm - Espanyol v Real Madrid

Does the STV Player on the V6 offer live games?
How does this work? I'd assume you have to be in scotland? You lot get the eleven sport games free basically?

How handy

jfman 27-01-2019 09:04
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
It doesn’t work on the V6.

For other platforms like Roku or iOS you don’t have to live in Scotland to download the STV app. You may have to register an email address and input a postcode. If anyone is interested the postcode for Glasgow Central Station is G1 3SL. ;)

denphone 30-01-2019 09:07
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Premier Sports secure Serie A rights for UK & Ireland.

https://www.premiersports.com/footba...er-sports.html

Quote:
Italy’s Serie A has a new home as Premier Sports secures the rights until 2021

Premier Sports will show a minimum of 6 games per round starting this weekend

Eredivisie & Chinese Super League also to move to the UK sports broadcaster
Quote:
Premier Sports has announced they have secured the rights to Italy’s Serie A from February 2019 and will air a minimum of six games per round until the end of the 2020/21 season. Weekly highlights and preview shows are set to be broadcast by Premier Sports as well as a number of games live on sister free-to-air channel FreeSports. The rights were previously with Eleven Sports and a cooperative agreement has been made which means they will continue to broadcast this content non-exclusively in the UK until the 25th of February 2019 in order to minimise disruption for fans.

carravetta 30-01-2019 09:11
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Eleven Sports won't last beyond May, they never stood a chance with betting sites live streaming rights they had

My bet is La Liga ends back up at Sky

alwaysabear 30-01-2019 11:32
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35981215)
Eleven Sports won't last beyond May, they never stood a chance with betting sites live streaming rights they had

My bet is La Liga ends back up at Sky
Sooner rather than later, we should hear something. Eleven are doomed in the UK.

1andrew1 30-01-2019 11:51
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35981215)
Eleven Sports won't last beyond May, they never stood a chance with betting sites live streaming rights they had

My bet is La Liga ends back up at Sky
Quote:
Eleven Sports will continue showing La Liga coverage exclusively "until the end of the season, with the intention of continuing beyond".
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...tinue-13926367

Raider999 30-01-2019 12:51
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35981248)
I don't see how ditching serie A and Eriedivisie to concentrate on La Liga is going to increase subscriber numbers.

More likely to lose a fair proportion IMO.

Sounds like they have sold them off to fund continuing with La Liga to me.

As suggested, I seriously doubt they will be around in the UK past the end of the current season.

denphone 30-01-2019 12:59
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35981257)
I don't see how ditching serie A and Eriedivisie to concentrate on La Liga is going to increase subscriber numbers.
It ain't.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35981257)
More likely to lose a fair proportion IMO.
They can't have that many now given the chaos of the last few months.

---------- Post added at 12:58 ---------- Previous post was at 12:57 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35981257)

Sounds like they have sold them off to fund continuing with La Liga to me.
For how long..

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35981257)
As suggested, I seriously doubt they will be around in the UK past the end of the current season.
Correct.

telegramsam 30-01-2019 13:37
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Seeing what's going on would anyone sub to them now? This is a sinking ship and it's going down fast![COLOR="Silver"]

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vincerooney 30-01-2019 13:38
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Annoying little premier sports getting involved because sky and bt are being cheap. Damn them. Ah well at least we are closer to the death of eleven sports

Uncle Peter 30-01-2019 13:38
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35981264)
Seeing what's going on would anyone sub to them now? This is a sinking ship and it's going down fast!
Nah doubt it. They have to be done as an ongoing concern in the UK. They should have secured carriage arrangement or at the very least pushed out a smart tv app before they negotiated any rights.

The only way to get it on your tv is using Chromecast or Roku (unless something's changed over the past few weeks)

I've probably had my 50 quids worth though over the past few months so the 12 month sub wasn't a bad deal at the time.

1andrew1 30-01-2019 14:00
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35981257)
I don't see how ditching serie A and Eriedivisie to concentrate on La Liga is going to increase subscriber numbers.

More likely to lose a fair proportion IMO.

Sounds like they have sold them off to fund continuing with La Liga to me.

As suggested, I seriously doubt they will be around in the UK past the end of the current season.
To reduce its losses, Eleven needs to either increase sales or reduce costs. It's chosen the latter route.
I suspect that Eleven UK will see the season out and fade out quietly after that.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35981264)
Seeing what's going on would anyone sub to them now? This is a sinking ship and it's going down fast!
It seems to be a slow withdrawal, not sinking fast. If you remember Setanta GB ending, that was a better definition of what going down fast looks like!

telegramsam 30-01-2019 14:59
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35981274)
To reduce its losses, Eleven needs to either increase sales or reduce costs. It's chosen the latter route.
I suspect that Eleven UK will see the season out and fade out quietly after that.

---------- Post added at 14:00 ---------- Previous post was at 13:57 ----------


It seems to be a slow withdrawal, not sinking fast. If you remember Setanta GB ending, that was a better definition of what going down fast looks like!
Perhaps the word 'fast' was a little to much but nevertheless it is sinking!

Richc1977 31-01-2019 09:40
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
With Sky & BT ditching rights and Eleven sinking suddenly Premier/Freesports are looking like a half decent sports broadcaster.

In the last year they have added Pro14, Scottish Cups, Dutch and Italian football. Must be their strongest line up in ages.

Raider999 31-01-2019 14:34
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35981363)
With Sky & BT ditching rights and Eleven sinking suddenly Premier/Freesports are looking like a half decent sports broadcaster.

In the last year they have added Pro14, Scottish Cups, Dutch and Italian football. Must be their strongest line up in ages.
Still very little worth watching though!

figgyburn 31-01-2019 15:40
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
I dumped them after the free period showing the confederation cup pre season.Not enough football on at that time for me to subscribe to premier.I might have second thoughts now although, they are showing games on freesport and the stv player app so i might be satisfied with them.more interested in seria a than la liga so it might work out alright for me in the end without paying any extra.

Mad Max 31-01-2019 19:58
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35981414)
Still very little worth watching though!
In your opinion!

Raider999 01-02-2019 11:20
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35981464)
In your opinion!
True, but that is what the forum is for - people's opinion:)

denphone 01-02-2019 11:26
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
The Sky Sports Racing HD channel seems to be arriving some time this month according to the Virgin TV channel guide.

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...W5-fullhouse-B

SonicMaster 01-02-2019 12:10
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Deleted.

denphone 01-02-2019 12:28
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35981600)
Deleted.
Very strange that it was on the TV guide l received yesterday from Virgin and yet on the guide one downloads its not on there.

SonicMaster 01-02-2019 12:34
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35981606)
Very strange that it was on the TV guide l received yesterday from Virgin and yet on the guide one downloads its not on there.
On closer inspection, the downloads are still the January version, and the 'HD' bit has been added to the February version that appears as a graphic on their website.

ozsat 01-02-2019 14:08
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
This weekend's STV Player games are:

Fri 1st 8pm: SD Huesca v Real Valladolid
Sat 2nd 7.45pm: Celta Vigo v Sevilla

OLD BOY 03-02-2019 16:40
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35981272)
Annoying little premier sports getting involved because sky and bt are being cheap. Damn them. Ah well at least we are closer to the death of eleven sports
Not that annoying, Vince.

https://www.a516digital.com/2019/02/...-and.html#more

vincerooney 03-02-2019 19:53
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35981889)
ooh interesting. Do we know how many games will be on freesports per week?

Raider999 03-02-2019 22:45
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35981916)
ooh interesting. Do we know how many games will be on freesports per week?

You are likely to get re-runs of some of the games plus the odd live game - Atalanta v PALK coming up next weekend.

Easy enough to find - just plough through the EPG.

jfman 04-02-2019 10:08
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
There were two games live on Saturday. One being Juventus v Parma.

Must admit it feels a bit late 90s/early 00s to have to plough through an EPG to find out what’s on. ;)

telegramsam 04-02-2019 17:09
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35981952)
There were two games live on Saturday. One being Juventus v Parma.

Must admit it feels a bit late 90s/early 00s to have to plough through an EPG to find out what’s on. ;)
I watched about 30 minutes of this game but it was very poor. The commentary was poor too

Raider999 04-02-2019 19:00
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35981952)
There were two games live on Saturday. One being Juventus v Parma.

Must admit it feels a bit late 90s/early 00s to have to plough through an EPG to find out what’s on. ;)
I am sure there will be a website somewhere with the details you want, just as easy to scan through the EPG - not much of a problem as far as I can see.

cheekyangus 04-02-2019 19:08
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
You could just set a Wishlist but set it not to auto-record. I do this with multiple sports. I suppse given football is everywhere on the sport schedules it might not work as well, but it's work a try.

Gavin-D 12-02-2019 12:20
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Sky have got a new offer for new and existing customers where you can take Sky Entertainment & Fibre Max Guaranteed for 24 Months at £42 per month on a price lock

https://www.sky.com/shop/tvandbroadb...me-new-hero-tp

carravetta 12-02-2019 14:30
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Does anyone know if the Brazilian League rights have been picked up by anyone this year?

Previously on BT Sport

denphone 12-02-2019 15:48
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35983092)
Does anyone know if the Brazilian League rights have been picked up by anyone this year?

Previously on BT Sport
From what l can ascertain no one is picking up the Brazilian league rights in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_broadcasters

Raider999 12-02-2019 15:50
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35983094)
From what l can ascertain no one is picking up the Brazilian league rights in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_broadcasters

Don't tell OB, he will be getting his streaming mates on to it😱

carravetta 12-02-2019 16:14
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35983094)
From what l can ascertain no one is picking up the Brazilian league rights in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_broadcasters
Shame that as I have enjoyed South American Football on TV

The Brazilian League is much more exciting than the Chinese League imo and the strongest league outside Europe.

denphone 12-02-2019 16:16
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35983096)
Shame that as I have enjoyed South American Football on TV

The Brazilian League is much more exciting than the Chinese League imo and the strongest league outside Europe.
l don't disagree.

Uncle Peter 12-02-2019 20:46
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35983096)
Shame that as I have enjoyed South American Football on TV

The Brazilian League is much more exciting than the Chinese League imo and the strongest league outside Europe.
You could sign up for Bet365 if you can source the commentary from elsewhere.

If you fancy something different you can get Argentinian, Chilean, Colombian and Peruvian league games streamed via Fanatiz.tv: USD10 per month minus the Chilean league and USD17 with. It's a legit service based in Florida and is available to UK subscribers.

Chad 13-02-2019 16:42
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Eleven sports is now available on amazon fire tv. App launched last week apparently. I only noticed it was available last night when looking through the latest apps.

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Another announcement I've managed to miss. SKY agree broadcast deal with bellator.
http://www.bellator.com/articles/zql...uk-and-ireland

1andrew1 14-02-2019 01:03
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35983168)
Eleven sports is now available on amazon fire tv. App launched last week apparently. I only noticed it was available last night when looking through the latest apps.

---------- Post added at 16:42 ---------- Previous post was at 16:39 ----------

Another announcement I've managed to miss. SKY agree broadcast deal with bellator.
http://www.bellator.com/articles/zql...uk-and-ireland
I see that Bellator is owned by Viacom hence some fights are on Channel 5.

muppetman11 16-02-2019 16:23
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Beginning with the Masters Tournament in April, all four Majors live on Sky Sports in a spectacular 2019

https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...ectacular-2019

denphone 16-02-2019 16:25
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35983378)
Beginning with the Masters Tournament in April, all four Majors live on Sky Sports in a spectacular 2019

https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...ectacular-2019
So much for Sky losing their dominance of TV sport.;)

vincerooney 16-02-2019 16:56
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35983379)
So much for Sky losing their dominance of TV sport.;)
its excellent news. BT are withdrawing slowly from the sport scene due to costs which is a shame as i'd have preferred serie A to have returned to them.

Be interesting if eleven sports folds what happens to La Liga next year

Mad Max 16-02-2019 17:03
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35983379)
So much for Sky losing their dominance of TV sport.;)

They have done, they lost CL to BT, remember! That was a huge loss to Sky, and did more damage than gaining the Masters imo.

denphone 16-02-2019 17:13
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35983382)
They have done, they lost CL to BT, remember! That was a huge loss to Sky,
Was it a big loss? as l would say Sky has more then enough football even without the Champions league IMO.

---------- Post added at 17:13 ---------- Previous post was at 17:13 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35983381)
its excellent news. BT are withdrawing slowly from the sport scene due to costs which is a shame as i'd have preferred serie A to have returned to them.

Be interesting if eleven sports folds what happens to La Liga next year
Sky?.

muppetman11 16-02-2019 19:24
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35983382)
They have done, they lost CL to BT, remember! That was a huge loss to Sky, and did more damage than gaining the Masters imo.
I'm guessing you still subscribe to both Sky Sports and BT Sports ?

OLD BOY 16-02-2019 19:36
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35983379)
So much for Sky losing their dominance of TV sport.;)
Not yet, certainly, but it appears from what they have said that they are not prepared to throw increasing wads of money at sport, including football.

How that plays out, we will have to see. I couldn't possibly say any more about that! :D

Chad 16-02-2019 21:46
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Doesn't sky's contract with wwe expire this year? With wwe network now in full swing it'll be interesting to see what happens there


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